AIBU to feel deeply unsettled by the Southampton protest scenes?

[HopelessPessimist]

Southampton protest against police, huge crowd, Tommy Robinson whipping everyone into a frenzy and saying "this IS about race"

Other speakers declaring that England is a Christian country. The Lords Prayer chanted by every speaker. The leader of UKIP saying he will deport all migrants and make government Christian. The leaders of the protest saying they are being pushed by the police cordon, while the camera angle shows the police haven't moved. The leaders of the protest mocking the female police officer who are taking over a shift from another police officer in the cordon "They're replacing all the men with women!"

This is awful. It feels like the start of civil war. Maybe human beings just aren't supposed to go decades without a fight.

That it happened "because he was white".

I think this is a terrible and misjudged comparison, as antisemitism is much more widespread than this type of incident.

Think about it this way: do Jewish people worry for their safety every time they meet non-Jewish people? Yes, it’s very likely. Jewish families have to tell their kids about the Holocaust - in which six million Jewish people were murdered - and remind them to look after themselves and avoid wearing anything marking them out as visibly Jewish every time they leave the house.

But do young white men worry for their safety every time they see a non-white man and a police officer? No.

What happened to Henry Nowak was horrific and completely unacceptable. But it is not comparable in any way to antisemitism.

Yeah thats actually true.

The white police officers racially profiled a white person??

Make it make sense.

If that was the case, they would assume that they themselves were racist because they were white too and therefore wouldn’t even worry about arresting the white male.

They were not racist towards Henry.
They did not racially profile him.

It invalidates people’s arguments when they claim the white police officers were being racist to the white victim.

What?

Well I am pleased to hear that

At last someone has acknowledged the elephant in the room!!
What sort of people would disrupt a vigil for a murdered young man?.....
Oh hang on.....

What a strange all around the houses post about something very simple that another poster wrote that you have taken and twisted into something else and made a mountain out of a molehill about! Talk about taking it out of context and making it into something it’s not!

So you don’t think black police officers can be racist towards black people..?

Youre being deliberately obtuse

If you hear an accusation of racism against a white person and, in spite of having zero proof (because thats what the officer had,), believe that its true blindly, dont interrogate it at all, then youre racially profiling

Because any white person called racist must be racist

Well this isn't bloody well helping those people. Imagine having this shit kicking off outside your home.

There is an issue with policing in this country, and that needs addressing with immediacy. Any bias in this case no doubt came about as a direct result of the decades of biased policing against the Black and other POC communities.

A young man has lost his life because of this, Tommy Robinson wading in is only going to cause more harm, fear, and division. The last thing anyone needs. We don't need to rise up against immigration or immigrants, we need to be holding those in power to account. We also need to address the real issue - male violence - which Tommy Robinson is very much a part of.

It is comparable in the sense that the underdog always has to be seen as brown. Why do you seem to have such a problem with anti-semitism being introduced to the thread? What I think is terrible and misjudged is the lack of empathy that Jews get and which is happening right here on this thread about Henry.

Here's a thought. The murderer is a very nasty person. Evil, disturbed. His victim a young man in the wrong place at the wrong time. The police, out of control.
Farage and SYL throwing petrol on a fire.

It’s not going all around the houses and it is not strange. It is showing that the comparison was really inappropriate.

Here we go.

You'll be able to provide me with evidence for it then?

They absolutely shouldn't have handcuffed him. They absolutely should of checked him over better for stab wounds and not just his back and then get distracted by the blood on his face. But i am understanding to the fact that we are talking about turning up to a scene with completely wrong information with 10 people standing there wrongly telling you the exact same version of events, no puddle of blood and only about 2 minutes before the poor lad died. I think its unfair to expect anyone to act perfectly im this situation. Yes police are trained but their still human.

Didn't Tommy take his name from a thug he admired?

Exactly this. Officers are human, this one made a mistake. No officer actively goes out allowing people to die. This officer's life is now in ruins, as is his families. How about more focused hate in the murderer rather than the officer

It’s sad to see a distortion of Christianity just used by people who are intolerant of other religions. They could do with reading the sermon on the mount. Same in the States where Christianity is being used to justify the most unchristian behaviour.
I don’t think the traditions of any religion should lead to exemptions from the law though (e.g. carrying knives). Perhaps something symbolic could replace it.

What happened is terrible and very distressing. The police involved need to be held responsible and police training needs to stress that EVERYONE should be treated without prejudice.

Stirring up division and hatred is helping no one.

You’re making a mistake suggesting that people who are angry at what happened to Henry are only those attending a protest. Same as the mistake made that only people marching behind Tommy Robinson would vote Reform at the local elections in May. They are millions who didn’t attend any protest today who are absolutely sickened by what they saw and heard yesterday.

You can’t compare antisemitism with Henry Nowak’s murder when they have no connection. Does antisemitism happen every day? Yes.

Is a white man murdered by a Sikh man every day whilst police believe the Sikh man’s racism accusations and don’t believe the white man? No, this is the first time it’s ever happened.

It’s just a really inappropriate and offensive comparison!

How dare you downplay what happened to this young man - the fact that he was white has everything to do with his death imo.

Am I the only one who thinks this video, whilst absolutely horrific (and the police officers involved must be held to account) is how black people are treated by the police ALL the time?