AIBU to feel deeply unsettled by the Southampton protest scenes?

[HopelessPessimist]

Southampton protest against police, huge crowd, Tommy Robinson whipping everyone into a frenzy and saying "this IS about race"

Other speakers declaring that England is a Christian country. The Lords Prayer chanted by every speaker. The leader of UKIP saying he will deport all migrants and make government Christian. The leaders of the protest saying they are being pushed by the police cordon, while the camera angle shows the police haven't moved. The leaders of the protest mocking the female police officer who are taking over a shift from another police officer in the cordon "They're replacing all the men with women!"

This is awful. It feels like the start of civil war. Maybe human beings just aren't supposed to go decades without a fight.

if we’re talking history, which crusades are you referring to?
But the far right are using the mechanisms in Christianity to draw people together to fight an enemy. It is literally what Christianity has been used for for nearly its entire existence. It’s clear you know nothing about Christianity or religion more widely or history. - can you actually formulate an argument?

This is absolutely irrelevant to what the poster was referring to - the woke training of her husband.

Well, you can't say you were not warned.

This anger has been building for years.

For someone with such a superior tone, none of what you posted with regards to stop and search mentions whether black men are disproportionately involved in street crime which I think they are. One of your pieces of "evidence" mentions that in 48% of cases no further action was taken which means in the majority it was. And since stop and search was reduced in London, knife crime has increased significantly. I personally think reducing knife crime is much more important than hurt feelings and sure the victims who are disproportionately black feel the same.

I can draw whatever argument or parallel I want so long as it's within community guidelines. Yes his death is what counts, as are all the circumstances surrounding it and its impact on the larger community.

But if you have eyes, you can see one person is on the floor & not looking too well…it might be worth doing a proper h&s check

One things for sure, things are going to change now..

This. All of it. The politicisation of pain is awful.

You’re not a serious person.

The right are forming a Christian army to fight “an enemy.”

To be clear. Is that enemy Muslims, or Sikhs? Because until.. I don’t know, today, I wasn’t aware the Sikhs were on their list.

Maybe they’ve written a new enemy list. Not sure, I’m not invited to their meetings.

I’m not sure it will. All we hear is “lessons will be learned”. Then the same thing happens again.

How so?

He was a retired cop telling as it is…
So he’s a liar now, I very much doubt it.

My point is. It’s an anomaly, it’s not the norm.

I mean, his family has specifically asked for his death not to be used to create further division. Yet here is Tommy Robinson and his bunch of pseudo-Christian roundabout painting, flag draping thuggish mates trying to weaponise his death to create further division. The OP is right to be unsettled.

So it is irrelevant to the statement the poster made that "ethnic minorities WERE given leniency by the courts"? I don't think so - it contradicts her husband's impression!

DEI initiatives and anti racist policing strategies being revisited, for one.

Agree, same old same old

So true re poor Rhiannon (I think that was a migrant hotel? the sort of hotel that is never in the vicinity of the middle class marxist warriors we encounter on MN).
And Southport barely merited a footnote in the PMs day- he later called protesters there bigots- is it any wonder these people are angry? I'm angry and I'm comfortable in my middle class enclave (just don't tell anyone around here I voted Tory at the last election- I'll be lynched by the bekinds!)
Kemi is so much better on all this- she absolutely wiped the floor with an Islamist Jew-Hater on a recent walk-about- I trust her in terms of Jewish safety, not that wanker Starmer!
We have Iranian friends who are big fans of Tommy Robinson and are completely bewildered by the apathy in this country towards the deaths meted out by the Islamic Regime- both very recently and historically (not to mention outright support for the IRGC by middle class muppets in this country)
Selective causes, indeed.

I will say that I don't view the killer as being in any way representative of Sikhs and I sincerely hope there are no repercussions for Sikhs. The killer is just some weird, probably racist little shit who knew he could use his colour to elicit police sympathy even when he'd stabbed a white boy- that is the problem.

I’m “unsettled” because the poor boys parents expressly said they didn’t want this to happen in his name. But I guess Farage got his riot after all then.

And in among it, the wrong policeman was named as involved so had now had to go into hiding with his family. It’s a total mess but we can do without these goons spreading division and hate. My thoughts are with Henry and his poor family.

What they've also not mentioned is it's just for 2024, whereas for the prior five years "there is no consistent pattern of significant differences in the odds of receiving a custodial sentence by ethnicity".

A possible cause is this: ": In the UK, pleading guilty early grants a sentence reduction of up to one-third. Statistical data shows White defendants consistently register the highest early guilty plea rates. Black and Asian defendants are statistically more likely to plead "not guilty," meaning they lose this automatic sentence reduction if convicted, driving up average sentence lengths"

The document also doesn't actually break down by crime.

The Southport killer was a Christian - does that aid your narrative?

Edit wrong seaside

Okay.

You carry on using Henry Nowak’s death to make points about Palestine and anti-Semitism, and we’ll all carry on talking about the actual situation.

What does the Nottingham inquiry have to do with this?

According to this article, doctors said race was not a factor in their decision not to detain the Nottingham killer:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj94x23l0gro

OP I live within 10 minutes walk of where Henry was murdered and my street is very multicultural - well I'm an ethnic minority - and its really quiet here.

Don't throw fuel on a tiny fire.

That’s completely irrelevant, which you know already

Do you mean the Southport killer?