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To be totally APPALLED by how Robinson referred to Henry Nowak in his “speech” in Southampton on Tuesday?

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Whereismyjoiedevivre · 04/06/2026 09:22

I’ve just seen a clip of this in a Guardian article on the main agitators in Southampton on Tuesday.
TR refers to Henry Nowak in this way: “White privilege?! Does Henry swear word beginning with F Nowak look as if he had white privilege when he was lying on the floor?”
He then smirks as he looks down, clearly proud of himself for delivering such an eloquent speech [sarcasm].
I’m beyond disgusted by how the name of this beautiful young man, who has lost his life in the most brutal way, was used in such a disrespectful way in order to rouse a rabble and boost TR’s ego.
AIBU to say that over the last two days TR, NF and their ilk are really showing us who they are and what motivates them?

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LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 12:35

5128gap · 04/06/2026 12:33

No thank you. I have no wish to read the inarticulate ramblings of a bunch of right wing ranters, and theres far too many of you on here to have to step over. The OP asked a question and I'm interested only in the answers to that.

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darksideofthetoon · 04/06/2026 12:37

No fan of Robinson or Farage but at least on this they don’t have a giant brush and carpet like most of our toothless politicians.

We all know things are out of control and yet they’re fannying about rearranging the deck chairs.

PenelopePinkerton · 04/06/2026 12:37

5128gap · 04/06/2026 12:33

No thank you. I have no wish to read the inarticulate ramblings of a bunch of right wing ranters, and theres far too many of you on here to have to step over. The OP asked a question and I'm interested only in the answers to that.

And you are part of the problem. I’m left of centre but need to hear the opinions of those who are further right than me.

RaininSummer · 04/06/2026 12:38

It does sound very disrespectful to Henry putting F word in the middle of his name like that. If they needed to swear then why not say , 'white f. Ing privilege'? Either way they sound quite thick and loutish.

KeepPumping · 04/06/2026 12:41

EstoyRobandoSuCasa · 04/06/2026 12:29

I notice that you haven’t actually answered my question.

No one has said that white people can’t “speak up for” other white people. That’s a complete straw man.

Mark Nowak has called for an “full, fearless and transparent investigation” and for the government to invest in knife crime prevention. He also said that he didn’t want his son’s death “to be used to create further division, hatred or tension”.

Do you think a violent riot in Southampton is what Henry’s family wanted or that it will get them the answers they deserve? Or that it will lead to a review of police DEI policies and ensure that if changes are needed that these will be made and rolled out to all staff? I think the riot was nothing but a hindrance. The police already knew that they messed up and that people are horrified by their treatment of Henry.

You can"t control how the public act in these situations, they are going to do what they are going to do, they don"t need a green light from NF, as if he is their puppet master controlling them, KS knows this, he is just hijacking the family statement to further his agenda of shutting down the conversation (although privately he is probably glad the spotlight has shifted away from his catastrophic leadership) KS is making the situation more dangerous by shutting off debate, he has the power to make things less dangerous by having the necessary conversation about woke training/brainwashing in the police and other areas, of course this would be like a turkey voting for Christmas and will never happen, they just need to be removed from power via the ballot box so the country can breathe again.

secretllama · 04/06/2026 12:41

PenelopePinkerton · 04/06/2026 12:37

And you are part of the problem. I’m left of centre but need to hear the opinions of those who are further right than me.

Exactly.... People being called jobless and inarticulate on this thread when they have different opinions, so mature.

LevisForMe · 04/06/2026 12:42

NEGUY82 · 04/06/2026 12:29

"Mohammed" (I can't imagine why he hides that bit) Zia Yusif isn't a Reform voter - well be probably does but you know what I mean.

No, Farage & Yusif etc definitely aren't thick, I wish they were - when Farage used the term "cold rage" - it was smart of him, he knew most of his supporters wouldn't know what that means and just hear "rage" and go rioting, when confronted about inciting a riot he can say "I said cold rage, it's not fault they misinterpreted". When people call Farage thick they're being disingenuous, he definitely isn't - those that aren't millionaires that support him though.....

