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To have expected him to have said something?

321 replies

poorlytoe · Yesterday 13:21

We had a date night planned as we both thought we needed to spend some quality time together so we bought some wine, agreed on a nice meal to have just us once the little ones had gone to bed which is 7:00.

Anyway about 6:50 just as I was upstairs getting the children ready for bed and looking forward to the evening we had planned, step son turned up baring in mind he is in his 20s and lives a 10 minute walk away, I assumed he wouldn’t stay long as Dh would probably say we had already made plans this evening but Dh said nothing while our plans went down the pan and stepson sat there until 10:15 before going home and all Dh could say was it wasn’t his fault as he didn’t know he was going to turn up.
AIBU to have thought he would have said something as we had plans?
I hadn’t bought enough ingredients for a date night for 3 so I didn’t end up cooking the salmon but Dh did open the wine and pour it 3 ways.

OP posts:
Anarchy99 · Yesterday 17:41

Didimum · Yesterday 17:40

Posters are being SUPER unreasonable claiming that this wasn't a date night or 'plans' just because it was dinner at home. An evening planned like this is really important for couple who otherwise struggle to spend time together.

Not everyone can afford to drop £40-60 on a babysitter and then another £80-100 on a meal out. It's perfectly acceptable to have home dates and the time should be protected in the same way.

Yes, OP, I understand why you're upset with him. I would have been too.

But if their kids go to bed generally at 7.00 are they really not spending time together? Do they work different shifts or something? Because surely the best part of the evening and all night is plenty of time!

Doorbanging · Yesterday 17:43

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Firesidechatter · Yesterday 17:49

poorlytoe · Yesterday 16:29

Well I see I’m being unreasonable but Dh was just as annoyed as me.
I emphasise the wine aspect again for me as an exhausted mum it’s easy to get into the rut of just being parents navigating work, school and house chores so the chance to kick back have a few too many wines was something I was looking forward to.
The salmon wasn’t meant to be luxurious but the little ones hate salmon so we rarely buy it so thinking it was just for us I only bought 2 fillets which with the best will in the world is not going to feed 3 adults.
I do have a good relationship with SS and I have always supported him but I was disappointed.
Before anyone screams alcohol problem, absolutely not but I was looking forward to letting my hair down a bit as I’ve said we don’t go out because we have young children and SS wouldn’t ever want to babysit because he doesn’t want to, he’s just not that committed to promising to give an evening up when something might come up and that’s fine.
I don’t see anything wrong with setting aside time for each other which was Dh idea that we needed to chill with a drink and have us time.

You still had your wine, instead I’d a half a bottle you had a third. The difference is 17 percent, less than a glass from your share.

can’t you buy another one? How you be so upset in giving him a small glass.

edit to add I really hope your partner wasn’t as disappointed as you. Because you won’t feel like this when it’s your own. Dad of the year right there if he was

UniquePinkSwan · Yesterday 17:50

coulditbeme2323 · Yesterday 17:33

Ask your kids when they are older if they wished Mum and Dad stayed together.

I used to pray for my parents to get divorced because they argued so much

Didimum · Yesterday 17:53

coulditbeme2323 · Yesterday 14:10

It was a normal night, there was a bit of salmon in the fridge!

I assume you're someone who can drop up to £100+ on babysitters and eating out. Not everyone can.

Do you often like to minimise how people afford to spend their quality time together?

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · Yesterday 17:53

UniquePinkSwan · Yesterday 17:50

I used to pray for my parents to get divorced because they argued so much

My dad always says he wished his mum could have left his dad, but it wasn't the done thing in those days. He only has good memories from his childhood of him and his mum, and he remembers her being sad and overshadowed when his dad was around.

No one should have to feel like that.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · Yesterday 17:57

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 17:41

But if their kids go to bed generally at 7.00 are they really not spending time together? Do they work different shifts or something? Because surely the best part of the evening and all night is plenty of time!

I have friends who spend all evening doing housework, because they work full time, or a second job because they can't afford not to. And friends who work shifts. DH used to when we were first married. We now have to get up really early, because of our work schedules, so we've often not got very much of an evening.

So if there's an evening set aside to spend quality time together, whatever the plans, it's disappointing if it doesn't pan out. Because it's taken effort to make sure that time is there.

WeatherOrNothing · Yesterday 18:01

idkbroidk · Yesterday 14:33

are you guys on crack, how is everyone justifying what the son did??? OP is 10000% in the right and DP should have told SS that they had a pre-organised date night and he should come back another time!!! also the fact that he split the wine 3 ways would have my blood boiling

It’s because she’s a Step mum. Always the villain

WallaceinAnderland · Yesterday 18:07

I think if neither of you said anything, it tends to indicate that neither of you were that bothered tbh.

