AIBU to feel deeply unsettled by the Southampton protest scenes?

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Southampton protest against police, huge crowd, Tommy Robinson whipping everyone into a frenzy and saying "this IS about race"

Other speakers declaring that England is a Christian country. The Lords Prayer chanted by every speaker. The leader of UKIP saying he will deport all migrants and make government Christian. The leaders of the protest saying they are being pushed by the police cordon, while the camera angle shows the police haven't moved. The leaders of the protest mocking the female police officer who are taking over a shift from another police officer in the cordon "They're replacing all the men with women!"

This is awful. It feels like the start of civil war. Maybe human beings just aren't supposed to go decades without a fight.

Still shouldn’t be a reason to stay quiet about important things. There will always be emotional vampires, but most people who are moved to protest against injustice are not.

You are loving this yeah?

Slow 👏to you and your thread.

Your very post is part of the problem.

HN seemed to be on his own yet there were 2 brothers at least with one whinging about a supposed scratch on his eyebrow

I'm horrified. My mum lives in Southampton and I'm scared.

Yes I agree. There are evil people from all walks of life. The killer made it about race though.

Then when he said he couldn't breath and had been stabbed they laid him onto his side checked for stab wounds and called an ambulance. Can you imagine how hard it is to make a split second decision when every piece of information you was given up to that point was wrong.

They're sadly the same thugs that have been pushing for this shit here and in the US. They see this tragic death as the perfect opportunity to wreak havoc. Very depressing and morally bankrupt.

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No need to guess.

My one post on the subject at the time was actually quite similar to what Kemi Badenoch has said today.

”Black lives mattering doesn’t mean that white lives don’t. This isn’t a pie that you’re sharing. I don’t give a shit if you’re black, white or purple - nobody deserves to be murdered by the police in the street.”

I stand by that. Henry Novak being white does not make him deserving of being ignored when he said he had been stabbed. It wouldn’t have made him deserving of it if he’d been any other colour either, because nobody deserves that.

There is a pervasive and very nasty narrative that has got a hold in public life.

On a level extremely trivial compared to this murder, but upsetting nonetheless, ds went to a job interview at an arts organisation. At its conclusion, the HR woman said, “Frankly the last person we’re going to employ is a white middle-class male.” Ds, being a nervous nerd, slunk out, but felt gutted, as if he were a criminal.

I don’t hold with any antagonism towards Sikhs (ds’s best friend is a Sikh - they are imo fine people) - the murderer and his family were just evil (and honestly I don’t think really woke people care too much for Sikhs as they’re not victim-y enough or visible) - BUT it’s this general EDI nonsense that has led to the police making a terrible mistake.

A freedom of information request indicated just how many jobs there are in this field and how many millions are spent on what resulted in Henry Nowak’s miserable treatment.

I think what @PolkaDotPorridge is trying to say is that the protesters are white working class people and therefore should be ignored.

The white police officers weren’t heavier handed or delayed medical treatment because they were systematically racist to white people.

But that's exactly what they were. They automatically believed the non-white person who had said the magic r-word, over the stabbed white boy.

And unlike Floyd, he wasn't a fentanyl addict with a criminal record, either.

It was a bit more than a 'mistake'

If your child lost their life would you say 'no problem we all make mistakes'

Luckily nowhere near this, but I'm imagining being a resident in that street. I've never been at a protest so I suppose it's quite shocking to see this. I suppise the closest would be the London riots which I saw on TV but still felt distant from me.

George Floyd’s death was NOT used to stir up hatred towards white people. That’s a complete. It was used to stir anger at inaction and failure to properly investigate claims of police brutality and police killings. If you think that’s “hatred towards white people” I don’t know what to say except to ask why you associate police killings with white people.

Did you listen to his families statement?it’s very unsettling but causing more violence won’t be the answer. I feel so bad for that poor lad and his family but I don’t believe tommy Robinson and his mob really care about it.

This is the turning point now for DEI to be scrutinised. It's been a long time coming.

I’m as peace loving as they come, but part of me is secretly glad that riots are taking place about this. After all the taking the knee shite we had to witness after George Floyds’s death I’m pleased the great unwashed have been moved to action.

No id be mad at the murderer they already made it clear Henry couldn't of been saved no matter what anyone did

Yes I did.