AIBU to feel deeply unsettled by the Southampton protest scenes?

[HopelessPessimist]

Southampton protest against police, huge crowd, Tommy Robinson whipping everyone into a frenzy and saying "this IS about race"

Other speakers declaring that England is a Christian country. The Lords Prayer chanted by every speaker. The leader of UKIP saying he will deport all migrants and make government Christian. The leaders of the protest saying they are being pushed by the police cordon, while the camera angle shows the police haven't moved. The leaders of the protest mocking the female police officer who are taking over a shift from another police officer in the cordon "They're replacing all the men with women!"

This is awful. It feels like the start of civil war. Maybe human beings just aren't supposed to go decades without a fight.

Oh so we are saying that anti-semitism is fine?

Did you not see the video footage? That’s EXACTLY what happened. Off the scale shocking….

It's because he died by direct force of the police. This case is similar as the guy died also while being taken into custody, although it was more because he was dismissed and disbelieved rather than directly killed by the officer.

A protest is fine, hurling flaming wheelie bins at officers isn’t.

@trueredstart
Liberal humanism has created societal dissonance, whereas Christianity gave us common ground.

This is nonsense and ignores the numerous crusades and genocides that Christians carried out against other Christians.

But again only if his victim was white. His advantage wasn't that he was specifically Sikh, but that he was an ethnic minority.

Peaceful process meter is a necessary vent that allows the steam to escape and prevents an ugly explosion. But it’s important that protestors are listened to and that, where reasonable, there concerns are acted upon. Democracy isn’t just an X on a ballot sheet once every 4 or 5 years. Governments need to be responsive.

Getting a green bin lobbed at you is going to be painful. I don’t blame the police for getting out of there.

Sorry I misunderstood but I was not aware Nowak was an immigrant?

It really really is a head scratcher isn't it? Perhaps you should just go stick LBC on and make yourself a soy latte..

Do you have a list of these numerous genocides?

Looks like Two Tier Keir Starmer is already dusting off his Southport act and doing the whole ‘anyone who has concerns is a racist’ routine.

The luvvies all over tv, radio and print, showing us their progressive credentials, regurgitating lines about far right.

When will the wokesters learn? The far right only gets a look in and turn up to riot because moderate people with reasonable concerns keep being told they are racist.

So I assume other recent immigrants eg Chinese/Indian are more likely to live in poor areas, so why aren't they also disproportionately represented in knife crime statistics if it's all about deprivation (rather than culture eg rates of single parenthood, influence of drill music etc)?

That’s nonsense though. There is nothing to suggest that. Ethnic minoroties don’t receive the same treatment from the police. So he could easily have claimed “I was attacked due to racism. And it would have worked against a Muslim or black person who die in police custody all the time. There is a tendency to venerate the Sikh community and that definitely had a role to play here.

His advantage was that he was British and loudly claiming he was attacked by an immigrant. He is full of the same hate as those mobs wailing about immigration.

He wasn't, he was born here.

Why is the army of Christ monstrous? The Christian (and Jewish) God proclaims love and acceptance to all without any expectation than that you should live a good life, loving those around you as you would like to be loved, and loving God by following his/her ways - and those ways are of helping eacho other, and helping others.
If you are interested in the Crusades, which took place between the 11th and 14th centuries in the Levant, then the history of Arab expansion out of Arabia and the encouragement (by treating non-Muslims as second class citizens and taxing them for not being Muslim) of conversion to Islam in lands which had been majority Christian with Judaism as a second faith - and the Levant is the cradle of Christianity (as of Judaism, of course, Islam comes out of Arabia) - is the key to the Crusades. The Ottoman Turks invaded Europe as far as Vienna, in 1571 (7th Oct) a combined European fleet beat off an invasion fleet from Turkey. In c. 1450 Byzantium to Islamic forces ending the Eastern Roman empire which had endured for a 1000 years. Greece, Albania etc were part of the Ottoman Empire (16th C. onwards). The Iberian Peninsula was held by various caliphates with a rear-guard action from the ousted Christians from 700 AD until the 1490s (this crusade is called the Reconquista). Sicily was Islamic and, as in Spain, the influence of Islam remains. If you were standing in France, anywhere Germanic, in the Italian states and in eastern Europe what you were seeing was an invasion from Arabia and Turkey of a crusading religion that was not just a religion but a whole package of laws and institutions e.g. Sharia law and rule by theocracy (caliphs and emirs are religious rulers). Was Europe, which was Christian, to sit and watch their lands being encroached on? Or should they attempt to stem the invasion as far as they could? They chose to stem the invasion, and kept on doing so across several arenas until the eighteenth century. Had they not we would all be Muslims, possibly ruled by theocrats such as those in Iran and Afghanistan, or Saudi Arabia.

Civil war is coming. Woke far left policies have been pushing the British people for too long and now they’re snapping.

Problem is the country is so messed up we have no center political party anymore. The left are trying to appease the far left and the right are trying to appeal the far right.

The country cannot go on like this.

According to Starmer he was a Welsh choir boy. Until the cover up was exposed and it turned out he had been radicalised and was known to Prevent.
Welsh choir boy my arse

For all you white children parents worrying about racism, you are being ridiculous. This has happened once. This is not indicative of a whole police force made up mostly of white people being racist. Get a fucking grip. I say this as a very white woman.

Henry Nowak was British, with one immigrant parent. Neither the police or his killer would have any way of knowing he had an immigrant parent so it's irrrelevant here.

There is no evidence for separated parents causing violence. I also don’t think there is any widespread culture of “drill music.”

Or did drill music and separated parent status cause disproportionate murder rates in Glasgow too? Did Digwa stab Nowak because of drill music and single parents existing?

This is just the 2026 version of the 90s argument that video games and horror films cause violence.

Which woke far left policies are you talking about? Given the tories have been in power for years until recently, are you saying they were woke far left?

Radicalised by whom?

Which woke far left policies under a Tory government are you talking about.