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AIBU to confront workmen about stealing my engagement ring?

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Marooney · Today 09:15

TLDR- workmen are only people who could have taken my engagement ring, do I confront them?

Need some urgent advice please-

We’ve had 2 workmen here for several days repairing the patio. They don’t need access to the house and come in and out the side passage which leads directly to the garden from outside. One of the men has done several jobs with/for DP over the years, let’s call him Bob, the other guy is an assistant DP doesn’t know.

On Monday night DP left my new engagement ring in its box on a table near the front door as he was going to take it to have a small adjustment done, however on Tuesday morning he forgot and on Wednesday noticed it wasn’t there. He assumed I’d taken it but I hadn’t and there’s no one else in the house, no cleaner or visitors, no one. We live in a rural area and I haven’t always been locking the front door when I pop out on errands as the builders are around - I never thought they themselves might be a risk- and it’s a cul-de-sac so no one passes by except one middle aged neighbour who we’re friendly with, walking her dog. Our Ring doorbell has not recorded any stranger entering our front gate.

We don’t know what to do. Obviously we can’t accuse with no proof, but it seems clear that one of them has taken it. My only idea so far is to have a word with Bob, ask him a bit about the other guy and how long he’s known him etc then say a ring has gone missing and we’d rather sort it out now than look through days of Ring camera footage (we have cameras but unfortunately not in that area, but he doesn’t need to know that). That way at least we’d be implying to Bob that we don’t think it’s him. Incidentally, DP hasn’t categorically said that it couldn’t be Bob.

Any suggestions gratefully received!

OP posts:
SuziQuinto · Today 17:17

Marooney · Today 17:08

Right, Bob has come back to finish up and we’ve talked to him. He was visibly shocked and says he’s been friends with the guy for 25 years and he’s very honourable and shy and never even steps into people's homes when working outside, it’s true neither of them asked to use the loo or for water or tools or anything (I did offer). He actually looked mortified but insisted it couldn’t have been his friend, and urged us several times to check our (non-existent) indoor camera footage. I made up an excuse about having to download it from the cloud etc. so he still thinks we’ll be able to confirm who it was at some point. Honestly he was very convincing and we don’t know what to think. I showed him the photo and he laughed and said “that’s a drink” as I suspected it could be.

Just for good measure we did thoroughly search DP’s van and it’s definitely not there, we also looked at the footage of DP leaving for work that day and he was empty-handed.

To everyone insisting DP lost it, he wasn’t at home during the time between leaving it on the table and returning to see it gone so he simply couldn’t have, despite being a fallible human.

The police are not going to be remotely interested but I might report it anyway as apparently pawn brokers have to send police daily lists of their new items so they can check them off against stolen goods.

So the image shows your partner leaving empty handed? Did he pick it up, then put it elsewhere and forgot?

fantam · Today 17:17

Did you see it on the table yourself before DP left?

frumpydump · Today 17:18

Marooney · Today 17:08

Right, Bob has come back to finish up and we’ve talked to him. He was visibly shocked and says he’s been friends with the guy for 25 years and he’s very honourable and shy and never even steps into people's homes when working outside, it’s true neither of them asked to use the loo or for water or tools or anything (I did offer). He actually looked mortified but insisted it couldn’t have been his friend, and urged us several times to check our (non-existent) indoor camera footage. I made up an excuse about having to download it from the cloud etc. so he still thinks we’ll be able to confirm who it was at some point. Honestly he was very convincing and we don’t know what to think. I showed him the photo and he laughed and said “that’s a drink” as I suspected it could be.

Just for good measure we did thoroughly search DP’s van and it’s definitely not there, we also looked at the footage of DP leaving for work that day and he was empty-handed.

To everyone insisting DP lost it, he wasn’t at home during the time between leaving it on the table and returning to see it gone so he simply couldn’t have, despite being a fallible human.

The police are not going to be remotely interested but I might report it anyway as apparently pawn brokers have to send police daily lists of their new items so they can check them off against stolen goods.

Congrats on ending someone’s career over a baseless accusation because you don’t want to admit your DP has lost the ring

Ethelspagetti · Today 17:20

The police won’t do anything unless you have evidence e.g. you’ve seen them or it’s on camera. I went through something similar and knew who it was as she was the only person who had access to the house. It was shut down by the police.

SuziQuinto · Today 17:22

Also, OP pawnbrokers do not have to send the police lists of newly acquired items. Can you imagine?
They have to take ID of people selling so that they have a record of where the items came from.

pigmygoatsinjumpers · Today 17:26

I think you should take the photo down. Someone might recognise this individual from his clothing.

frumpydump · Today 17:27

pigmygoatsinjumpers · Today 17:26

I think you should take the photo down. Someone might recognise this individual from his clothing.

OP doesn’t care. She thinks a picture of him gripping a tool belt is enough to determine he’s stolen the ring! Despite nothing else being missing or her having any suspicion of anything else missing. She’s just perfectly happy to lead a pile on.

Marooney · Today 17:36

frumpydump · Today 17:18

Congrats on ending someone’s career over a baseless accusation because you don’t want to admit your DP has lost the ring

Eh?? No one’s career is ended, didn’t you read what I said?

I don’t know what happened to the ring but it definitely wasn’t lost by DP as he wasn’t at home when it disappeared!

