If you are Reform are you ok with this repulsive man potentially becoming an MP and representing women in parliament?

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Robert Kenyon, the “cheeky local chappie” who is standing for Reform in Makerfield is on record as making some shockingly sexist comments and statements. Reform are standing by him.

Can I ask the women on here who are Reform voters if they are ok with the him remaining a candidate given what I cite below. Btw I am absolutely not, but I’m not and never will be a Reform voter for a variety of reasons.

1. Retweeting a post about performing a (graphic description) of a sexual act on Carol Voderman.
2. He has attacked women as being promiscuous and accused them of taking any decision to have an abortion lightly. He wrote, “reproductive rights, women's rights, they can dress it up all they want.
3. They're deciding to kill a baby inside the womb. What they mean is they want to shag anyone they want. And if they get caught, they get a second chance and treat it as a secondary, last form of contraception.”

Either you think this is ok (don’t understand how anyone let alone a woman could be ok with it) or presumably you’ll be contacting Tice and Farage etc to drop him.

Interested in your thoughts.

And that makes voting for Kenyon alright?

The 'I don't care' posts are at least honest.

Unfortunately some are defending him as it’s only banter - he has a lot of support

Stop the boats. Stop the scapegoating. Bastards.

I think this type of bants appeals to the " we can't even sing ba ba blacksheep " types and the "nobody is listening, we want our country back" types.

Interesting perspective. I don’t have particularly strong feelings about Burnham. Clearly he’s liked (in Labour circles) more than Starmer. But as a person I can’t think of anything he’s said that is offensive (although granted you may not like his politics).

Getting rid of Labour after 2 years does seem a bit like the football teams who change managers like socks…. Any party can promise the moon, but if Reform get in, it will be interesting to see how they deliver. And whether divisions in the country continue to deepen.

No mention of LibDems?

I don’t live there so no skin in the game. But I really don’t think a sexist misogynist has a place anywhere near parliament.

She didn't dodge tax. She referred herself to get a definitive answer as she was getting different pieces of advice.
It is a very complex situation as she was trying to put her former house in trust for her disabled son so he would always have a secure place to live. (He was born very prematurely and is blind.) I believe she and her former partner take turns living there to care for him.

OP if you're genuinely interested in the perspectives of others (and not just wanting to have a go a Reform voters on MN because you don't have access to the actual Reform MPs) - this is my view.

I've never voted Reform and I doubt I ever will. But this is ALL about immigration.

Services are stretched to the limit in this country, schools and the NHS are overwhelmed, police don't come out to burglaries etc etc - you know the issues. Meanwhile, we hear daily about the cost of processing asylum seekers, housing them, providing immigrants with life's necessities while taking years to decide if they're allowed to stay here. Court/prison costs of punishing immigrant criminals, as if we didn't have enough home grown ones.

Rightly or wrongly people associate their own lack of money/services with immigrants and asylum seekers, and they don't like it. And the only party who seem to take this issue seriously is Reform.

Most Reform voters don't actually know any of their other policies. But even if they knew and disliked them, they're prepared to make the sacrifice, to reduce immigration.

Successive governments have ignored this massive issue. It was the undoing of the Tories, and it'll be the undoing of Labour too.

The important difference is that the Greens stood their candidate down after his vile anti semiticism. Farage has backed Kenyon dismissing his remarks as banter.
You get rogue candidates across the board, and I'm fair minded enough not to tar their entire party with the same brush. Unfortunately when the party leader fails to consider it an issue, and reaffirms support despite it, it tells you the problem isn't just one man, but the whole culture of the party.

I didn’t say anything about support.
I said he knows what a woman is -which is more than Andy Burnham or whoever represents the Greens.
Or the Lib Dem’s.
By knowing what a woman is -one would assume - that he supports women’s sex based spaces/jails/hospital wards/sports/refuges would be for women only which frankly is a huge win compared to the other parties.
I could never and will never vote for a candidate or party who supports men accessing women’s spaces or services. Ever.

I must say I always thought she was a Tory, not a Reform supporter.

I am. I'm bashing Labour - I don't want Andy Burnham to win.

I only found the Josh Simons article today. Similarly, I didn't know Conor McGinn's constituency was the neighbouring one to Makerfield until today.

*But surely if the info becomes available before an representative is elected, it should be acted upon?

And yet Labour still chose Josh Simons as their candidate in 2024 (the outgoing Labour MP for Makerfield now).

So, since the Tories stand no chance , you'd rather Kenyon win?

No idea how anyone can be a Conservative supporter after what they did to this country.

Is antisemitism the only prejudice you care about? I have seen your posts on various threads and you do this a lot. Why? This one is about misogyny yet you turn it round to antisemitism. You do it every time. Why not be against all kinds of prejudice, like most decent people?

Farage himself is against later abortion, no matter the risk to mothers

When did Farage say 'no matter the risk to mothers'?

I live in the Makerfield constituency, and as a woman and mother of daughters the thought of Robert Kenyon being our MP terrifies me. Imagine contacting him with concerns and issues as a woman when this is how he feels about them. The man doesn't even live in Makerfield like he states, nor was he born here, another lie. The lies from him just keep racking up now he's been rumbled about not actually ever being in the army.

Nah, just the usual pile on by all the posters who are on every Reform thread. There are some sad bastards who do nothing but think about Reform. It's like no other party has bad apples.

I guess so - I wouldn't mind a Lib Dem.

So what are you suggesting? That because the Labour candidate said four years ago he believed women who objected to biological men in their spaces were a minority, and has since said his opinion has changed, we should talk only about that, and not discuss the disgusting misogyny of the Reform candidate, or indeed, the anti semiticism of the former Green candidate?

Clearly nobody’s told Reform voters that net migration is now at its lowest level since 2012. Or that the party that preceded the current government decimated public services through lack of investment. The wrong people are being blamed here.

The other parties do have bad apples, but they get rid of them, usually. Plus this one is particularly rotten.

Kenyon is clearly an utterly repellent disgrace of a man who isn't fit to fill the office of MP. It beggars belief that anybody could vote for him

I'm feeling quite thankful I don't live in Makerfield. Imagine having to choose between the vile misogyny and racism of Reform, the misogyny and antisemitism of the Greens, the misogyny and all-round cluster fuck of this inept current iteration of Labour, and the misogynist Lib Dems.

As a centre Left voter I would find myself in the extraordinary position of coming to the conclusion that currently the Tories under Kemi look like the best bet. Yet they were a disaster in government and I've never voted Tory in my life....

Our current political landscape is the absolute worst - by far - that I've ever known it. At a time when we need top-tier calibre politicians to get us out of the mire we're in, against a backdrop of difficult global circumstances.

What a time to be alive.

Stop the boats

BBC
Almost 1,000 migrants crossed the English Channel over the bank holiday weekend.

I mostly agree with you on this
and reform has made it clear that they won’t rejoin the Eu
and seeing that Spain just gave 500k illegal immigrates a “ temporary visa “ that’s another reason for many to vote reform

i wouldn’t vote for them ( I think) but i do agree with some of their immigration policies

i do like Kemi B
but I think she is tainted by her party being pretty crap

i absolutely love watching her in PMQT