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If you are Reform are you ok with this repulsive man potentially becoming an MP and representing women in parliament?

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Johnogroats · 27/05/2026 14:51

Robert Kenyon, the “cheeky local chappie” who is standing for Reform in Makerfield is on record as making some shockingly sexist comments and statements. Reform are standing by him.

Can I ask the women on here who are Reform voters if they are ok with the him remaining a candidate given what I cite below. Btw I am absolutely not, but I’m not and never will be a Reform voter for a variety of reasons.

  1. Retweeting a post about performing a (graphic description) of a sexual act on Carol Voderman.
  2. He has attacked women as being promiscuous and accused them of taking any decision to have an abortion lightly. He wrote, “reproductive rights, women's rights, they can dress it up all they want.
  3. They're deciding to kill a baby inside the womb. What they mean is they want to shag anyone they want. And if they get caught, they get a second chance and treat it as a secondary, last form of contraception.”

Either you think this is ok (don’t understand how anyone let alone a woman could be ok with it) or presumably you’ll be contacting Tice and Farage etc to drop him.

Interested in your thoughts.

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BIossomtoes · 28/05/2026 17:54

2dogsandabudgie · 28/05/2026 17:47

Strange how things change. A couple of years ago on here the left were claiming that the Tories were the 'evil' party and vilifying anyone who supported them.

They haven’t been let off the hook but they’re electorally irrelevant at the moment.

5128gap · 28/05/2026 17:55

2dogsandabudgie · 28/05/2026 17:47

Strange how things change. A couple of years ago on here the left were claiming that the Tories were the 'evil' party and vilifying anyone who supported them.

Two years ago the Tories mattered. They were the government. At present they are largely irrelevant so won't attract so much attention. Also, they are benefitting from a favouable comparison with Reform. I'd even vote for them if it was the only way to keep Reform out.

JHound · 28/05/2026 17:57

Johnogroats · 27/05/2026 14:51

Robert Kenyon, the “cheeky local chappie” who is standing for Reform in Makerfield is on record as making some shockingly sexist comments and statements. Reform are standing by him.

Can I ask the women on here who are Reform voters if they are ok with the him remaining a candidate given what I cite below. Btw I am absolutely not, but I’m not and never will be a Reform voter for a variety of reasons.

  1. Retweeting a post about performing a (graphic description) of a sexual act on Carol Voderman.
  2. He has attacked women as being promiscuous and accused them of taking any decision to have an abortion lightly. He wrote, “reproductive rights, women's rights, they can dress it up all they want.
  3. They're deciding to kill a baby inside the womb. What they mean is they want to shag anyone they want. And if they get caught, they get a second chance and treat it as a secondary, last form of contraception.”

Either you think this is ok (don’t understand how anyone let alone a woman could be ok with it) or presumably you’ll be contacting Tice and Farage etc to drop him.

Interested in your thoughts.

I cannot see why anybody Reform would have an issue as his views are in line with Reform supporters’ views.

yellowspanner · 28/05/2026 17:58

I'm a reform voter and have no
problem with this

JHound · 28/05/2026 17:59

This was the baffling bit to me. He seems to think women have sex and procreate alone:

  1. They're deciding to kill a baby inside the womb. What they mean is they want to shag anyone they want. And if they get caught, they get a second chance and treat it as a secondary, last form of contraception.”
He clearly is a misogynist who rejects any accountability for men when it comes to sex.
JHound · 28/05/2026 18:01

coulditbeme2323 · 27/05/2026 15:10

But you haven't started a thread asking the same about The Greens?

Why do they need to? This thread is about Reform. You can start one about the Greens if you wish.

2dogsandabudgie · 28/05/2026 18:02

CurlewKate · 28/05/2026 17:46

I commented on the Wes Streeting remark down thread. To sum up-Streeting made an ill advised remark in anger about the journalist Jan Moir who had just published appalling views about the death of a gay public figure. He apologised. Kenyon said that “everyone”-presumably every man-wanted to lick and sniff Carole Vordeman’s arsehole. He also said that women who have abortions are slags and pretend to have been raped. He said that he is a sexist. He says that women can’t drive. He has not apologised for anything he said.

