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If you are Reform are you ok with this repulsive man potentially becoming an MP and representing women in parliament?

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Johnogroats · 27/05/2026 14:51

Robert Kenyon, the “cheeky local chappie” who is standing for Reform in Makerfield is on record as making some shockingly sexist comments and statements. Reform are standing by him.

Can I ask the women on here who are Reform voters if they are ok with the him remaining a candidate given what I cite below. Btw I am absolutely not, but I’m not and never will be a Reform voter for a variety of reasons.

  1. Retweeting a post about performing a (graphic description) of a sexual act on Carol Voderman.
  2. He has attacked women as being promiscuous and accused them of taking any decision to have an abortion lightly. He wrote, “reproductive rights, women's rights, they can dress it up all they want.
  3. They're deciding to kill a baby inside the womb. What they mean is they want to shag anyone they want. And if they get caught, they get a second chance and treat it as a secondary, last form of contraception.”

Either you think this is ok (don’t understand how anyone let alone a woman could be ok with it) or presumably you’ll be contacting Tice and Farage etc to drop him.

Interested in your thoughts.

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TheLandlordsAreFrowning · 28/05/2026 18:33

TheSparklyLemonSloth · 28/05/2026 18:31

I care about all threats to women. I am also able to discern between different scales of threat. Like the OP, you are avoiding my key point, probably because you can't answer it.

Which point is your key point, please? Happy to address if you can distill.

CurlewKate · 28/05/2026 18:38

2dogsandabudgie · 28/05/2026 18:27

Read my earlier post to you yesterday?

No-I must have missed it. I will look.

TheSparklyLemonSloth · 28/05/2026 18:39

TheLandlordsAreFrowning · 28/05/2026 18:33

Which point is your key point, please? Happy to address if you can distill.

Read my post! I went to some trouble to make an argument!

5128gap · 28/05/2026 18:40

TheSparklyLemonSloth · 28/05/2026 18:31

I care about all threats to women. I am also able to discern between different scales of threat. Like the OP, you are avoiding my key point, probably because you can't answer it.

I engaged with your key point. I said that the difference between what men say and what they (are able to) do, typically depends on the power they have.
Kenyon and his misogyny amongst his online cronies has limits to its harm, because they are nobodies. He's just another dime a dozen creep. Kenyon given some power to turn his half wit misogynist rhetoric into real life behaviour, is a different matter altogether.
You are pitting the (mercifully) powerless Kenyon against men who have power, and framing him as the lesser evil, on the basis you believe they have wronged women, where he has not. I'm saying, he just hasn't yet.

2dogsandabudgie · 28/05/2026 18:41

CurlewKate · 28/05/2026 18:38

No-I must have missed it. I will look.

I said his comments were disgusting.

ExtraOnions · 28/05/2026 18:42

Peddling lies about the Arena Bombing ..what a hero. He also admits he knows nothing about the Reform policies thar seek to limit workers rights.

He’s dreadful, imagine being a political party that knows it’s core voters will be impressed by a self-proclaimed sexist, who calls gay people poofters, flies false flags about terrorist atrocities, uses “trannies” as an acceptable term, is friends with (proper) far-right people, and thinks women who get abortion are slags.

They either did no screening, or are very happy with his views - awful either way.

BIossomtoes · 28/05/2026 18:44

TheSparklyLemonSloth · 28/05/2026 18:39

Read my post! I went to some trouble to make an argument!

That kind of attitude doesn’t cut any ice on MN. We don’t respond well to demands.

CurlewKate · 28/05/2026 18:46

2dogsandabudgie · 28/05/2026 18:27

Read my earlier post to you yesterday?

Oh yes-when you said they were disgusting and he should apologise but stop looking at that-look look at this entirely different remark in a completely difference context made by someone else who has apologised-suggesting they cancel each other out. False equivalence!

Piggywaspushed · 28/05/2026 18:50

ExtraOnions · 28/05/2026 18:42

Peddling lies about the Arena Bombing ..what a hero. He also admits he knows nothing about the Reform policies thar seek to limit workers rights.

He’s dreadful, imagine being a political party that knows it’s core voters will be impressed by a self-proclaimed sexist, who calls gay people poofters, flies false flags about terrorist atrocities, uses “trannies” as an acceptable term, is friends with (proper) far-right people, and thinks women who get abortion are slags.

They either did no screening, or are very happy with his views - awful either way.