"Mohammed"

That's quite rude.

You are fundamentally misunderstanding how these naming customs work. In many British Muslim families, Muhammad is given on the birth certificate as an honorary prefix out of respect but the child goes by their middle name in daily life. Ziauddin (shortened to Zia) is his actual given name.

Accusing him of hiding his first name when he is just using his everyday name is dog whistling. His full name is also completely public on Wikipedia and Companies House, so nothing is being concealed.

KeepPumping · 04/06/2026 12:44

darksideofthetoon · 04/06/2026 12:37

No fan of Robinson or Farage but at least on this they don’t have a giant brush and carpet like most of our toothless politicians.

We all know things are out of control and yet they’re fannying about rearranging the deck chairs.

Not really managing the deck chairs, more like deliberately locking away the deckchairs so that their agendas can"t be examined in the pure cold light.

ChunkyMonkey36 · 04/06/2026 12:45

Seems to me that some people really do want the best of both worlds.

They want racial profiling, but only if it helps convince everyone that brown people are more dangerous.

They want forceful policing, but also to be able to throw burning bins at them.

They want freedom of speech, but only if that doesn’t involve calling TR names.

They want everyone to have an opinion, but only if it agrees with theirs.

Seems what they actually want is to be able to do as they please, and that’s not how the world works.

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 12:45

secretllama · 04/06/2026 12:41

Exactly.... People being called jobless and inarticulate on this thread when they have different opinions, so mature.

That poster has done the left's cause no favours. Straight out of a 6th form bully girl pack.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 04/06/2026 12:46

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 12:27

Your point?

He’s a blatant opportunist grifter.

Sorry you need it spelt out in words of one syllable.

ChunkyMonkey36 · 04/06/2026 12:47

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 04/06/2026 12:46

He’s a blatant opportunist grifter.

Sorry you need it spelt out in words of one syllable.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

FabiaQuintilla · 04/06/2026 12:47

PenelopePinkerton · 04/06/2026 12:37

And you are part of the problem. I’m left of centre but need to hear the opinions of those who are further right than me.

I can’t speak for the poster you’re replying to, but many of the names on this thread can be safely skipped over because they repeat the same points on multiple threads. Nothing new is being said by this point and we aren’t going to change each other’s minds.

I would disagree with that poster with respect to inarticulate ramblings, though. Some skilful manipulation of the issues on display here.

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 12:48

ChunkyMonkey36 · 04/06/2026 12:45

Seems to me that some people really do want the best of both worlds.

They want racial profiling, but only if it helps convince everyone that brown people are more dangerous.

They want forceful policing, but also to be able to throw burning bins at them.

They want freedom of speech, but only if that doesn’t involve calling TR names.

They want everyone to have an opinion, but only if it agrees with theirs.

Seems what they actually want is to be able to do as they please, and that’s not how the world works.

You need to warm down after that huge stretch. Some people want the balance to finally be smack bang in the middle - no favours or castigation to ANY race or religion.

ChunkyMonkey36 · 04/06/2026 12:50

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 12:48

You need to warm down after that huge stretch. Some people want the balance to finally be smack bang in the middle - no favours or castigation to ANY race or religion.

Were you on here saying the same thing when that profiling wasn’t targeted towards white people?

I’m going to assume no.

Selective rage because this time it could be your son.

Well it always could have been someone’s. It’s a shame so many can’t fight that fight consistently.

