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Could the reason I haven’t made mum friends be my age?

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Dentalxray · 08/06/2026 09:42

Dd been at primary school for three years and in that time I’ve not made a single mum friend, they’ll only talk to me if I approach them first and then it’s just surface level stuff like the weather. Nothing to do with dds behaviour she’s a good girl and it’s been like this since reception. I do worry she might be missing out in the summer when the other mums meet up with the kids.
I had her at 16 so they’re all 10-20 years older than me, be honest would you want to be mum friends with someone that much younger than you? Or could it be something else?

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Nousernamesavaliable · 08/06/2026 20:48

Im sorry you feel this way, how ever im going to flip it on its head and say i feel the same but almost like im too old....i have the occasssional conversation re weather, school events etc... i try not to focus on it, i promote friendships, attend parties, etc. A friend has previously told me you find you people/friends once your child hits sports..unsure how true this is, weve yet to reach this, how ever....the school gates are certainly bitchy and judgemental without words iykyk

MrsKateColumbo · 08/06/2026 20:51

Tbh I would assume you would have better things to do than be friends with us 39 Yr old oldies, I remember thinking 30 was ancient 🤣🤣

I would volunteer in the pta/do class rep stuff to show that you are up for/interested in that sort of stuff. My friend had a DC when we were 14 and I think even though she was a mum she still had more in common with her school friends than the "proper grown ups"

CerseisWig · 08/06/2026 21:14

Have you asked on your Facebook local page if there's any mums who'd meet up? Is there a walking group?
Are you in contact with anyone from school?

iluvlucy · 08/06/2026 21:17

As the average age for first time mums in the UK is 29.4 years. Having a child at 16 puts you 14 years different to other mums..
It’s probably more to do with your life experience and lack of shared points of reference.
Round where I live (and no - not EVERYONES life trajectory is the same but pretty uniform here )

  1. Finish GCSES (16)
  2. Finish A’levels (18)
  3. Go to Uni or gap year travel (19)
  4. Graduate and do gap year (21/22)
  5. Get graduate Job + serious dating
  6. But house with partner (28/29)
  7. Get married (important protect self in time for baby and Mat Leave)
  8. Have baby (30-34)

If you had baby at 16 and did not have the same experiences it would be difficult to relate to each other However not impossible if you have picked up higher education post baby .. You have lived very different lives.
I would suggest joining child centred activities to see if there are people there who have had a similar life to you - or people who are open to meeting people who have a different life and see the difference in your pathways as different and not something to look down on.

I have a close friend who went the ‘standard route’ and is an architect with her own business consultancy and a 15 year old, (45) whose closest friend also had a baby at 16 but friend sees her bf as an awesome human who did all the HE and career building with baby attached .. there is an economic disparity but they negotiate that well. (She’s a 31 year old civil servant) .

WellyBellyBoo · 08/06/2026 21:24

I never made mum friends but was similar age to the other mums. I joined a running club and found friends that way instead. My kids had play dates etc but without a parent going along too. In my experience chatting to friends who are also parents, it's quite unusual to make new friends at the school gates.

mindutopia · 08/06/2026 21:31

I can’t honestly say I have any ‘mum friends’ as in friends I met at school. I’m 45 so certainly in the average demographic for primary school mums. Where I made friends (who happen to be mums at the school) is because they’re my neighbours, we organise lift shares to activities, we volunteer at the same school or village events, I’ve bumped into the at the annual fete, pub quiz, whatever. Basically, I met them in normal life and our kids happen to go the same school.

That said, I’d say none of that happened until probably Y4 and up when we had time to get involved in the community and organise parties and BBQs with neighbours. Surely, if you’ve lived there your whole life, you should know lots of people. We’ve only lived in this county for 4 years and moved from far away.

LorettaBobbins · 08/06/2026 21:33

In my antenatal group our ages range from 23 to 38. We are all friends. I don't think it's a given that it's your age.

PloddingAlong21 · 08/06/2026 21:42

Do you have WhatsApp and could message someone? Not awkward if they decline and lets them do so politely rather than face to face?

It could also be your age. I’m 39 and would assume I would be too old and boring for a 24(?) year old to want to socialise with me. I suspect many think like this. I also wonder if it’s also just different life stages? I think someone else said it earlier - caring for elderly parents, peri-menopause etc etc. you’ll be reminding them of 20 years ago so beyond children they perhaps wonder what you’ll have in common? All massive assumptions and could be wrong, just throwing some suggestions out there.

