AIBU to feel deeply unsettled by the Southampton protest scenes?

[HopelessPessimist]

Southampton protest against police, huge crowd, Tommy Robinson whipping everyone into a frenzy and saying "this IS about race"

Other speakers declaring that England is a Christian country. The Lords Prayer chanted by every speaker. The leader of UKIP saying he will deport all migrants and make government Christian. The leaders of the protest saying they are being pushed by the police cordon, while the camera angle shows the police haven't moved. The leaders of the protest mocking the female police officer who are taking over a shift from another police officer in the cordon "They're replacing all the men with women!"

This is awful. It feels like the start of civil war. Maybe human beings just aren't supposed to go decades without a fight.

WTF are you on about? He is a Sikh. Behave!

And you expect them to admit it? Have you ever heard of unconscious racism?

I think the full statements from Henry’s parents paint a really devastating picture. Why was Dingwa treated so well even after the police all knew he had murdered Henry and lied about it in such a callous , wicked way. Dingwa was never handcuffed when he was arrested.
I haven’t felt this sick to my stomach since Southport , Manchester , Nottingham , and also Lee rigby. The mood music is so grim and the country is at a tipping point I’m afraid.

That is complete rubbish - the Southampton killer is a Sikh as this thread discusses. If you mean the Southport killer there is no evidence he was a Christian, as indeed he couldn't be and do what he did.

Sorry!

It doesn’t matter what colour, sex, religion you are if you are dying in front of the police you should receive help or at least some compassion.

Oh dear I think you are getting Southampton mixed up with Southport😀

What were we not warned about? What anger has been building for years?

So just a few weeks back Tommeh was questioning if Lowe was being too racist - yeah, I know! - as his own focus is on hating Islam and apparently he has black mates (I know again!).

Obviously, today Tommeh peed his pants at his blind good fortune just to go all in for equality in racism and hate all non whites. So he’s either paid to do so, or he’s just acknowledging now his original blanket racism.

Farage plays down his racist views - particularly his anti semitic ones (strange people seem ok with him having these just not Palestinian marchers who ‘might’ have them) - he also did not believe in blaming all police officers for Sarah Everard and encouraged restraint not riots - but he’s also seemingly had a blinding conversion to inciting ‘pure, cold rage’ now a non white committed a horrific murder.

Lowe, and his bank roller Musk, are completely racist and have always been so.

Go back to those medieval Christian times, and you will find in many respects they are even worse than the worst Islamic states of today.

Which is hardly surprising given a society "built on" ancient Abrahamic superstition, which is what Christianity essentially is.

The modern West, in contrast, is built on secular democracy, liberal humanism, rational philosophy and science. We have largely managed to push Middle Eastern religion into the realm of "personal belief", and progress in that secular direction can be expected to continue.

We need to be just as wary of those who would re-impose Christianity as we are of those who would impose Islamism - there's little actual difference.

I'm really glad it's calm round your way, I think it's winding down

Do you think the mood music - as you put it - has changed significantly between the previous events you mention here and now? I don’t. I think it’s the same.

Yes. And they do have to admit it. They’ll be under oath. So…

They should at least check whether a suspect who claims to have been stabbed is bleeding or anything before they start yanking them about and cuffing them.

What are you on about?

Politicians have allowed their policies to pull too far one way and ignored the middle ground which is common sens. Now the correction is over correcting and we are potentially going to swing far right as a result. It lies in the hands of all politicians over three decades and exacerbated by social media algorithms.

They love having Black people in their mouth and thoughts. What the fuck has this thread got to to do with Black people? The absolute obsession is crazy. I see it so often on so many threads. What has the death of this young man (may he rest in peace and I am so sorry for him and his family) got to do with Black people?

I really hope so

Nice oikophobia. And it's not very intelligent to repeat yourself in such a short sentence.

You can research it yourself.
I’m not sure why some posters cannot do this for themselves and need to be spoon fed information.

A poster denied that black people were disproportionately targeted by police, including stop and searches.
So multiple posters posted statistics that said otherwise.

Knife crime disproportionately affects inner cities and poorer areas, more than race.
If you go into a poor, inner city zone you are more likely to get stabbed by a white boy than a black boy in a more affluent area.
That is facts.

You are overlooking the fact that many poor, inner city areas are disproportionately likely to have non-white people living in them and therefore the statistics will show that non-white people have to deal with higher knife crime, even though we know it’s not due to race.

But statistically there are more white people murderers in this country - but being white doesn’t make you a higher risk for being a murderer.

Correlation doesn’t equal causation.

So it’s unconscious -they probably believed it.

And therein lies the madness of this woke batshittery.

they don’t mind young black men killing each other and being statistically over represented in knife crime, because calling it out would be racist, apparently. Woke is a cult. They sacrifice human life at the altar of this madness.

I am possibly going to fall into your Marxist category - though I’m not. But I live directly opposite a migrant hotel and am more than happy to do so. I never have recognised what people say of the actions of the majority of asylum claimants in the locality of the hotels.

Obviously, the murder of Rhiannon was despicable- as is Nowak’s - as was Everard’s - some people are despicable murderers but that doesn’t mean all their group are too.

This. It was the killer who made it about race. And the police who carried it on.

Of course any Jewish members of any protest and it’s counter protest would be in a minority of protesters/counter protesters. What an asinine thing to say.

We are only 0.5% of the population.