Edited

Wes Streeting didn't apologise at the time. He only apologised in the run up to the 2024 GE because the comment resurfaced. So 15 years later. I doubt he would have apologised otherwise.

Johnogroats · 28/05/2026 18:03

yellowspanner · 28/05/2026 17:58

I'm a reform voter and have no
problem with this

Thanks for answering. So of all the things that he’s said, you agree with him or don’t care? Calling women who’ve had abortions slags and the stuff about Vorders…. Do you genuinely think that’s appropriate?

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JHound · 28/05/2026 18:05

Smeuse · 27/05/2026 15:56

He had at least 2 accounts banned on X, which does not happen very often.

There is a lot more he has said beyond his remarks on women.

And to get banned by X - a vile cesspit - really takes some doing.

NotMeAtAll · 28/05/2026 18:07

Reform is for Daily Mail readers. What else do you need to know?

WheresMyHatGone · 28/05/2026 18:08

I am in the Makerfield constituency. I am absolutely itching for him or his lackeys to knock on my door to try and gain support. I will thoroughly enjoy discussing this with them.

Smeuse · 28/05/2026 18:09

2dogsandabudgie · 28/05/2026 18:02

Wes Streeting didn't apologise at the time. He only apologised in the run up to the 2024 GE because the comment resurfaced. So 15 years later. I doubt he would have apologised otherwise.

Kenyon's masses of SM posts have now surfaced, he and Reform have had plenty of time to apologise

What is stopping him?

Maybe he stands by them?

You would vote for him?

JHound · 28/05/2026 18:09

TheSparklyLemonSloth · 27/05/2026 21:47

  1. There is such a thing as the law of unintended consequences. Benefits as a safety net is generally a good development but no one would argue that there aren't cases of entitlement and over-reliance on handouts. Assisted dying might be well-intentioned but there are hideous examples of it being the thin end of the wedge. I think it was in Canada where a young man with diabetes recently took the decision to end his life, to his mother's anguish. Safe access to abortion can be seen as a good thing but of course some women do use abortion as contraception, which was never the intention, and it is irresponsible. I had a shocking conversation with a 16 year old many years ago, who told me that her friend, 17 at the time, never used contraception and was about to have her second abortion. Abortion should be a last resort.
  2. Carol Vorderman had a lot of work done to make herself look (stereotypically) sexually attractive. One man then found her sexually attractive, and another one retweeted the first's comment....shock, horror!
  3. There is a big difference between SAYING something and DOING or NOT DOING something. The Reform candidate has SAID some things you may not agree with, that you think may indicate worrying attitudes towards women. Let's look at what the Tories and Labour, who have been in power, have DONE and NOT DONE, that have had real consequences for women. They HAVE allowed, for decades, mass immigration from misogynistic cultures, so that, in 21st century Britain, we are dealing with FGM, honour killings, grooming gangs.... also Labour and Conservatives HAVE NOT dealt with the invasion on the south coast, so unvetted, undocumented males, free to roam about, are able to murder (Rhiannon White, stabbed to death with a screwdriver, so her little boy is now without his mother) and rape.

OP, don't worry so much about what candidates SAY. Ther're allowed to have opinions and you can argue with them if you want. Look at what candidates/politicians DO and DON’T DO in terms of POLICY and how that affects women and girls. Conventional politicians like Starmer nd others are too polished to retweet crude sexual comments and I don't recall him criticising some of the women who seek abortions. But he didn't want a national enquiry into the grooming gangs and he's done very little about the small boats.
It's the conventional, "respectable" middle class politicians who women should be worrying about.

Edited

What do you mean “women use abortion as contraception”? For every woman doing that a man is doing that too. Why is the criticism on the woman and not also the man choosing to forego contraception?

