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AIBU to feel deeply unsettled by the Southampton protest scenes?

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HopelessPessimist · Yesterday 19:02

Southampton protest against police, huge crowd, Tommy Robinson whipping everyone into a frenzy and saying "this IS about race"

Other speakers declaring that England is a Christian country. The Lords Prayer chanted by every speaker. The leader of UKIP saying he will deport all migrants and make government Christian. The leaders of the protest saying they are being pushed by the police cordon, while the camera angle shows the police haven't moved. The leaders of the protest mocking the female police officer who are taking over a shift from another police officer in the cordon "They're replacing all the men with women!"

This is awful. It feels like the start of civil war. Maybe human beings just aren't supposed to go decades without a fight.

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hay5689 · Today 04:46

youalright · Today 04:43

No i actually watched the video which it appears most on here haven't

So everyone else is wrong and you are right? I can’t decide if you or your family members are police or if you are a troll or just stupid because you refuse to see what everyone else saw and heard.

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 04:46

KnitFastDieWarm · Today 00:37

oh well that’s fine then, I’m sure that all that ‘carefully prepared evidence’ totally makes up for his parents having their child’s last moments on video as he bled to death while being called a liar by those who were supposed to protect him. It’s ’lessons will be learned’ and it’s just as meaningless.

I can’t imagine the loneliness and despair that poor man - really a boy, barely out of childhood - must have felt.

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Think that poster is on a wind up. They have quoted me a similar thread and basically said that the man who killed Henry didn’t mention anything about racism! Just another gaslighting, manipulative twit!

youalright · Today 04:58

hay5689 · Today 04:46

So everyone else is wrong and you are right? I can’t decide if you or your family members are police or if you are a troll or just stupid because you refuse to see what everyone else saw and heard.

I stated exactly what happened on the video nothing further. The police didn't drag him to the ground. Anyone who actually bothered to watch the video would know that.

AIBU to feel deeply unsettled by the Southampton protest scenes?
Winter2020 · Today 05:05

mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 20:04

I do think its a case of negligent policing here, rather than a choice made due to race. (It could well have been due to race, we dont know the officers minds) but it seems more that they didnt bother to check on the man in their care! 'I dont think you have been mate', fucking get down to his level and check. He is not a dog.

Its fucking disgusting and the officers are negligent and should be found so in the inquiry, and trials that follow.

For me, the big issue with the police, is classism. The survivors of the disgusting grooming gangs wouldn't have been ignored if they were middle class, not a chance. Were the sikh man not seeming like a homeowner of that large property, i dont think the police would've given him the same respect.

The protests today are just an excuse for Tommy Robinson to incite violence though. He doesnt care.

Rip Henry Nowak.

Do people that protest a black death "care"? I suspect in your opinion people that protest a black death "care" and are virtuous, people that protest a white death don't care (how could they?) and are just spoiling for a fight. Why is that? It is EXACTLY what people are sick of.

Purplerubberducky · Today 05:06

lornad00m · Today 00:58

'This! It is awful, but'

Whataboutism rears its ugly head. Again. 🙄

It isn’t whataboutism. It’s an agreement with a pp and an answer to the op. This is not a widespread issue.

Whataboutism would be, “how come there isn’t this uproar when the police don’t believe women who are raped”? For example.

Winter2020 · Today 05:10

Jellox · Yesterday 20:06

I feel so sorry for the parents who have just lost their child in horrific circumstances and people are using it as an excuse to be racist and be violent.

It’s disgusting how these idiots prey on other people’s grief.

There needs to be stricter laws against this.

Will these laws against protest apply when a black person or someone from a minority group is killed? Will protesting in those circumstances be illegal or do you only want it to be illegal to protest about a white person's death?

Flyingintotheunknown · Today 05:11

Winter2020 · Today 05:05

Do people that protest a black death "care"? I suspect in your opinion people that protest a black death "care" and are virtuous, people that protest a white death don't care (how could they?) and are just spoiling for a fight. Why is that? It is EXACTLY what people are sick of.

Agree. They only say what suits their narrative. They have no logical explanation to back up the shit they say on threads like this. Often resorting to the same scripted lines and dragging Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage into everything! It’s so predictable it’s laughable.

Cocoda · Today 05:44

WaryCrow · Yesterday 19:36

Not again. I just put something on the other thread. There may be questions to answer for the police but they should be questions with attentive listening to the answers, not bloody jumping on bandwagons. Policing is hard, no doubt they hear ‘I’ve been stabbed’ and ‘I can’t breathe’ many times from criminals who are very aware of their rights now.

I’m very unsettled by any lunatic demagogue who tries to drum up mobs.

.😡. but Henry was .. and he couldn't.. and he died.. 🙏❤️🙏

Purplerubberducky · Today 06:01

Winter2020 · Today 04:38

Did you think that "in the UK" you would see a man from Sudan stab a young woman 23 times and then dance in celebration.

Do you think that Deng Majek, who stabbed Riannon Whyte 23 times, was misrepresented in the media?

People have a right to be angry.

How can you not see that this has no relevance whatsoever? Around the world horrific crimes are going to be committed by people in different countries to where they are born, including British people in foreign countries. There are some fucked up people in the world. What matters here is that someone was murdered and not listened to by the police, and what can be done to prevent anything like this happening again. It is relevant to say that there is no evidence of a widespread issue of police disbelieving white people, on the contrary, there is plenty of recent evidence to show that racism towards ethnic minorities remains rife within the police force.

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