Abhannmor · 04/06/2026 12:51

Whereismyjoiedevivre · 04/06/2026 09:22

I’ve just seen a clip of this in a Guardian article on the main agitators in Southampton on Tuesday.
TR refers to Henry Nowak in this way: “White privilege?! Does Henry swear word beginning with F Nowak look as if he had white privilege when he was lying on the floor?”
He then smirks as he looks down, clearly proud of himself for delivering such an eloquent speech [sarcasm].
I’m beyond disgusted by how the name of this beautiful young man, who has lost his life in the most brutal way, was used in such a disrespectful way in order to rouse a rabble and boost TR’s ego.
AIBU to say that over the last two days TR, NF and their ilk are really showing us who they are and what motivates them?

I must admit to being astonished at how deftly TR - and the far right in general - can flip the narrative to suit the circumstances. His followers either don't notice or don't care. For example Poles and other east European and Balkan people were blamed for all of society's ills less than 10 years ago. And Sikhs were often praised as ' the good brown people '. Fast forward.

Then there's the attitude to the police. After the murder of Sarah Everard , Nigel Farage made a statement calling for calm. It would be wrong to start blaming all police officers or all men he said . Likewise he fully supported the police after the Manchester Airport punch up. But now....they are just a goon squad oppressing white people and it's open season on them. Nauseating levels of hypocrisy.
Of course he is quite right that one should not generalise about people on the basis of their sex , religion or nationality. It's just not his strong suit though.

Loubissou · 04/06/2026 12:52

Of course it is disrespectful. The swear word is in completely the wrong place for the point he was trying to make (which is do not agree with but...). It shows him up for the fucking moron he is. If you are going to swear for emphasis, get it fucking right:

White privilege?! Does Henry Nowak look as if he had white fucking privilege when he was lying on the floor?”

Or

White privilege?! Does Henry Nowak look as if he had white privilege when he was lying on the fucking floor?”

It completely changes the meaning.

Pepperlee · 04/06/2026 12:53

Jellox · 04/06/2026 11:36

Only because of the time of day.

When people get home from work later I can guarantee that TR will have less support.

So you're not at work then?

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 12:54

ChunkyMonkey36 · 04/06/2026 12:50

Were you on here saying the same thing when that profiling wasn’t targeted towards white people?

I’m going to assume no.

Selective rage because this time it could be your son.

Well it always could have been someone’s. It’s a shame so many can’t fight that fight consistently.

Racial profiling has been addressed and overcompensated for to the degree where, once again, the balance hasn't been struck. That is what the public concern is for. You know, those inarticulate, rambling right wing idiots.

CagedBirdInACage · 04/06/2026 12:54

LevisForMe · 04/06/2026 12:25

This isn’t an academic essay or professional communications, so I didn’t carefully review my words before but I wrote what I instinctively feel.

Let me clarify.

As Henry lay dying on the ground, he wasn’t believed by those entrusted to protect us. When he begged for help, none was given. Instead, he was dragged and handcuffed, which may have worsened his injuries and sped up his death. If police hadn't handled him in that way, who knows, maybe his parents would have had the chance to say good bye.

His was arrested and rights were read to him after he had been stabbed 6 times and then taunted and bullied by Digwa while dying. The Digwas as a family denied him help and any chance of making good what their evil son had done (disgusting, lying family).

Henry was surround by police but no one competent, compassionate or with common sense supported him in his final moments.

Because someone cried racist wolf falsely, and given that the Hampshire police are trained to avoid any accusations of racism at all costs, there was a bias against Henry and in favour of the Digwa family.

It’s clear that the Digwas exploited this system, which is wrong and unjust. The police receive training to deal with unconscious bias but it is actually creating new bias in police work, not fairness and equality.

Hampshire & Isle of Wight Constabulary has its own Race Action Plan for 2024-2026, which explicitly states that it supports the national plan and includes commitments such as:

Being an anti-racist organisation.
Understanding the history of policing minority ethnic communities.
Training officers in cultural awareness.
Reviewing racial disparities in police powers and outcomes

The Hampshire training course called Inclusion Matters and covers topics such as racism, unconscious bias, privilege and allyship. Media reports say that some officers felt pressured by aspects of the course.

