To be totally APPALLED by how Robinson referred to Henry Nowak in his “speech” in Southampton on Tuesday?

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I’ve just seen a clip of this in a Guardian article on the main agitators in Southampton on Tuesday.
TR refers to Henry Nowak in this way: “White privilege?! Does Henry swear word beginning with F Nowak look as if he had white privilege when he was lying on the floor?”
He then smirks as he looks down, clearly proud of himself for delivering such an eloquent speech [sarcasm].
I’m beyond disgusted by how the name of this beautiful young man, who has lost his life in the most brutal way, was used in such a disrespectful way in order to rouse a rabble and boost TR’s ego.
AIBU to say that over the last two days TR, NF and their ilk are really showing us who they are and what motivates them?

I'm not a fan of Mr Robinsons or his turn of phrase, but in the grand scheme of Henrys murder and the appalling policing involved i'm saving "TOTALLY APPALLED " for Henrys repulsive murderer and the disgusting policing involved.
Words seem unimportant when weighed against what happened to Henry at the hands of his murder and the police,just my opinion.

Thats true about the way he died

The horrible fact is also that even if they had got him medical attention straight away, he would have died, a medic in the case confirmed he would not have survived the stabbing no matter what treatment he had.

The police actions didnt cause him to die but they caused him to die in an incredibly undignified, frightening, painful manner that might have been avoided he medical care had been forthcoming. I dont know if that is true though.

I haven’t said I haven’t done this. What did I say that led you to infer this?

Lets see your emails with time stamps to the police, governing bodies, local MP and anyone who’ll listen!! Do share!

So I assume that you are against the racial profiling and injustice of black and brown people, which is a much bigger problem in this country?

I wonder if you were just as vocal about racial injustice on these threads when highlighting the issues that involve non-white people.

Of course a human life is more significant than any words around it. But my OP is about a very significant aspect of the subsequent protests in Southampton on Tuesday, in which context words are very important indeed.

Who is "we"?
Some of us are perfectly capable of holding more than one thought at a time

OP's question is very relevant

Please can you answer my question: how did you infer that?

This post makes you look deranged btw.

This.

I found it worrying listening to some of the police spoke people and politicians on radio 4 it was all it's tragic but everythings fine nothing to see here.

I follow the FWR boards and know GC people - more usually women - have been treated very differently from others.

The desperate need to shut up the people speaking out in out in Rochdale because race was inconvenient - served no-one well in the end.

Do the guidleines need adjusting is training needed who knows but I'd like someone independent to look and have a think how things could be improved. I know the met force has a huge issue with how it treates ethic minorities, women and diabled people but that doens't mean another force may have another bias.

People with different political beliefs can still have sound points occaionally and while the left likes to try and claim moral high ground can be as blinkered and wrong as those of the right sometimes.

They are total cunts for seeking divisive political capital from a young man’s murder.

Let’s see yours?

Why? I’m not the one getting my knickers in a twist about the words said by a pissed off man!

And you are playing right into their hands by being pissed off about it.

Yes, and? It wasn't said referencing Henry in a derogatory or insulting way, it was to emphasise his point/speech/words.

For the record I think TR should have respected Henry's parents wishes. But I also cant help but wonder if Id also say the same just because its expected. I also wouldnt be surprised if they were asked to say what they did tbh.

He seemed more coked up than pissed off tbf.

Why do you care? All of this attention on an angry ‘cokes’ up man completely detracts from the actual problem itself. Just ignore them and focus on the problem at hand.

Tommy Robinson saying something appalling is hardly breaking news.

It's pretty on brand.

He's vile.

Most people capable of being concerned about more than one thing at a time. Robinson is a vile shit stirrer and dangerous and someone to be concerned about. YMMV.

If it was my 18 year old son, murdered I. The same way and in the same circumstance as Henry Nowak then it would be me making a similar speech. I wouldn’t need Tommy Robinson to do it for me. But, no, I wouldn’t find it unacceptable.

Because you’ve asked OP to do so, in a manner implying this is something to be expected.

When I grew up, generally people didn’t swear, or there was the occasional bugger or bloody spoken.

These days, fuck/fucking have become everyday words for many people. At one time I would have been shocked to hear those words but those days are long gone.

The OP should perhaps consider that when clutching her pearls at the language used.

Like the vast majority of posters I believe this word used, pales into insignificance compared with what has actually happened.

Nobody “needs” TR to speak for them, he does it completely unnecessarily.

They were filming Henry, you know. He climbed over a fence and managed to land on a parked car, all after being stabbed. That monster was taunting him, taking the piss.
The Police arrive and the relief he must have felt. All to be handcuffed, his condition ignored, and likely worsened.
For the Police to taunt him as well. It's horrifying. And all because of the racism accusation.
Like the Manchester Arena bombing, when they didn't want to racially profile, so they let him blow a load of kids up. Or the Rudakabuna case. They didn't want to brand him a black boy with a knife, so he slaughtered those poor angels. Or Nottingham, when locking up another black boy would reflect poorly in statistics, so he was allowed the murder three innocent souls. Or the Muslim rape gang. That was allowed to continue, because we wouldn't want to stir up community tensions. Should I keep going...?
I imagine Henry's love ones are more upset about that to be honest
But yeah, Tommy swearing is the real fucking issue here

The thing is, the word fucking has probably not even hit Henrys families radar. What will haunt them for the rest of their days is exactly how their son died. Yes the police didn't kill him but when Henry was begging them for help, they not only let him down but treated him like an animal. It's not about whether the police could have saved his life. It seems pretty clear from all I've read that they couldn't. It's the way they treated him as he lay dying. They were told his mouth was full of blood before they arrested him, how did they think that happened? There were multiple police there and judging by the photos of Henry, he wasn't a big guy, he wasn't being aggressive in any way. He didn't need to be restrained.

The fact the family have had to watch that video. I can't even begin to imagine the horror and the trauma inflicted on them. It broke my heart and I didn't know Henry. To those that loved him, well I just don't even have the words for how traumatic that must have been.

I don't want any violence to come from this but I do want action. I'm sick of the term "dog whistle" being thrown around to shut people up. I wish we had better people demanding answers but answers do need to be demanded.

Hush now with your examples, Marjorie on Mumsnet says 2 tier policing isnt a thing, so it must be true.