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Political badges should be banned from NHS uniforms

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Ihatetomatoes · 04/06/2026 08:28

New report says political badges such as Pro Palestine shouldn't be worn on NHS uniforms. It's led to increased antisemitism and fear amongst Jewish patients.

Also NHS uniforms not to be worn on protests.

This report makes a number of suggestions and in my opinion must be implemented. All political badges off NHS uniforms. No NHS uniforms on protests such as pro Palestine. It contributes to racism and fear.

The NHS should treat all patients equally and individuals political opinions shouldn't be pinned on their uniforms.

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Anarchy99 · 11/06/2026 11:23

GeneralPeter · 11/06/2026 11:19

It's not a red herring. It's a direct application of the principles you have expressed.

Badges may or should be worn to help make groups feel welcome.

Doesn't matter if it makes others unwelcome, provided there are other providers with no badges who they can go to.

Not all badges are justified. One justification you endorse though is where a group faces worse health outcomes.

These are your own principles.

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Professionals shouldn’t be advertising their ‘principles’.

DomPom47 · 11/06/2026 11:23

Being anti-genocide isn’t political because it isn’t about supporting a party, government, or ideology. It’s about recognising the value of human life and rejecting the deliberate destruction of entire communities. You can have different political views and still agree that genocide is wrong. Opposing mass atrocities is a matter of basic human decency, not political allegiance. I wear my Palestine badge alongside a white poppy and will not be taking either off.

Fancythatfancyhat · 11/06/2026 11:25

GeneralPeter · 11/06/2026 11:19

It's not a red herring. It's a direct application of the principles you have expressed.

Badges may or should be worn to help make groups feel welcome.

Doesn't matter if it makes others unwelcome, provided there are other providers with no badges who they can go to.

Not all badges are justified. One justification you endorse though is where a group faces worse health outcomes.

These are your own principles.

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No it's not though, it's a red herring and a straw man. There are people genuinely choosing to wear badges or lanyards that show support to political and social movements that exist and have goals of safety and equality that we know of. You're creating two groups that don't exist and don't currently have an advertised political agenda and also staying people will be mandated to wear them. You're also then refusing to engage and explain specifically who white pride or straight rights badges are advocating for and for what reason and what the social movement is. You're also then staying they'll be mandated. If you're gonna create a strawman, you need to actually explain it better and I'll happily say it I would be happy for someone to choose to wear one in the interest of self expression. Hard to tell when you won't confirm if this is a badge supporting white traveller women for example and for them to feel comfortable and engaged on a healthcare setting? Or is this an organisation of white supremacists? Or is white pride referring to all people with White as a surname? As it's literally a made up red herring, I don't know!

ByRedBee · 11/06/2026 11:26

What about poppies ?

Fancythatfancyhat · 11/06/2026 11:29

Anarchy99 · 11/06/2026 11:23

Professionals shouldn’t be advertising their ‘principles’.

Why though given many hospital trusts have advertised principals and values which staff are expected to adhere to and many of the badges staff wear are aligned with these values such as empowerment, empathy, and inclusion etc. Unless you're going to pull a strawman like Peter and suggest this means someone could advertise their racism, you haven't yet explained how them displaying a sign that they support equality is wrong if it is keeping with the hospital trusts values?

Anarchy99 · 11/06/2026 11:31

DomPom47 · 11/06/2026 11:23

Being anti-genocide isn’t political because it isn’t about supporting a party, government, or ideology. It’s about recognising the value of human life and rejecting the deliberate destruction of entire communities. You can have different political views and still agree that genocide is wrong. Opposing mass atrocities is a matter of basic human decency, not political allegiance. I wear my Palestine badge alongside a white poppy and will not be taking either off.

That is illustrating my point perfectly. Are you Palestinian?

Theres always someone who pops up talking about genocide as a way to justify their view,

Is supporting Palestine relevant to treating patients? A Jewish PP has explained their lived experience

Restlessdreams1994 · 11/06/2026 11:34

Most trusts already ban them as part of their uniform policy.

Fancythatfancyhat · 11/06/2026 11:35

Anarchy99 · 11/06/2026 11:31

That is illustrating my point perfectly. Are you Palestinian?

Theres always someone who pops up talking about genocide as a way to justify their view,

Is supporting Palestine relevant to treating patients? A Jewish PP has explained their lived experience

Perhaps as a healthcare worker they feel incredibly saddened by the lack of respect of health workers lives in Palestine who have killed in droves? Or maybe they or their family is Palestinian, is that then okay to you?

A Jewish PP didn't explain how a badge like that detriments their experience and if they simply don't want to be treated by a HCP who feels the genocide in Gaza is wrong they can also ask to see someone else. Many other Jewish patients, including PPs may be wearing a free Palestine badge themselves.