The police historically has a problem with racism and sexism and addressing racism is important. I have been on the receiving end of racism but these training programmes are not fit for purpose. They are shallow, divisive and informed by contested identity politics. It weakens social cohesion, is unacceptable and we must insist in change to actually support a diverse society.

Other than Farage and his cronies no one will touch this with a barge pole but they are drawing attention to it and unfortunately in the process winning political ground. Plus ça change.

It doesn't have to be an academic paper to tell the truth. Nowak died because he was stabbed. If the police had zero diversity training Nowak would still have died from the stab wounds inflicted on him by Digwa. If the police would have rocked up handcuffed Digwa, knelt on his neck and called him racist slurs whilst straight away performing first aid on Nowak he still would have died. His death wasn't as a result of 'extreme diversity training' as you claimed it was, it was because he was stabbed like the 171 other people were victims of fatal stabbings in England and Wales in 2025. There are 40-50000 knife related crimes recorded in England and Wales every year. Nowak died because there is a knife crime problem and he was stabbed.

piscofrisco · 04/06/2026 12:54

Whereismyjoiedevivre · 04/06/2026 09:35

Imagine your 18 year old child is called Sally Potter.

Imagine she’s brutally murdered and a horrifying clip of her final moments broadcast for everyone to see.

Imagine the country’s most controversial political rabble rouser hijacking her murder for his own reputational gain and making a speech at a protest referring to her as

Sally Fucking Potter”

How would you feel? Is this acceptable?

No it’s not acceptable.
and neither is using his murder for political gain or to insight riot.

ChunkyMonkey36 · 04/06/2026 12:55

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 12:54

Racial profiling has been addressed and overcompensated for to the degree where, once again, the balance hasn't been struck. That is what the public concern is for. You know, those inarticulate, rambling right wing idiots.

Were you on here saying the same thing when that profiling wasn’t targeted towards white people?

I did ask..

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 12:56

CagedBirdInACage · 04/06/2026 12:54

It doesn't have to be an academic paper to tell the truth. Nowak died because he was stabbed. If the police had zero diversity training Nowak would still have died from the stab wounds inflicted on him by Digwa. If the police would have rocked up handcuffed Digwa, knelt on his neck and called him racist slurs whilst straight away performing first aid on Nowak he still would have died. His death wasn't as a result of 'extreme diversity training' as you claimed it was, it was because he was stabbed like the 171 other people were victims of fatal stabbings in England and Wales in 2025. There are 40-50000 knife related crimes recorded in England and Wales every year. Nowak died because there is a knife crime problem and he was stabbed.

His name is Henry.

napody · 04/06/2026 12:56

EarthlyNightshade · 04/06/2026 09:38

I agree with you, OP.

But things are so bad here now, the far right have more or less won.

<I'm not "left", I am pretty much centre>

Same.
He should take Henry Nowak's name out of his vile mouth. His poor family having to see their beautiful son be used as a prop of racists.

And Im using racist rather than 'far right' because thats what Tommy Robinson is. The mask that it's about immigration has well and truly slipped. Mark Nowak is an immigrant. The murderer was British. All the pps commenting that the likes of Yaxley Lennon 'has a point' object to the use of 'far right' because they think their position is more moderate that that. They're wrong. Far right was generous. It was playing down their hatred. They're good old fashioned racist.

It was a vile, evil crime, by a vile, evil individual. Not a community.

The police fucked up and were manipulated by vile manipulators. This happens all the time in DV situations- mistaking perp and victim. It shouldn't have happened but all the racists should just admit that they're GLAD it has.

HelenaWaiting · 04/06/2026 12:57

LuckyHazelFox · 04/06/2026 10:31

Your grandfather fought against fascism to see it now arising from the left, I agree. Many lost military lives were in vain when those very men would be treated unfavourably now. That is why veterans' societies have so many volunteers while the government are prioritising others.

Fascism can't arise from the left. You have to be supremely ignorant to think it can.

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