And Farage has reported the group that exposed him to the Charity Commission. It's a root and branch problem.

TheLandlordsAreFrowning · 28/05/2026 18:51

TheSparklyLemonSloth · 28/05/2026 18:39

Read my post! I went to some trouble to make an argument!

You said that you had a "key point" that I couldn't answer. You made a lot of points in your post: women who make themselves "conventionally sexually attractive" deserving abuse; women using abortion as contraception; assisted dying; mass immigration; invasions; the dangers of "conventional" politicians etc. etc.

I am not sure which one is your key one.

NoWordForFluffy · 28/05/2026 19:53

5128gap · 28/05/2026 17:48

I took PPs comment to be more about not wanting to embarass themselves by not being able to answer the questions, rather than not existing.

There are very few people on here who like to answer direct questions in political threads. There's one person on this thread (Labour supporter) who I've asked direct questions to twice in the last 10 days or so who hadn't had the manners to respond. Shyness isn't a Reform trait.

BIossomtoes · 28/05/2026 19:58

Quite a lot of direct questions are posed to be provocative. I won’t answer a question that been asked purely for the purpose of picking holes in the reply. I’ve been caught out too often.

And of course there’s a lot of sea lioning.

NoWordForFluffy · 28/05/2026 20:01

BIossomtoes · 28/05/2026 19:58

Quite a lot of direct questions are posed to be provocative. I won’t answer a question that been asked purely for the purpose of picking holes in the reply. I’ve been caught out too often.

And of course there’s a lot of sea lioning.

Edited

Or for clarification. Always an excuse.

But maybe the Reform voters feel the same way. 🤷‍♀️ What's good for the goose and all that!

BIossomtoes · 28/05/2026 20:13

The OP is a question that could be answered yes or no. 🤷‍♀️

NoWordForFluffy · 28/05/2026 20:21

As are other questions to other people which go ignored. OP and other Reform voters aren't the only ones failing to justify an unreasonable stance!

BIossomtoes · 28/05/2026 20:25

OP isn’t a Reform voter.

NoWordForFluffy · 28/05/2026 20:34

You are such hard work! Many people, including OP, and all posters across the political spectrum (including you) don't answer direct questions. As you admit you don't, you're a hypocrite to expect others to answer. 🤷‍♀️ Don't expect others to do what you won't.

BIossomtoes · 28/05/2026 20:37

If I’m such hard work don’t respond. Nobody’s holding a gun to your head.

CurlewKate · 28/05/2026 20:40

BIossomtoes · 28/05/2026 20:13

The OP is a question that could be answered yes or no. 🤷‍♀️

Yes, this. Nobody will answer it. I do wonder why.

ByGraptharsHammer · 28/05/2026 21:14

You can just get your answer if you collect the following posts…

I am not voting Reform/do not support Reform/just saying

Explains supportive comments for Reform

Smeuse · 28/05/2026 21:26

It does make you wonder what the other potential Reform candidates are like

LiuBei · 28/05/2026 21:33

Glowingup · 27/05/2026 15:51

I think most people want to deport serial rapists. Most of them are deported. The fact that some aren’t is due to immigration laws and obligations under international treaties. What makes you think these Reform wankers would manage when ultimately these matters are for the courts, not politicians?

I think reform might withdraw from international agreements. I'm not claiming that's a good thing. But parliament does decide what laws the courts follow.

5128gap · 28/05/2026 21:40

ByGraptharsHammer · 28/05/2026 21:14

You can just get your answer if you collect the following posts…

I am not voting Reform/do not support Reform/just saying

Explains supportive comments for Reform

Ha. Yes. The "Well, some people...who certainly by no means are me....think...
And the Working classes..which definitely isnt me either, obvs!....feel...
So while I certainly wouldn't vote for Reform myself...its not surprising that those other people..who did I say, aren't me...? do support them...."
I like those ones.

Sewciopath · Yesterday 07:26

WheresMyHatGone · 28/05/2026 18:08

I am in the Makerfield constituency. I am absolutely itching for him or his lackeys to knock on my door to try and gain support. I will thoroughly enjoy discussing this with them.

Same. None of them have showed their face around here yet though. They seem to have certain areas that they are targeting.

nomas · Yesterday 07:29

coulditbeme2323 · 27/05/2026 15:10

But you haven't started a thread asking the same about The Greens?

So start your own. It’s not pay per thread.