DomPom47 · 11/06/2026 11:36

Anarchy99 · 11/06/2026 11:31

That is illustrating my point perfectly. Are you Palestinian?

Theres always someone who pops up talking about genocide as a way to justify their view,

Is supporting Palestine relevant to treating patients? A Jewish PP has explained their lived experience

I don’t need to be Palestinian to oppose genocide any more than someone needs to be Jewish to oppose antisemitism. Human rights are universal.
You dismiss references to genocide as if they’re simply a debating point, yet the issue is the subject of ongoing international legal proceedings and findings by human rights experts. Opposing genocide and the suffering of civilians is not a fringe position—it’s a moral one.
You also invoke one person’s lived experience while disregarding the lived experiences of Palestinians and the many Jewish people who wear Palestine badges, attend solidarity marches, and speak out against the destruction in Gaza. Lived experience isn’t only valid when it supports your viewpoint.
A Palestine badge alongside a white poppy reflects opposition to war, violence, and the suffering of civilians. That’s entirely consistent with the values many healthcare professionals bring to their work.

Anarchy99 · 11/06/2026 11:39

Fancythatfancyhat · 11/06/2026 11:29

Why though given many hospital trusts have advertised principals and values which staff are expected to adhere to and many of the badges staff wear are aligned with these values such as empowerment, empathy, and inclusion etc. Unless you're going to pull a strawman like Peter and suggest this means someone could advertise their racism, you haven't yet explained how them displaying a sign that they support equality is wrong if it is keeping with the hospital trusts values?

Wearing a badge doesn’t mean they genuinely support inclusion in any case. It only shows a desire to virtue signal.

Empowerment, empathy and inclusion should be adhered to in most things - but badges claiming to have empathy for a specific group are unnecessary and problematic

Anarchy99 · 11/06/2026 11:43

DomPom47 · 11/06/2026 11:36

I don’t need to be Palestinian to oppose genocide any more than someone needs to be Jewish to oppose antisemitism. Human rights are universal.
You dismiss references to genocide as if they’re simply a debating point, yet the issue is the subject of ongoing international legal proceedings and findings by human rights experts. Opposing genocide and the suffering of civilians is not a fringe position—it’s a moral one.
You also invoke one person’s lived experience while disregarding the lived experiences of Palestinians and the many Jewish people who wear Palestine badges, attend solidarity marches, and speak out against the destruction in Gaza. Lived experience isn’t only valid when it supports your viewpoint.
A Palestine badge alongside a white poppy reflects opposition to war, violence, and the suffering of civilians. That’s entirely consistent with the values many healthcare professionals bring to their work.

And for someone who is Jewish and is experiencing the current wave of severe anti Semitism? They aren’t the ones killing people. Yet some of the Pro Palestine supporters here are the ones killing people, destroying ambulances and subjecting school children to hate.

But that’s okay, right, because Israel is apparently bad and Palestine is apparently good

Fancythatfancyhat · 11/06/2026 11:45

Anarchy99 · 11/06/2026 11:39

Wearing a badge doesn’t mean they genuinely support inclusion in any case. It only shows a desire to virtue signal.

Empowerment, empathy and inclusion should be adhered to in most things - but badges claiming to have empathy for a specific group are unnecessary and problematic

You interpret it as virtue signalling - fine. Can I ask what's so wrong about signalling support of inclusion or anti genocide though? I can't understand what the actual problem and I think virtue signalling is a bit of a buzzword like when mens right activists used to get in a tizzy over people being "social justice warriors" without explaining why social justice is somehow a bad thing..I'm also curious how they are unnecessary given many patients that they're aimed at have felt comfortable knowing they can choose a staff member with such a lanyard, so it's doing it's necessary job. You also clearly aren't very comfortable with people who support LGBT people or opposed genocide and I don't think you should have to be seen by anyone who you don't feel comfortable with, surely them wearing a badge helps you weed them out?

Fancythatfancyhat · 11/06/2026 11:47

Anarchy99 · 11/06/2026 11:43

And for someone who is Jewish and is experiencing the current wave of severe anti Semitism? They aren’t the ones killing people. Yet some of the Pro Palestine supporters here are the ones killing people, destroying ambulances and subjecting school children to hate.

But that’s okay, right, because Israel is apparently bad and Palestine is apparently good

You're gonna have to expand on if you mean a pro Palestine badge is inherently anti-Semitic, if it isn't I'm not sure why you're conflating it with someone's experience of antisemitism.

