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Elderly gentleman refused my help getting off the train

274 replies

givemeareasonto · 06/06/2026 09:29

I’m getting the train to visit a friend today. On my first train there was an elderly man who had a suitcase and another bag with him, as well as a walking stick. He had assistance to get on the train.

I was getting off at the same stop as him and he was looking around a bit aimlessly, obviously looking for help. I asked if he needed a hand to get his things off the train and he scoffed and said “he wouldn’t take help from a woman”.

I left him to it, but to be honest it’s left a really sour taste in my mouth. AIBU to think this was a really dick-ish thing to say? I wanted to snap back at him and say if he didn’t want help from a woman, he shouldn’t be travelling with more than he can cope with, but I didn’t.

OP posts:
JudgeJ · 07/06/2026 22:50

Helpwithdivorce · 06/06/2026 09:53

Twattish man

Twattish post.

AndreaMarvell · 07/06/2026 22:52

ScartlettSole · 07/06/2026 18:22

I can't imagine getting this worked up over someone not wanting my help

This isn't helpful in the least. It's a pointless reply.

It looks like the OP wanted to discuss what happened, rather than getting "worked up" as you put it. What's the point of a forum if you can't discuss things on it without being dismissed!

BlackRowan · 07/06/2026 23:07

I would have said o F U then and walked off
or at least I’d like to think I would!

BlackRowan · 07/06/2026 23:07

ArtfulPinkBird · 06/06/2026 09:30

My take is he probably didn't want to ask a woman to help out of chivalry, rather than anything else, given he was of a certain age....that would have been how I'd have interpreted it anyway.

lol

eastegg · 07/06/2026 23:36

DierdreDaphne · 06/06/2026 10:14

My mother is in her 90s. She knows what sexism is. And I think we all know fine well it's alive and thriving (see the Makerfield candidate for Reform etc).

I don't buy this "different world" nonsense. Im nearly 70.so I grew up in a "different world" too. But having been part of society all my life I have not carried the prevailing beliefs from the 1960s with me without a.fair bit of up dating.

You old man (scarcely 'gentlemanly'!) has chosen to remain sexist because it suits him IMO.

Yes this is my take too. Also it’s one thing to have the beliefs, but he didn’t need to convey them so rudely and scathingly.

PashaMinaMio · 07/06/2026 23:39

ArtfulPinkBird · 06/06/2026 09:30

My take is he probably didn't want to ask a woman to help out of chivalry, rather than anything else, given he was of a certain age....that would have been how I'd have interpreted it anyway.

Yes he’s probs too proud to think of help from a woman & didn’t mean to offend you.
It might be a “generational “ thing.

superchick · 07/06/2026 23:42

Its a non-event. People are sometimes rude and sometimes exist. Just forget him and move on with your day.

SemiRetiredLoveGoddeess · 07/06/2026 23:47

A lot of men if that age behave like that
Yes, l know they were used to looking after women back in the day. Whatever that meant

But some of them had no manners even then. Laid down the law and were very superior and controlling. I had lots of older male relatives like that.

Then came the Sixties and Womens Lib and fight for equality.

It can take a long time to change things.

ReflectingPool · 08/06/2026 00:02

I’d have laughed in his face

I've noticed people say this a lot on here. But would you though? You'd look like a lunatic.

ReflectingPool · 08/06/2026 00:06

He had assistance getting on the train... I wonder what he would have done if the train assistance person had turned up and was female...

I wonder if, when he was "looking around aimlessly", he was just looking for the assistance person who was going to help him off.

Dorisbonson · 08/06/2026 00:26

givemeareasonto · 06/06/2026 09:38

Good for him.

It’s not the world he grew up in and sexism isn’t acceptable now.

It's sexist these days to refuse help from someone?

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 08/06/2026 00:32

This is a really difficult one. There comes a time when you need help because you are getting on a bit but don’t want to accept help because it confirms that you are getting on a bit. He was wrong to be impolite but he did it because he felt uncomfortable.