Jenpen31 · Yesterday 18:11

coulditbeme2323 · Yesterday 13:40

I wonder if it had been your own child that turned up if you would have turfed them out?

Blended families don't work, they have never worked, and they will never work.

Couldnt agree more! They NEVER work.

Goditsmemargaret · Yesterday 18:14

It's tricky. I can see why you were disappointed but i don't think your DH could have done much. I really would not ask an adult child to leave in those circumstances.

Trenchmark · Yesterday 18:15

Didimum · Yesterday 17:53

I assume you're someone who can drop up to £100+ on babysitters and eating out. Not everyone can.

Do you often like to minimise how people afford to spend their quality time together?

Edited

That poster did a thread about popping to London and paying £19 for one slice of cheesecake. I imagine they are not short of a bob or two.

Trenchmark · Yesterday 18:16

Jenpen31 · Yesterday 18:11

Couldnt agree more! They NEVER work.

I have no personal experience. But I have seen some families where it does really seem to work. How can you say ‘NEVER’? Seriously.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · Yesterday 18:18

Trenchmark · Yesterday 18:15

That poster did a thread about popping to London and paying £19 for one slice of cheesecake. I imagine they are not short of a bob or two.

Wow...🤣

Talk about out of touch.

Trenchmark · Yesterday 18:21

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 17:41

But if their kids go to bed generally at 7.00 are they really not spending time together? Do they work different shifts or something? Because surely the best part of the evening and all night is plenty of time!

I can imagine there is something special about saying,’ tonight we are not going to do admin, talk about jobs or do chores. Let’s just relax, have some nice non-kid-friendly food, and watch some crap TV together’. Yes it’s not glam or flashy, but it’s about dedicating some time to relaxing as a couple. I don’t see why people here are diminishing it.

There is something quite tacky and embarrassing about people thinking it doesn’t count as a date night because it’s ‘just’ salmon at home.

Dumbledore167 · Yesterday 18:22

How come you couldn’t just do the date night the next again night OP?

mcmuffin22 · Yesterday 18:24

Jenpen31 · Yesterday 18:11

Couldnt agree more! They NEVER work.

Have you met all of the blended families in the world? That must have been an effort.

bittertwisted · Yesterday 18:34

coulditbeme2323 · Yesterday 14:59

Children (even adult ones) have been through the trauma of their parents divorce, so lets not start throwing them out because there is a bit of manky old salmon in the fridge.

My children were made up when we divorced. We were awful together and they hated it. I wish my parents had divorced, living with constant fear of arguments and simmering discontent, witnessing 2 people who have no love for each other

BoredZelda · Yesterday 18:37

poorlytoe · Yesterday 13:45

I don’t consider where my parents live to be my home. I don’t live there.

That’s sad. My parents’ home is my home too.

bittertwisted · Yesterday 18:39

UniquePinkSwan · Yesterday 17:50

I used to pray for my parents to get divorced because they argued so much

Me too
i used to blame myself and do all sorts of anxiety rituals in the hope they would be happy
it caused me all sorts of issues in adulthood, including staying with my husband far too long.
my children used to beg me to leave, and now I have taught them to have healthy relationships, to have self worth and boundaries, that love matters

people have no idea with their patronising ‘trauma of divorce’ judgement

icannotlivelaughloveintheseconditions · Yesterday 18:41

Buy another bottle of wine and do it tonight?

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 18:48

Trenchmark · Yesterday 18:21

I can imagine there is something special about saying,’ tonight we are not going to do admin, talk about jobs or do chores. Let’s just relax, have some nice non-kid-friendly food, and watch some crap TV together’. Yes it’s not glam or flashy, but it’s about dedicating some time to relaxing as a couple. I don’t see why people here are diminishing it.

There is something quite tacky and embarrassing about people thinking it doesn’t count as a date night because it’s ‘just’ salmon at home.

Unless it’s a special date then presumably it can be rescheduled?

Since you are choosing to accuse people of being tacky, can you explain why you would use that word? Because some people would think date nights to be tacky and embarrassing. Not me - I don’t care

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · Yesterday 18:50

BoredZelda · Yesterday 18:37

That’s sad. My parents’ home is my home too.

My parents home is my childhood home. And I know I'm welcome there and could live there if I needed to. But it not my home anymore. I've built my own.

Cantspeakwontspeak · Yesterday 19:16

coulditbeme2323 · Yesterday 13:40

I wonder if it had been your own child that turned up if you would have turfed them out?

Blended families don't work, they have never worked, and they will never work.

I really disagree with this - I have my own dc (young) as well as dsc’s in their late 20’s. This kind of thing happens to us all the time and I am really happy they want to spend time with us

Cantspeakwontspeak · Yesterday 19:18

Oh and in terms of ‘asking kids’ both sets of dc’s ar extremely happy with their set up and believe me they would all say otherwise if they wanted to