TheKeatingFive · 11/06/2026 11:49

DomPom47 · 11/06/2026 11:23

Being anti-genocide isn’t political because it isn’t about supporting a party, government, or ideology. It’s about recognising the value of human life and rejecting the deliberate destruction of entire communities. You can have different political views and still agree that genocide is wrong. Opposing mass atrocities is a matter of basic human decency, not political allegiance. I wear my Palestine badge alongside a white poppy and will not be taking either off.

Why can't you just wear whatever badges you like on your own time - they are of no relevance to your job.

DomPom47 · 11/06/2026 11:50

Anarchy99 · 11/06/2026 11:43

And for someone who is Jewish and is experiencing the current wave of severe anti Semitism? They aren’t the ones killing people. Yet some of the Pro Palestine supporters here are the ones killing people, destroying ambulances and subjecting school children to hate.

But that’s okay, right, because Israel is apparently bad and Palestine is apparently good

Antisemitism is real, serious, and should be challenged wherever it occurs. Jewish people should not be made to feel unsafe or held responsible for the actions of any government. I go on many marches with Jewish people and people of all faiths and non who are aware of what is happening to Palestinians and see it is as abhorrent and wrong. Who have issues with the number of journalists murdered who have issues with the destructions of hospitals. Who have issues with international journalists not been allowed in. Who have issues with people like Doctor Maynard’s testimony been minimised.
Just like antisemitism is not okay equally, Palestinians should not be collectively punished, dehumanised, or have their suffering dismissed because of the actions of others.
The problem with your argument is that you’re treating opposition to the destruction of Palestinians as support for antisemitism. They are not the same thing. Many Jewish people themselves oppose what is happening in Gaza and stand in solidarity with Palestinians. Their views and lived experiences are no less valid.
Wearing a Palestine badge and a white poppy does not mean “Israel bad, Palestine good”. It means opposing war, violence, and the suffering of civilians. If we can recognise antisemitism as wrong, we should also be able to recognise the suffering of Palestinians without turning it into a competition.
Empathy isn’t a finite resource. I can oppose antisemitism and oppose the destruction of Palestinians at the same time.

Anarchy99 · 11/06/2026 11:51

Fancythatfancyhat · 11/06/2026 11:45

You interpret it as virtue signalling - fine. Can I ask what's so wrong about signalling support of inclusion or anti genocide though? I can't understand what the actual problem and I think virtue signalling is a bit of a buzzword like when mens right activists used to get in a tizzy over people being "social justice warriors" without explaining why social justice is somehow a bad thing..I'm also curious how they are unnecessary given many patients that they're aimed at have felt comfortable knowing they can choose a staff member with such a lanyard, so it's doing it's necessary job. You also clearly aren't very comfortable with people who support LGBT people or opposed genocide and I don't think you should have to be seen by anyone who you don't feel comfortable with, surely them wearing a badge helps you weed them out?

You have extrapolated an awful lot of incorrect information from my posts.

You are also assuming it’s as easy as requesting to see a different person.

i don’t know what’s so controversial about saying no badges. Yet you have an issue with that. Not sure why but this is getting nowhere. I’m sure everyone feels really comfortable with you so it’s fine. 🙄

GeneralPeter · 11/06/2026 11:52

Fancythatfancyhat · 11/06/2026 11:25

No it's not though, it's a red herring and a straw man. There are people genuinely choosing to wear badges or lanyards that show support to political and social movements that exist and have goals of safety and equality that we know of. You're creating two groups that don't exist and don't currently have an advertised political agenda and also staying people will be mandated to wear them. You're also then refusing to engage and explain specifically who white pride or straight rights badges are advocating for and for what reason and what the social movement is. You're also then staying they'll be mandated. If you're gonna create a strawman, you need to actually explain it better and I'll happily say it I would be happy for someone to choose to wear one in the interest of self expression. Hard to tell when you won't confirm if this is a badge supporting white traveller women for example and for them to feel comfortable and engaged on a healthcare setting? Or is this an organisation of white supremacists? Or is white pride referring to all people with White as a surname? As it's literally a made up red herring, I don't know!

White rights and straight rights badges advocate for the rights of whites and straights. But the reason they will be worn in the NHS is to make whites and straights feel comfortable and engaged in a healthcare setting where they have worse health outcomes (well, whites do. I don't have data on straights).

When you were justifying your position you said wearing an England flag was in no way comparable to other badges because BAME people have worse health outcomes, and that failing to recognise that was "obtuse and stupid". Then we looked at the data and suddenly the goalposts moved.

This emotional labour is exhausting. Still, such is the life of a social justice activist. But today I have work to do so will have to bid you good day.

DomPom47 · 11/06/2026 11:55

TheKeatingFive · 11/06/2026 11:49

Why can't you just wear whatever badges you like on your own time - they are of no relevance to your job.