I wouldn’t worry about your flat though. After 3 years you need to invite someone over for a play date. Nobody will bat an eyelid at that! If they do, well - probably not worth befriending them anyway if they’re that shallow and materialistic!

worldshottestmom · 08/06/2026 21:43

This is so weird because I have been thinking this about myself lately and today a mum brought it up in the park. You sound a bit younger than me, but all the other mums at DCs nursery are at least mid 30s+. Im friendly with them and let on, my DC get invited to the parties etc but never any play dates or anything beyond that. I also wasn't keen on getting involved with them as some of them are quite cliquey.

There's the one mum there who I like though, she just has a really fun energy about her. We got chatting in the park today and she randomly said toward the end of the chat something like "I never like approaching the younger mums because I always thought you'd be too cool to hang out with us lot". I was shocked tbh and never suspected this would be the reason whatsoever. I'd also like to add, I am not cool at all lol. I also always get along better with older people, not sure why (probably because im so uncool).

Honestly, I wouldn't take it to heart. If you show interest in being friends with someone, and they make it obvious that they don't want to, then you have to just respect it - you cannot control their decisions/feelings etc. I'm sure you would find a wonderful group of friends elsewhere, though if you really want to get in with the other school mums, I would suggest becoming actively involved in the actual school (if you have the time) - PTA, extra curriculars, etc.

ReprogramNeeded · 08/06/2026 21:48

It could well be your age. When mine were at primary school, I think if there was a woman at the gates either much younger or much older there was also uncertainty over whether she was the child's mum or a nanny/gran/childminder etc.

If the other mums are 15-20 years older than you, they could well feel intimidated by you and you could be inadvertently triggering their insecurities - bear that in mind rather than assuming they are feeling confident and looking down on you! (Although some may well be doing that!)

If you keep trying different groups/activities, you may well meet a nanny who is more your age, or another younger mum. Would your health visitor maybe suggest some where she knows some younger mums?

Ultimately the best opportunities come through your children's friendships, so just keep letting your DD go to play dates and invite them back to yours - don't worry about the size of your flat. People worth caring about won't care.

PatsFishTank · 08/06/2026 21:53

All my Mum friends were made at toddler groups and other pre-school activities where there was a chance to get to know each other while the children played. I don't think the school gates is an easy place to meet people as it tends to be a quick in and out.

Maybe you need to try and get involved with kids' activities. I don't think anyone will care about your flat, anyone who's snobby enough to judge your living arrangements isn't worth being friends with.

CandyColouredEggshells · 08/06/2026 21:58

Dentalxray · 08/06/2026 10:13

I’ve lived in this town my entire life and dd went to a local nursery so it’s definitely not being a new face I’ve watched people new to the town and school who are in their 30s slot right in.

I don’t understand it either OP, but sometimes that’s the way it goes. I’ve lived in my town my whole life, I went to primary and secondary school with some of the mums I see on the gates (so we are about the same age) and aside from a smile and nod they don’t acknowledge me.

I have quite an alternative style so I wonder if it’s that, and they still see me as the bit of a weirdo.

I think a lot of “I’d think you wouldn’t want to be friends with a boring mature woman like me” are cop outs, because I’ve been in your shoes; on the sidelines at sports day or in a queue to collect after a disco and you feel excluded and like people are looking down their noses at you, not like you’re too “cool” to want to talk to them. I’ve made small talk with a mum at a birthday party to then be left stood on my own for the best part of an hour once some other mums turn up who they know.

I sometimes do also feel guilty that DD misses out, one of her friends was going out with her mum and some other mums and their kids at half term and she asked why we couldn’t go. I hadn’t been invited. It sucks. I’m hoping secondary school will be better as they do things more on their own.

Mummyslittlegiraffe · 08/06/2026 22:02

Another vote for micronised creatine. As long as that is the only ingredient you are fine with any brand. You can mix it with hot drinks as well, heat doesn’t degrade it. In fact it tends to mix better with a hot drink than cold (can be grainy), I often put it in yoghurt, overnight oats too. Consistency is the key with creatine, there is evidence for taking both before and after exercise, but just when you will remember is probably best for most people. It helps me recover quicker and therefore train smarter/harder. I got through a marathon training block this year without injury for example.
It is meant to help with cognitive function too, I’m menopausal so do get brain fog, difficult to say if it’s helped with that.

basoon · 08/06/2026 22:02

PandyMoanyMum · 08/06/2026 09:50

Oh I feel like this but I had my DD when I was 44 and I am a similar age now to a lot of the grandparents. My DD is now year 5, I speak to a few parents about play dates but have never made friendships with any of the mums. Having said that, I’ve been relieved to be on the sidelines as when kids fall out, the cliques splinter. As no one talks to me, I listen in on the gossip!

Also a 44 year old first time mum, didn't take make 'mum friends' but got in well with to have play dates or have someone collect from school once in a while if stuck at work. That was enough for me as I had plenty friends in my life already.