CurlewKate · 28/05/2026 18:13

2dogsandabudgie · 28/05/2026 18:02

Wes Streeting didn't apologise at the time. He only apologised in the run up to the 2024 GE because the comment resurfaced. So 15 years later. I doubt he would have apologised otherwise.

I was pretty sure that he did apologise-although frankly, considering the circumstances, I wouldn’t have expected him to apologise. You can surely see that his remarks were in an entirely different league to Kenyon’s.

2dogsandabudgie · 28/05/2026 18:15

Smeuse · 28/05/2026 18:09

Kenyon's masses of SM posts have now surfaced, he and Reform have had plenty of time to apologise

What is stopping him?

Maybe he stands by them?

You would vote for him?

No I wouldn't vote for him but I don't have to vote for any of the candidates in Makerfield.

JHound · 28/05/2026 18:16

2dogsandabudgie · 28/05/2026 18:02

Wes Streeting didn't apologise at the time. He only apologised in the run up to the 2024 GE because the comment resurfaced. So 15 years later. I doubt he would have apologised otherwise.

I wonder if Jan Moir ever apologised for her comment.

TheSparklyLemonSloth · 28/05/2026 18:19

OP, your objections to Kenyon are fluff compared to the much bigger threats to women outlined in my post yesterday, that you have completely ignored. Either engage with people who think differently to you or don't start threads in the first place.

CurlewKate · 28/05/2026 18:23

@2dogsandabudgieIncidentally-you do condemn Kenyon’s remarks, don’t you?

TheLandlordsAreFrowning · 28/05/2026 18:25

TheSparklyLemonSloth · 28/05/2026 18:19

OP, your objections to Kenyon are fluff compared to the much bigger threats to women outlined in my post yesterday, that you have completely ignored. Either engage with people who think differently to you or don't start threads in the first place.

I read your post. The victim blaming in the second para was pretty off putting.

I am not sure you care much about threats to women and girls unless those threats come from particular demographics. So I don't blame OP for not bothering to engage.

Welcome to MN btw.

2dogsandabudgie · 28/05/2026 18:26

JHound · 28/05/2026 18:16

I wonder if Jan Moir ever apologised for her comment.

Yes she did.

2dogsandabudgie · 28/05/2026 18:27

CurlewKate · 28/05/2026 18:23

@2dogsandabudgieIncidentally-you do condemn Kenyon’s remarks, don’t you?

Read my earlier post to you yesterday?

BIossomtoes · 28/05/2026 18:29

TheLandlordsAreFrowning · 28/05/2026 18:25

I read your post. The victim blaming in the second para was pretty off putting.

I am not sure you care much about threats to women and girls unless those threats come from particular demographics. So I don't blame OP for not bothering to engage.

Welcome to MN btw.

Edited

The paragraph that construed the disgusting tweet to Vorderman as a compliment was pretty vile. I think we can safely assume that poster cares about as much about women as Kenyon does.

TheSparklyLemonSloth · 28/05/2026 18:31

TheLandlordsAreFrowning · 28/05/2026 18:25

I read your post. The victim blaming in the second para was pretty off putting.

I am not sure you care much about threats to women and girls unless those threats come from particular demographics. So I don't blame OP for not bothering to engage.

Welcome to MN btw.

Edited

I care about all threats to women. I am also able to discern between different scales of threat. Like the OP, you are avoiding my key point, probably because you can't answer it.

TheLandlordsAreFrowning · 28/05/2026 18:31

BIossomtoes · 28/05/2026 18:29

The paragraph that construed the disgusting tweet to Vorderman as a compliment was pretty vile. I think we can safely assume that poster cares about as much about women as Kenyon does.

Edited

I also suspect they are male.

BIossomtoes · 28/05/2026 18:31

TheLandlordsAreFrowning · 28/05/2026 18:31

I also suspect they are male.

I’d put money on it.

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