Because some issues are bigger than politics and go to the heart of basic human values.
If I’d lived during the suffragette movement, I’d have worn a suffragette badge. If I’d lived during apartheid in South Africa, I’d have worn an anti-apartheid badge. Standing against injustice has never been irrelevant simply because it isn’t directly part of a job description.
A Palestine badge and a white poppy reflect my opposition to war, oppression, and the suffering of civilians. They don’t harm anyone, exclude anyone, or prevent me from doing my job professionally. They simply show where I stand on issues of humanity, equality, and human rights.
History rarely asks why people spoke up against injustice. More often, it asks why so many chose not to. I can do my job, not breaking any uniform rules and will continue to wear them with pride.

Fancythatfancyhat · 11/06/2026 11:55

TheKeatingFive · 11/06/2026 11:49

Why can't you just wear whatever badges you like on your own time - they are of no relevance to your job.

Well crosses, religious bracelets, headscarves, wedding rings, tattoos, piercings can all be argued against by someone and suggested to show an allegiance to something.some might deem a political or social agenda of sorts. With an organisation as diverse as the NHS, what some might consider a political expression will be a culturally significant item to someone else. I don't think they should all be banned because someone may not like one over another. What if someone wants to wear green and purple in allegiance with the Darlington nurses for example? Should they not be allowed to?

TheKeatingFive · 11/06/2026 11:57

DomPom47 · 11/06/2026 11:55

Because some issues are bigger than politics and go to the heart of basic human values.
If I’d lived during the suffragette movement, I’d have worn a suffragette badge. If I’d lived during apartheid in South Africa, I’d have worn an anti-apartheid badge. Standing against injustice has never been irrelevant simply because it isn’t directly part of a job description.
A Palestine badge and a white poppy reflect my opposition to war, oppression, and the suffering of civilians. They don’t harm anyone, exclude anyone, or prevent me from doing my job professionally. They simply show where I stand on issues of humanity, equality, and human rights.
History rarely asks why people spoke up against injustice. More often, it asks why so many chose not to. I can do my job, not breaking any uniform rules and will continue to wear them with pride.

So do it on your own time then.

Your views of the world are it relevant to the people you treat. They just want high quality, professional care from you.

Fancythatfancyhat · 11/06/2026 11:58

TheKeatingFive · 11/06/2026 11:57

So do it on your own time then.

Your views of the world are it relevant to the people you treat. They just want high quality, professional care from you.

Sometimes they're treating people to whom those views are very relevant though, that's the whole bloody point.

TheKeatingFive · 11/06/2026 11:59

Fancythatfancyhat · 11/06/2026 11:55

Well crosses, religious bracelets, headscarves, wedding rings, tattoos, piercings can all be argued against by someone and suggested to show an allegiance to something.some might deem a political or social agenda of sorts. With an organisation as diverse as the NHS, what some might consider a political expression will be a culturally significant item to someone else. I don't think they should all be banned because someone may not like one over another. What if someone wants to wear green and purple in allegiance with the Darlington nurses for example? Should they not be allowed to?

I dont think religious symbolism should be overt either, though something like a chain is easily hidden.

I'm just not sure what is so controversial about expressing your political views outside of a work setting

TheKeatingFive · 11/06/2026 11:59

Fancythatfancyhat · 11/06/2026 11:58

Sometimes they're treating people to whom those views are very relevant though, that's the whole bloody point.

And sometimes they're the opposite. So given they are not relevant to treatment, keep them to outside of work.

DomPom47 · 11/06/2026 12:00

TheKeatingFive · 11/06/2026 11:57

So do it on your own time then.

Your views of the world are it relevant to the people you treat. They just want high quality, professional care from you.

But professionalism doesn’t require people to abandon their values. Healthcare professionals wear badges supporting charities, equality, remembrance, organ donation, Pride, and countless other causes. A small badge expressing opposition to war and concern for human rights doesn’t prevent anyone from providing excellent care.
In fact, compassion, dignity, equality, and respect for human life are fundamental values in healthcare. Those values don’t stop when I leave work, and they don’t become inappropriate because they’re visible on a lanyard.
The assumption that caring about human rights somehow makes someone less professional says more about the observer than the badge.

Fancythatfancyhat · 11/06/2026 12:02

TheKeatingFive · 11/06/2026 11:59

I dont think religious symbolism should be overt either, though something like a chain is easily hidden.

I'm just not sure what is so controversial about expressing your political views outside of a work setting

Could you answer the question, do you equally support any support or GC views being shown? I meant the Darlington nurses went very public with their own identities meaning patients who seem them will be explicitly aware of their views - should they have separated their public campaign from their HCP identities and not done photoshoots in their uniforms? The law regarding SSS is equally valid to equality laws for LGBT people, so are both groups making a political statement that should be banned or should both be allowed in a fair workplace ?