Booboobagins · 08/06/2026 22:21

@Dentalxray IME us older mums were picnics/park people, younger parents were more into high energy stuff. Not sure if that helps but is there a group your SC could join - swimming/dance class/judo etc where you might meet other younger mums?

ACynicalDad · 08/06/2026 22:24

My experience is that children tend to make friends with children from a similar background. Not exclusively, and it's no guarantee that they will become friends, but it's a decent indicator.

SonnyHoney · 08/06/2026 22:50

I had my son at 17.
I managed to make many friends at playgroups before he started primary school and they were all at least several years older than then when he started primary school, it was a bit of a struggle.

It was a Catholic primary school, and for some reason it was only the Polish, Hungarian, and African mums who would really give me the time of day. I'm pretty sure it was an age thing.

Franjipanl8r · 08/06/2026 22:55

School pick up and drop off chat is usually really superficial. I’ve found putting my name down to help at the Xmas fair or other PTA events makes space for better conversations.

And please don’t worry about the size of your house inviting people over for play dates. Absolutely no one worth being friends with cares about stuff like that.

BlueOrangeDreams · 08/06/2026 23:03

I'm 40 and I have no idea how you make mum friends at the school gate. I've had superficial chats with a few. Doesn't help my child isn't especially social.
I probably wouldn't think you would want to be friends - although if you invited me to the park and my child liked your child and I was free I probably would come. Although I am very busy with work - if I said I was busy it's probably that.

GoodLife26 · 09/06/2026 06:48

The school mum friends I have are nearly all people I met at baby group. I don’t think the school run lends itself to making friends because you’re there for such a short period of time. As others have suggested, invite one of your kids friends over for a play date. At such a young age the parent usually stays as well so you get to chat.
Don’t overthink it. You’ve got your own friends you don’t need to make lots of school mum friends.

Everythingisbacktodownandupsidefront · 09/06/2026 07:58

Your age is likely to have an impact but perhaps not in the way you think. I was really interested to read your responses to others to get more of a feeling of where you're coming from and these are my thoughts...

I'm in my mid-late 30s with a child about to start school in September. I already have established friends (dropped some, picked up some over the years) but ultimately I'm not at a point of trying to seek out friendships (and I expect many of the older Mums are in the same boat). I've found, having that laid back attitude seems to attract people more than when I was younger, like you, and wanting/trying to make friends. Someone mentioned, earlier, about a younger parent possibly wanting someone to lean/offload on, rather than be an equal friend with and I think there's perhaps some mileage in that. At my age, I'm definitely past that - life has finally levelled out and calmed down, and I'm ready for a peaceful, drama-free few years before we get into the realms of caring for our parents!

There's also the question as to would you be wanting to make friends with these Mums, if it wasn't for your children being at school together? As many people have said, having a child the same age isn't enough of a reason to become friends... Especially if those older women already have established friendships elsewhere and aren't on the lookout, as you are, for new buddies. I appreciate you've noticed some of the newer Mums being included ahead of you but I'm guessing that's because they would be friends regardless of the children.

I think your perspective sounds very immature. I don't mean that in a derogatory way - it is a simple reflection of your age (and that is no bad thing). You worry about the size of your house - I lived in a small house, then an average house and now a big house. I could not care less what size house someone else lives in. I think part of that comes from not being a dick and part of it comes from being at an age whereby my whole life is fully established and balanced, and I'm so content that there's no need to compare with others/be judgy (which is what those who are insecure and not content with their lives tend to do). What I would be concerned with is whether your home is reasonably clean and tidy.

That brings us on to parity - you have been to others' homes but never returned the invite. No one understands the reason for that but see it from the other side. At best, it looks as though you don't care, at worst it looks as though you're taking advantage of others' hospitality whilst not being prepared to be the host.

If someone I barely knew asked to meet up somewhere like the park or soft-play, I probably wouldn't go. It's more of a faff, potentially has cost implications (which I wouldn't object to with someone I know) and I'd feel was just generally a bigger commitment than going to someone's house. Those are also the sorts of things I'd prefer to do with my child alone. If that same person invited me and my little one for a playdate, I'd do my best to make that work (though my diary is currently ridiculous with plans made months ago with family and friends!).

Being honest, I wouldn't automatically feel drawn to a teen Mum. I got married, persued academia and a career. My husband and I waited until we were financially stable until we had a child (to the point that we may now be too old and/or unable to afford a second child). I would certainly question your life choices and how they jar with my own views of right and wrong. Life choices would also merge into questioning other choices, particularly around parenting styles, and whether your attitude to life is one I'd want being an influence on my child (which it would be if we were to become actual friends).

