AIBU to feel deeply unsettled by the Southampton protest scenes?

[HopelessPessimist]

Southampton protest against police, huge crowd, Tommy Robinson whipping everyone into a frenzy and saying "this IS about race"

Other speakers declaring that England is a Christian country. The Lords Prayer chanted by every speaker. The leader of UKIP saying he will deport all migrants and make government Christian. The leaders of the protest saying they are being pushed by the police cordon, while the camera angle shows the police haven't moved. The leaders of the protest mocking the female police officer who are taking over a shift from another police officer in the cordon "They're replacing all the men with women!"

This is awful. It feels like the start of civil war. Maybe human beings just aren't supposed to go decades without a fight.

Yes but what’s to come will be much worse if people don’t respect the wishes of Henry’s family who made a heartbreaking statement. Many of those protesting will not be doing it for Henry nor concerned about what you just wrote but because that are waiting to cause trouble which will lead to more innocent lives being taken.

It's fucking heartbreaking 💔

They took the claim of racism more serious than the poor lad asking for help because he had been stabbed.

He died handcuffed and dragged across the floor being called a lier.

Hurty words with a fake claim of a head scarf being removed were taken more seriously than what became a deadly assault.

Someone will be along in a minute to say it was dark.

Now that I agree with. Im sticking up for the officers but im absolutely not sticking up for the system

They have every right to air their opinions, exercise their free speech and that includes things you aren't comfortable with.

Katie Hopkins, Laurence fox and Tommy Robinson at the September protests unite the kingdom lot you mean yeah?

Only after they handcuffed him. Imagine handcuffing a man stabbed that many times. Crazy.

Fair. Cruelty and inhumane treatment are police specialities.

Oh please

The investigation into the conduct of the police hasn’t been completed so how have they been found innocent? The Home Secretary has said this today so who’s found them innocent?

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/home-secretary-statement-on-henry-nowak

See the thing is people still remember when George Floyd’s death was used to stir up hatred against white people including in this country where it didn’t even happen. Over a year straight of being told we’re all implicitly evil and privileged and we all descend from plantation and slave owners even though 99% of us descended from farmers who died at 40. I mean obviously we’ve been getting small doses of this shit for a few decades now but it really ramped up then. You remember Starmer taking a knee for Floyd an American citizen? And the English football team taking the knee for an American citizen. World Cup in a few weeks do you think they’ll do the same for a British teenager?

Anyway did you complain about Floyd’s death being used to create division or were you posting black squares on your Facebook page in 2020? I think I can guess

They have no right to go against the expressed wishes of the deceased family members.

Zero.

It’s disrespectful, and if you can’t see that, I’m going to assume you’d also argue that the sky is purple.

The family knew what they were doing and what they could expect to get away with.

Horrible yobbery. However, what annoys me is that none of this is a surprise - a certain politician named Enoch Powell warned of the dangers of too much immigration more than 50 years ago. He used unnecessarily inflammatory language but his points have generally come to pass.

If we had had more thoughtful politicians who actually considered the impact, phased in the changes more slowly and introduced systems to keep proper control of the borders it perhaps wouldn’t be so bad. Instead they focused on promoting multiculturalism (fair enough) while shutting down facts and debate (less advisable.)

For me the treatment of white victims of the Pakistani rape gangs was a real
turning point that hardened my attitude. Our authorities have not kept our own people safe.

My dad had always told me to avoid men from that part of the world which I had dismissed as racist. Now I find myself telling my own daughters to be extremely careful.

You think the police deserve a mob, most of whom haven't the brain cells to know what day it is?

Wow.

This is awful. It feels like the start of civil war.
YABU and ridiculous and incredibly ignorant.

Today I only care about Henry Novak and his family.

No one should be entitled to prance around the streets showing off a fuck off knife in the name of religion, culture, or what not.

I can't abide Tommy, Nigel, Donald I hate them and it is a huge shame albeit predictable politics that they are abusing Henry's name for their awful cause.

But it's also a huge shame for Labour, Greens and similar to turn a blind eye to the conduct and privileges of some groups because they don't wish to cause offence.

The police and all organisations must urgently review EDI policies and approach this differently, more real practical equality and fair and decent behaviour expectations, bin identity politics.

So you expect nobody to say anything in this case? It doesn't work like that.

Yeah, that's not what happened though.

This is right. The video of the body cam footage ends with the female officer saying "his pupils aren't even reacting". At this point Henry was still handcuffed. Essentially, the police finally took the handcuffs off and started CPR after he was already dead.

No! they arrested him, forced him to sit up and handcuffed him behind his back.

can you imagine the absolute pain he must’ve felt when they forced him to do that?

They contributed to his pain and suffering

It is exactly what happened.

How do these protests come anywhere close to the BLM protests??

No one should be giving that comparison and there’s no need to even mention it when discussing this topic.

It’s like comparing the protests after Sarah Everards death to the BLMs protests - it has absolutely no connection.

The white police officers weren’t heavier handed or delayed medical treatment because they were systematically racist to white people.

Surely you can see the difference in protesting against systemic corruption towards black people or violence against women vs one poor young man being allowed to die??

Half of these people protesting do not even understand why they’re doing it or what changes they’re asking for.

His exact words where I don't think you have mate as he was pulling his shirt up at the back looking for stab wounds they then said are you talking about your face and started checking then he got really unwell and they called the ambulance

They've started attacking the riot police, they are pushing the riot police back, all on a normal residential street. There's glass being thrown. I'm amazed the YouTuber is still streaming this