AIBU to feel deeply unsettled by the Southampton protest scenes?

[HopelessPessimist]

Southampton protest against police, huge crowd, Tommy Robinson whipping everyone into a frenzy and saying "this IS about race"

Other speakers declaring that England is a Christian country. The Lords Prayer chanted by every speaker. The leader of UKIP saying he will deport all migrants and make government Christian. The leaders of the protest saying they are being pushed by the police cordon, while the camera angle shows the police haven't moved. The leaders of the protest mocking the female police officer who are taking over a shift from another police officer in the cordon "They're replacing all the men with women!"

This is awful. It feels like the start of civil war. Maybe human beings just aren't supposed to go decades without a fight.

Because it wasn’t “a couple of officers”. It was countless.

I think it's simply that it's on the doorstep, in streets I recognise, it makes it feel much closer and more intimidating than when it happens in Southport or London. I guess that's horrible to admit and I've been a bit sheltered. I just keep imagining how I'd feel to have all this happening outside my house, but to be fair residents have been coming out and joining in so they are supporting it.

I'm actually so glad that the US police all wear bodycams now. Every time peole have tried to stir up another BLM/Floyd situation, they just release them and problem solved.

Have you heard the 999 call that is the information they have before they get there. When they arrive they have about 10 people telling them the same story within minutes Henry was dead. Its odd to me and I assume the police that someone who has been stabbed four times isn't laying in a pool full of blood but he wasnt and I think that is what caused so much confusion

I refer you to my question I asked another poster. What did the BLM riots have to do with what happened to Floyd? You seem to be painting those riots as something of value to be distinguished from protests about a white boy being negligently treated by UK police.

I don’t understand what you’re saying - what do we have to shut up and tolerate?

Also, I think @SleeplessInWherever is agreeing with you! I think Sleepless is saying that Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage are not welcome because they are using these awful incidents (Southport, Henry Nowak’s murder) to score political points and create more division. They are doing the same thing that the Southport attacker and Henry Nowak’s murderer wanted to do.

Most people don’t know what is and most companies will merrily continue with DEI initiatives, like my own. And DEI and never has been about race exclusively or police making ethnically biased decisions. Quite the opposite.

One of the officers said 'I dont think so mate' when he said repeatedly he was stabbed. What inhumane bastard that officer is. Disgraceful.

Is she at home? She’ll probably be ok. What’s worrying you.

people that prey on others' grief are pretty low. Almost as bad are the grief tourists, talking about this lad as if they knew him. Sad

The NIMBY mentality. Explains it all.

What i find unsettling is our police seem to be ideologically captured and unable to police without fear or favour and who decide who is the victim in a crime before investigation or evidence and who don't seem to be able to prioritise the preservation of life .
Do i worry about civil unrest as a result of the above ...yes.
Do i agree with everything TR and his supporters says...no,do i respect their right to say what they say..yes.
Aubu to feel unsettled no,its understandable.

The family is clear they will not accept religious right to carrying a knife aspect of this. It was an excellent speech, he got the point across loud and clear. He toned that part right down but his hand gesture was clear, he said:

We need stronger action on the sale, the ownership and carrying of all knives
and as this case so painfully demonstrates, we need common sense applied to our laws [...] People should not be able to walk openly through the streets of Britain carrying a 21cm blade. As a family we will not let this go.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq8pn9ng5zlo

You’ll be fine. I doubt your neighbours are running around with machetes and getting their families to cover up their brutal crimes for them.

Yet we were all expected to take the knee for a man in another country. You couldn't make this bollocks up that's been spouted today. Anything to deny a major problem.

Yes

I’m sorry. I understand it must feel quite scary.

Although I’ve lived in London for years now, I’ve never had anything like that happen to me, and I think I’d be scared too.

I genuinely think nothing will happen though. Our police officers are generally very good - apart from in the cases everyone has just been discussing.

Ok because the OP’s child wasn’t murdered she’s not allowed to feel unsettled by violence?

A (white) friend of mine ran from her mums house in Middlesbrough in 2024, with her at the time 2 and 4 year old sons. She couldn’t drive out of the street, the “patriots” had set up a human road block.

The cars on the street were being petrol bombed, because the area has a large muslim
population so the ahem “concerned citizens” were indiscriminately setting things on fire.

So yes. NIMBY, thank you. It’s not like people who protest with/for Stephen Yaxley-Lennon don’t have form.

And there is zero evidence of systemic police racism towards white people in the UK. None.

I think there is growing evidence that there is systemic racism towards white working class girls who've been dragged into large family and community-run rape gangs all across the country.

An officer who comes across lying nasty criminals every day in his job. An officer who thought (had been told and didn't question) that the white man was the racist aggressor to the poor brown people, because he's been indoctrinated by a 2 tier policing system. Which has been enforced by the gvt.

She's fine, she's nowhere near this but we are staying on the phone watching it on YouTube. To be fair to the protestors, when they claim main stream media doesn't cover them they're right, the only way to see what's happening is YouTube. But the wider disorder worries me, and because it's on streets I know it feels weird and too close

Please will people stop saying this. HN told the police he had been stabbed. His words matter, not just the other people’s.

Nothing to see here folks. It's only a young promising white boy who's the victim. Just like the shit the Jewish community have to put up with. You wouldn't mind but the very people who tell everyone else they are racist have shown fk all empathy over 3 threads today.

Nine times he told the police he couldn't breathe

Four times he told them he'd been stabbed

The response, "i dont think you have mate"