AIBU to feel deeply unsettled by the Southampton protest scenes?

[HopelessPessimist]

Southampton protest against police, huge crowd, Tommy Robinson whipping everyone into a frenzy and saying "this IS about race"

Other speakers declaring that England is a Christian country. The Lords Prayer chanted by every speaker. The leader of UKIP saying he will deport all migrants and make government Christian. The leaders of the protest saying they are being pushed by the police cordon, while the camera angle shows the police haven't moved. The leaders of the protest mocking the female police officer who are taking over a shift from another police officer in the cordon "They're replacing all the men with women!"

This is awful. It feels like the start of civil war. Maybe human beings just aren't supposed to go decades without a fight.

@HopelessPessimist is your thread going as expected?

They racially profiled Henry and the consequences mean an 18 year old lost his life.

Because it takes protests for action to be taken against police wrongdoings. No investigations are ever launched against police without protest. As we have seen time and time again.

@Broccolish has not indicated they are racist in any way. It is not racist to care about white young men.

Just another example of how certain incidents are being dismissed.

You think white officers racially profiled white Novak? Racially profiled as what exactly? I think it’s more likely they racially profiled the Sikh man and decided a “peaceful, law-abiding Sikh man) would never do such a thing.

Unfortunately far too many mistakes are made by the police. They need to clean their act up.

Absolutely agree with this. It’s just as egregious when it’s a white person or any other colour person in the context of police failures.

The policing here was incredibly poor, the empathy non existent, the level of disbelief palpable and shocking. Those are the features of this case that make it deplorable.

Unbelievable isn't it?

He was only dragged across the ground - so that makes everything ok 🙄

Going forward I really do think that Keir Starmer and his government should call time on the allowed carrying of ceremonial weapons.
It is absurd that anyone is permitted to carry a ceremonial knife given the huge influx of knife crime in this country.
Double standards.

No excuse for violent protests, but when people have ongoing legitimate concerns over policing and other societal issues and the powers that be label them as racists, bigots, far right, etc. Having Starmer take the knee for George Floyd - an American criminal- and say nothing until recently about Henry Novak, an innocent 18 year old man murdered in this country, it will inevitably lead to protests and worse as the feeling is that no one is listening except the Farages and Robinsons.

If one or some of the police officers on the scene had been BAME, the outcome for Henry would have been likely different. The white cops are petrified of being accused of racism. The unconscious bias training has gone too far.

Who is ‘they’?

You’ve mentioned football in your post, so by ‘they’, I’m guessing you mean the England football team.

They discussed taking the knee and they really wanted fo do it because it was important to them, and lots has been reported on this. No one made them do it.

I’m confused why people think that white people can’t be racist towards white people? Anyone can be racist towards anyone, even if they’re the same race. Women can be misogynistic, gay people can’t be homophobic etc

The race of the officers and victim doesn’t automatically rule out racial bias. The question is whether race or ethnicity influenced how the people involved were perceived or treated.. which clearly it did

The one he stabbed him with is not the one they are allowed to carry.

This person is on the wind up. Suggesting they wouldn’t be upset about the police disrespecting and mocking their dying child sealed it for me.

How do you help someone you can't get to if they are between a car and a wall

Source?

Although what does that have to do with white police officers apparently profiling a young white man?

Again never said that

How did they help him? They handcuffed him, ignored his pleas and he died.

Can someone explain to me how throwing glass bottles at the police which is currently whats happening, help this situation

I've reported and suggest others do too.

No one can be that inhumane.

I'm not any authority on the matter, especially as we live over the other side of the country from where these incidents took place, but I presumed that many of the attacks and incidents between those from the Muslim and Jewish communities in London were due to increasing tensions because of the Israeli/Palestine conflict which had then spilled over to the UK because of family members/ supporting those of the same faith. (Only presumed that as we had been warned in safeguarding briefing to be aware of potential tensions between students of different faiths...although, thankfully, nothing has happened so far on that front as yet.)

Aside from any tensions between any faith community (such as the antisemitism or islamophobia) racist and misogynistic abuse has also been on the rise so there has been a definite 'shift' towards aggressive and hateful abuse towards others. I don't know what it will take for the tide to turn again, so I do understand why the OP feels 'unsettled' as I feel it too. Just the constant undercurrent of tension in society and local communities.

They assumed because he was white that he had to be guilty of the racism accusations. They saw a young white man and decided he was the problem.

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