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frumpydump · Today 17:37

Marooney · Today 17:36

Eh?? No one’s career is ended, didn’t you read what I said?

I don’t know what happened to the ring but it definitely wasn’t lost by DP as he wasn’t at home when it disappeared!

He very obviously took it with him and lost it but doesn’t want to admit it.

PunnyPlumPanda · Today 17:37

Marooney · Today 11:57

Thanks for your replies everyone. Amazed at the number of people assuming a workman wouldn’t steal. My DP is not absent-minded at all, I absolutely believe he put it where he says and hasn’t moved it, as for me I didn’t even see it (I’m very unobservant! Also possibly not there long before it was swiped). I have nevertheless thoroughly searched the whole area.

Re the Ring camera, it does actually cover the front door (exterior) and the side passage so I can see them going in and out and they don’t appear to have entered the front door, but they could have entered the house from the sliding doors into the living room which have been open at some point.

Unfortunately today is the last day and I think it’s only Bob coming to clean up and collect payment - it’s possible his assistant is someone he hired just for this job and has now disappeared into the sunset

Unless you have absolute proof you cannot accuse someone of theft.

TheWickerWoman · Today 17:38

But why would he carry a drink like that?

I agree it’s the right size but it’s not how you’d carry one.

KidsDoBetter · Today 17:38

Marooney · Today 17:36

Eh?? No one’s career is ended, didn’t you read what I said?

I don’t know what happened to the ring but it definitely wasn’t lost by DP as he wasn’t at home when it disappeared!

Exactly. You asked in a nice way. Certainly Bob didn't do it. Its normally really obvious if someone is lying.

I think it will turn up somewhere really odd

Marooney · Today 17:39

frumpydump · Today 17:27

OP doesn’t care. She thinks a picture of him gripping a tool belt is enough to determine he’s stolen the ring! Despite nothing else being missing or her having any suspicion of anything else missing. She’s just perfectly happy to lead a pile on.

This is quite mad. Reading comprehension on this thread at an all-time low. It’s not a tool belt, he was holding a drink under his shirt as I suspected was a possibility. No one is being identified or losing their job. I can assure you that 0% of these people’s acquaintances even know what Mumsnet is nor speak English, we are not in the UK.

OP posts:
fantam · Today 17:39

TheWickerWoman · Today 17:38

But why would he carry a drink like that?

I agree it’s the right size but it’s not how you’d carry one.

Cooling his bare belly in the heat...

KidsDoBetter · Today 17:39

It is a really odd way to carry a drink even in hot weather.

Marooney · Today 17:40

TheWickerWoman · Today 17:38

But why would he carry a drink like that?

I agree it’s the right size but it’s not how you’d carry one.

To cool himself down, I’ve done it myself which is why I thought it might be that!

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Superhansrantowindsor · Today 17:41

Think about this logically.
The workman and assistant won’t know who comes into your house or not. They would be absolutely stupid to nick something when there was a possibility that nobody ever came into the house thus making them prime suspects. If you had different teams of people in at the same time- that’s different. The electrician could blame the plumber, the plumber blame the plasterer etc.
It Is far too risky for them in this particular situation to pinch something where their reputation via social media and reviews could be in absolute tatters.
loads of us have stories where we were absolutely convinced we had left something somewhere but actually it was elsewhere.

Pinkacer · Today 17:41

We got burgled once when we had just had workmen in for the last day, having been at home during the course of the work, but were out the night of the burglary. I think having work done attracts attention from dodgy types whose antennae look for security lapses. They were probably in our house for 15 minutes max.

PunnyPlumPanda · Today 17:41

Marooney · Today 13:26

The point is the lack of evidence.. I never said I was going to claim on insurance but if I was it would be for loss not theft as there is no evidence any crime has been committed, a fact I am well aware of but which doesn’t diminish my conviction that it was them. I know I can’t accuse without proof and also know that the police would not waste their time on this. If you’re so annoyed why not try another thread 🤗

I mean insurance is for lost items too

my mums friend had a £300,000 ring. (It was ugly!)

she lost it and claimed it on insurance.

Northbynorthbest · Today 17:42

I'd be more inclined to think your partner misplaced / lost it but doesn't want to admit it.

Marooney · Today 17:42

frumpydump · Today 17:37

He very obviously took it with him and lost it but doesn’t want to admit it.

“Very obviously”? Amazing the comments people make on mumsnet whilst not knowing anything at all about the person. He absolutely did not lose it 🤣 Sorry for you if your loved ones behave like that but def not DP’s style

OP posts:
Joliefolie · Today 17:42

All you can do is check every inch of your home, all of DH's pockets of any clothing he'd been wearing since you gave him the ring and if it doesn't show up, you accept that you and DH were very careless but worse things happen in life.

Marooney · Today 17:44

Joliefolie · Today 17:42

All you can do is check every inch of your home, all of DH's pockets of any clothing he'd been wearing since you gave him the ring and if it doesn't show up, you accept that you and DH were very careless but worse things happen in life.

Worse things happen yes. I don’t think I was careless in this instance as I had no idea the ring was even there.

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KidsDoBetter · Today 17:44

Would it have fitted in your fiances pocket? Might he have put it in there whilst up early? Or was the box too big for that? Check the pathway and area around the van?

Joliefolie · Today 17:45

Going out without securing you home is careless.

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