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AIBU to confront workmen about stealing my engagement ring?

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Marooney · Today 09:15

TLDR- workmen are only people who could have taken my engagement ring, do I confront them?

Need some urgent advice please-

We’ve had 2 workmen here for several days repairing the patio. They don’t need access to the house and come in and out the side passage which leads directly to the garden from outside. One of the men has done several jobs with/for DP over the years, let’s call him Bob, the other guy is an assistant DP doesn’t know.

On Monday night DP left my new engagement ring in its box on a table near the front door as he was going to take it to have a small adjustment done, however on Tuesday morning he forgot and on Wednesday noticed it wasn’t there. He assumed I’d taken it but I hadn’t and there’s no one else in the house, no cleaner or visitors, no one. We live in a rural area and I haven’t always been locking the front door when I pop out on errands as the builders are around - I never thought they themselves might be a risk- and it’s a cul-de-sac so no one passes by except one middle aged neighbour who we’re friendly with, walking her dog. Our Ring doorbell has not recorded any stranger entering our front gate.

We don’t know what to do. Obviously we can’t accuse with no proof, but it seems clear that one of them has taken it. My only idea so far is to have a word with Bob, ask him a bit about the other guy and how long he’s known him etc then say a ring has gone missing and we’d rather sort it out now than look through days of Ring camera footage (we have cameras but unfortunately not in that area, but he doesn’t need to know that). That way at least we’d be implying to Bob that we don’t think it’s him. Incidentally, DP hasn’t categorically said that it couldn’t be Bob.

Any suggestions gratefully received!

OP posts:
Marooney · Today 19:14

itsaffafine · Today 18:46

Can I ask when you leave the house with the baby do you put your jacket and shoes/take the pram out the front door? Could you have inadvertently knocked the ring box off the ledge with your jacket? It could have fallen into the pram or the shopping tray underneath. Are shoes kept there? It could have fallen off into a shoe maybe. Into the nappy bag/your handbag? Could it be in your front garden? Maybe knocked it outside with the pram or your foot whilst going out the door.
Hope you find it. Please update as I’m really invested!

No not really, but I have been and continue to look all over

OP posts:
shuggles · Today 19:15

He looks dodgy as fuck.

I'm in the "workman is a thief" camp.

RafaFan · Today 19:16

So the ring was placed on the ledge the night before. Your husband can't confirm that it definitely was there in the morning - because if he had seen it, he would have picked it up and taken it with him as planned. You were never aware of it being there at all. Could something have happened to it overnight?

AppleDumplingWithCustard · Today 19:18

When I was nursing on a surgical ward we would lock patient’s jewellery in a small cupboard having itemised it on a form when they were going to theatres. One woman, on her return from theatre asked a nurse for her jewellery back. Nurse went to cupboard and there was nothing there for that particular patient. Patient raised merry hell as it had most definitely been locked away, calling us all thieves for stealing her multiple gold rings, bracelets etc. and demanding we call the police. When her husband turned up he informed her he had taken her jewellery home for safe keeping. We didn’t get one word of apology.

Piglet89 · Today 19:18

OP: did you tell Bob you have indoor camera footage that you do not, in fact, have?

Ophy83 · Today 19:18

It's possible it was the workman but the amethyst brooch story in Anne of Green Gables does spring to mind... check all bags/coats etc.

Whattodo1610 · Today 19:18

Marooney · Today 19:12

I would love that too!
It wasn’t my DP because regardless of his personal attributes he was out all of Tuesday when it went missing, I must have written this ten times now.
It could have been Bob yeah, but we don’t think so, so the most likely is still Bob’s friend but Bob’s reaction has made us less sure. Nothing much to be done really

I know you’ve written it many times .. but already there’s been discrepancies over the actual day .. left Tuesday noticed Wednesday, then actually no, noticed Tuesday, then back to Wednesday 🤷‍♀️
We all at times think we remember things exactly, but in actual fact, we don’t. 🤷‍♀️

Whattodo1610 · Today 19:21

RafaFan · Today 19:16

So the ring was placed on the ledge the night before. Your husband can't confirm that it definitely was there in the morning - because if he had seen it, he would have picked it up and taken it with him as planned. You were never aware of it being there at all. Could something have happened to it overnight?

Or he thought about taking it and meant to put it there the night before, but didn’t. In his head/memory, is convinced he did actually put it there. I do this regularly. I know I’ve done something, but actually in reality, I haven’t. But in my head I can absolutely remember doing it 🤷‍♀️

Marooney · Today 19:22

Whattodo1610 · Today 19:18

I know you’ve written it many times .. but already there’s been discrepancies over the actual day .. left Tuesday noticed Wednesday, then actually no, noticed Tuesday, then back to Wednesday 🤷‍♀️
We all at times think we remember things exactly, but in actual fact, we don’t. 🤷‍♀️

No not back to Wednesday. I originally thought Wednesday as that’s when he asked me if I’d moved it, but today I called him to clarify the timeline. It was Tuesday morning when he left without it and realised soon after while driving, and and Tuesday evening when he got back and immediately saw it wasn’t there. There was no time for him to have moved it as he wasn’t there!

OP posts:
Whattodo1610 · Today 19:22

Piglet89 · Today 19:18

OP: did you tell Bob you have indoor camera footage that you do not, in fact, have?

Correct, that’s what OP has done.

Marooney · Today 19:23

Whattodo1610 · Today 19:22

Correct, that’s what OP has done.

I said that we might have, was hazy on details. Can’t see an issue with that, if they’re guilty then lying to make them return it is obviously justified, if they’re innocent what possible difference could it make

OP posts:
EgregiouslyOverdressed · Today 19:25

How valuable and distinctive is the ring?