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 08/06/2026 00:35

No she didn’t want to discuss it. She wanted people to tell her he was a twat. Well, not everyone thinks he was.

Renamedefault · 08/06/2026 00:44

If he’s waiting for a member of rail staff to help him he’s probably still on there.

askmenow · 08/06/2026 02:42

givemeareasonto · 06/06/2026 09:38

Good for him.

It’s not the world he grew up in and sexism isn’t acceptable now.

Whatever happened to his "lived experience" is different to your "lived experience" as the woke ideologues would have us believe!

Grow the fuck up, it isn't about you. He may well have been confused, unwell or whatever. Make allowances.

RareJoker · 08/06/2026 06:20

Dorisbonson · 08/06/2026 00:26

It's sexist these days to refuse help from someone?

Did you read the OP? He didn’t just refuse help. He said he didn’t want help “from a woman”.

ScartlettSole · 08/06/2026 06:27

AndreaMarvell · 07/06/2026 22:52

This isn't helpful in the least. It's a pointless reply.

It looks like the OP wanted to discuss what happened, rather than getting "worked up" as you put it. What's the point of a forum if you can't discuss things on it without being dismissed!

She has dismissed quite a few offers of explanations/discussion

Deboragh · 08/06/2026 09:48

CrazyWeather · 06/06/2026 09:42

Ok keep not even trying to understand. You clearly just want a ridiculous argument.

If he was old the chances are he's in his 60/70s. My husband is in his 70s. If it was 'how he grew up' he's had a good 40 years to get used to it, so that argument is bullshit. He was a rude old twat, end of.

Snakebite61 · 08/06/2026 10:28

givemeareasonto · 06/06/2026 09:29

I’m getting the train to visit a friend today. On my first train there was an elderly man who had a suitcase and another bag with him, as well as a walking stick. He had assistance to get on the train.

I was getting off at the same stop as him and he was looking around a bit aimlessly, obviously looking for help. I asked if he needed a hand to get his things off the train and he scoffed and said “he wouldn’t take help from a woman”.

I left him to it, but to be honest it’s left a really sour taste in my mouth. AIBU to think this was a really dick-ish thing to say? I wanted to snap back at him and say if he didn’t want help from a woman, he shouldn’t be travelling with more than he can cope with, but I didn’t.

Must be a reform voter.

Markovenchip · 08/06/2026 18:13

Tabarnak · 06/06/2026 11:04

So because one person, potentially with a different first language, said no, you refuse to help anyone ever again?

I live in London and frequently, like thousands of other Londoners, help people up and down tube steps with buggies and bags. But I do wonder whether some visitors feel worried because the Social Media Right wing loons and bots portray London as a place where you are likely to get stabbed and robbed every time you venture out in public - so trusting your possessions to a stranger might well seem too much of a risk.

Now at the age of 65 it's difficult enough with my own bag !..... I don't travel much now so it's unlikely to happen again

RareJoker · 08/06/2026 19:37

Snakebite61 · 08/06/2026 10:28

Must be a reform voter.

🙄

Walkingonairdays · 08/06/2026 23:05

Markovenchip · 08/06/2026 18:13

Now at the age of 65 it's difficult enough with my own bag !..... I don't travel much now so it's unlikely to happen again

My 64 year old sister has recently trained for a charity 10k run & I imagine she wouldn't take kindly to being offered help with her bag while leaving the train. I am in the same age group, generally fit & would happily accept help if it was a huge heavy case. We are all different.

NEGUY82 · 09/06/2026 11:56

AsparagusSeason · 06/06/2026 10:02

Are you always so awful?

From her username I'm guessing she's a bitter man hater.

Tuesdayschild50 · 09/06/2026 12:44

Give the horrible grumpy old sod no more thought .. at least you're kind he has probably been a dick all his life.
Forget him & move on .

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