That said, I wouldn't treat you differently, if you were to approach me and be nice/fun/interesting/want to drink wine with me! I'd be interested to talk and find out who you were and, honestly, those thoughts/concerns in the paragraph above wouldn't feature. I just probably wouldn't be inclined to make the first move - for the reasons set out in all of the paragraphs above.

Interesting little anecdote from the other day... I was at a party and spoke to a woman who is known by most people where I live but whom I'd not spoken to until relatively recently. We had been interested in buying the same house - she bought it but we moved to a different house only a few doors down. She commented that she thought my husband was a bit snooty (he isn't) and that I'd only spoken to her since she had bought the house (making a comment implying that only now is she good enough to talk to). Whenever I've been out and she's been there, she's always been surrounded by a large group of friends and busy with them. She looks popular and fun, which is wonderful. I'm usually just out with my husband, enjoying a bit of couples time, and will chat to people we bump into, especially if we already know them. I have never swerved her. She's just one of many people who live here who I hadn't met, organically, until recently, and, at which point, she and I had a mutual topic of conversation to go at. I did put it to her that, just as she thought we should have spoken to her at some point previously, she also could have approached us to speak to us but never did. The important difference is, I thought nothing of her having not approached us but she judged us for having not approached her.

vickylou78 · 09/06/2026 08:38

My daughter is in year 3 at school and I'm 48 and if I'm honest at about 23 years older than you, I'd probably assume that you wouldn't want to be friends with me and that we wouldn't have much in common socially. I'd be friendly with you and chat to you but I probably wouldn't invite you out for drinks or anything as I'd assume you'd find me and my lifestyle pretty old and boring! I'd assume you had younger friends.

Heretodayonly · 09/06/2026 09:12

I'm actually surprised by some of these responses. I'm in my forties and I do a hobby where the other participants range from 20 to in their 70s. I get on with those both ends of that spectrum. My best friend at a job a long term ago was approaching retirement and I was mid 20's. I wish other people would look past age and just get to know people as individuals.

I really hate the idea that because someone chose (or ended up with) a different life path, your values with clash and they're not someone to be friends with, as suggested above. Yes I had a very traditional life path, career ,marriage then children in my 30s, but that doesn't make me better than a teen mum. I have a family member who was young (though not quite a teen) having her kids. By the time she was my age her careers back on track and she has adult kids. Whereas I'm still trying to work out how to resurrect my career or dealing with nappies. Perhaps in hindsight her life plan was more sensible?

Having a baby at 16 isn't great, but what matters is what you do afterwards.

I think what might be holding back friendships for the OP is her being self conscious. She needs to return playdates and properly get stuck in with school stuff if she wants friendships that go beyond 'just another mum'. Being young might be affecting her confidence, which in turn is reinforcing the issue.

pragmatismuniversalsentimentalist · 09/06/2026 10:44

Dentalxray · 08/06/2026 11:53

She’s been to a few, they all live in actual houses and we live in a one bedroom flat. I’m a little wary about having people over but I know I need to get over that.

I’m not sure that it’s because they don’t have time to go to the park or beach I’ve bumped into them accidentally in the past at the beach with each other.

If shes been to a few and you've never invited anyone back they probably think you are a bit rude im afraid.
And her friends probably feel a bit sad never to be invited around to play.
You need to put your own insecurities aside here. If you are really determined for her friends not to see DD's home can you offer to take DD and a friend out swimmimg or something, offer to collect the friend from school with your DD and take them both swimming and drop them home after perhaps?

pragmatismuniversalsentimentalist · 09/06/2026 10:45

Heretodayonly · 09/06/2026 09:12

I'm actually surprised by some of these responses. I'm in my forties and I do a hobby where the other participants range from 20 to in their 70s. I get on with those both ends of that spectrum. My best friend at a job a long term ago was approaching retirement and I was mid 20's. I wish other people would look past age and just get to know people as individuals.

I really hate the idea that because someone chose (or ended up with) a different life path, your values with clash and they're not someone to be friends with, as suggested above. Yes I had a very traditional life path, career ,marriage then children in my 30s, but that doesn't make me better than a teen mum. I have a family member who was young (though not quite a teen) having her kids. By the time she was my age her careers back on track and she has adult kids. Whereas I'm still trying to work out how to resurrect my career or dealing with nappies. Perhaps in hindsight her life plan was more sensible?

Having a baby at 16 isn't great, but what matters is what you do afterwards.

I think what might be holding back friendships for the OP is her being self conscious. She needs to return playdates and properly get stuck in with school stuff if she wants friendships that go beyond 'just another mum'. Being young might be affecting her confidence, which in turn is reinforcing the issue.

Its nothing to do with being 'better' than a teen mum its about having few shared /common experiences.

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