Whattodo1610 · Today 19:28

Marooney · Today 19:23

I said that we might have, was hazy on details. Can’t see an issue with that, if they’re guilty then lying to make them return it is obviously justified, if they’re innocent what possible difference could it make

Edited

Not might have. You definitely did tell him this, as He actually looked mortified but insisted it couldn’t have been his friend, and urged us several times to check our (non-existent) indoor camera footage. I made up an excuse about having to download it from the cloud etc. so he still thinks we’ll be able to confirm who it was at some point.
To be fair, I agree, no harm in telling him this little white lie. But I honestly think it’s going to turn up somewhere unexpected in your house.

BigAnne · Today 19:39

Marooney · Today 19:22

No not back to Wednesday. I originally thought Wednesday as that’s when he asked me if I’d moved it, but today I called him to clarify the timeline. It was Tuesday morning when he left without it and realised soon after while driving, and and Tuesday evening when he got back and immediately saw it wasn’t there. There was no time for him to have moved it as he wasn’t there!

When your husband realised he had forgotten the ring he should have phoned you so that you could have put it somewhere safe.

Besos1 · Today 19:42

If they didn't use the front door, how would they know the box was there?

cssurvivor · Today 19:44

Do you mean the ex child minder that was inciting violence.

HalzTangz · Today 19:55

Surely if you left the door unlocked an then think the builders came in the house, you would see them enter through the unlocked door on the camera

HalzTangz · Today 19:58

Marooney · Today 19:12

I would love that too!
It wasn’t my DP because regardless of his personal attributes he was out all of Tuesday when it went missing, I must have written this ten times now.
It could have been Bob yeah, but we don’t think so, so the most likely is still Bob’s friend but Bob’s reaction has made us less sure. Nothing much to be done really

It could still be your partner, he may have picked it up and put in his pocket without thinking, then it's fell out of his pocket whilst out

DressOrSkirt · Today 20:00

Marooney · Today 19:12

I would love that too!
It wasn’t my DP because regardless of his personal attributes he was out all of Tuesday when it went missing, I must have written this ten times now.
It could have been Bob yeah, but we don’t think so, so the most likely is still Bob’s friend but Bob’s reaction has made us less sure. Nothing much to be done really

But you don't know that is was Tuesday when it went missing. It was Monday evening when your partner thinks they put it on the table. Maybe they put it somewhere else or forgot to move it at all? Or maybe something happened to it between the evening and the morning?

Strawcolouredx · Today 20:00

Marooney · Today 11:57

Thanks for your replies everyone. Amazed at the number of people assuming a workman wouldn’t steal. My DP is not absent-minded at all, I absolutely believe he put it where he says and hasn’t moved it, as for me I didn’t even see it (I’m very unobservant! Also possibly not there long before it was swiped). I have nevertheless thoroughly searched the whole area.

Re the Ring camera, it does actually cover the front door (exterior) and the side passage so I can see them going in and out and they don’t appear to have entered the front door, but they could have entered the house from the sliding doors into the living room which have been open at some point.

Unfortunately today is the last day and I think it’s only Bob coming to clean up and collect payment - it’s possible his assistant is someone he hired just for this job and has now disappeared into the sunset

Haven’t read the full thread but just wanted to say I’m certainly not assuming he wouldn’t steal. It can happen.

One stole my earrings that were given to me by my grandma. They were of sentimental value and quite expensive too as pure gold.

I was fuming at my mum, she had the worst judgment when employing tradesmen and there was always some mishap, plus despite all that she didn’t supervise them at all.

This happened while I was away at university and I came back to find them missing from my jewellery box after she had apparently done some redecoration done in my bedroom which was completely unnecessary . my mum was like oh well ffs 🤦🏽‍♀️ if I’d known she was doing that I’d have taken the jewellery box with me.

XelaM · Today 20:01

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Today 09:57

I’d be surprised if workmen took it to be honest.

A workman stile my Apple AirPods. They were on the table when I left the workmen alone. Then they disappeared 😞

For an engagement ring and only 2 workmen, I would involve the police!

Deadleaves77 · Today 20:04

Marooney · Today 19:12

I would love that too!
It wasn’t my DP because regardless of his personal attributes he was out all of Tuesday when it went missing, I must have written this ten times now.
It could have been Bob yeah, but we don’t think so, so the most likely is still Bob’s friend but Bob’s reaction has made us less sure. Nothing much to be done really

He wasn't out all day when it went missing though was he?

He's the one who put it on the ledge, no one else can verify it was there. He's the one who then says it's missing. It was last seen when he was in the house, it went missing at some point from when he put it on the ledge Monday night.

Realistically it sounds unlikely to be the builder. Would the builder have known it was there, as he didn't go through the front door at any point? He was sneaking through the house to the porch to look for valuables randomly left in a porch? That's pretty risky, and if Bob was surprised there's no known history of theft

Given the fact your DH forgot to take the ring, left it by an unlocked door all day and then didn't even think to ask where it had gone when he got home he doesn't sound the most organised of people. Most people would be pretty panicked to find a ring they'd left out by an open door had gone missing

User1839423790 · Today 20:07

Marooney · Today 11:49

We have contents insurance but it won’t cover theft if there’s no forced entry!

Are you sure? If you say you were at home it should.

caringcarer · Today 20:10

Is it insured?

justasking111 · Today 20:16

Do you have a photo of it you could email pawn brokers.

Happened in our village a casual labourer working with a contractor came back alone after the job was finished and burgled them. Luckily the neighbours recognise the van and he was caught.

It's a horrible thing to happen. I'm sorry OP