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AIBU to think a twin parent should contribute per child?

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TheMumEdit · Yesterday 17:09

Interested in how other people approach. We do a group collection for the school teacher every year. Another mum and I tend to take turns. Offered out to the rest but oddly no one else wants a turn! . We put in £10 each which is what we all agreed. . Two mums in the year have twins. One mum pays per child (so £20) and the other pays £10 total so £5 per child.

I’ve never really thought about it but the other mum that’s turn it is think we should say we’ve only received one contribution. The more I think about it the more I thinks she a bit cheeky but after 6 years don’t see the point in saying now. This mum is quite well off (one a Dr and one equal in terms of salary) whilst most other parents are on much lower salaries.

AIBU: don’t say
YANBU Say gives more money 😉

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GCAcademic · Today 21:29

Disasterclass · Today 21:07

I can’t believe teachers are still allowed to accept high value gifts from parents, when the rest of the public sector either aren’t allowed to or only up to a minimal amount then usually have to share any chocolates etc out with colleagues

This thread has reminded me why I’m pleased that the primary years are behind. I used to give the mums doing these collections a wide berth, so pleased those days are over

Agreed. I am not allowed to accept anything an is more than a symbolic token (e.g box of chocolates, bottle of wine), and nor should I be. It falls foul of our anti-bribery policy, otherwise.

Northernlights19 · Today 21:30

How come you're considering asking her for more cash and not the children's father?

Cycleaway · Today 21:32

I remember being nominated (/forced)to do the collection for my DC class. For various reasons not all of the families in the class contributed, and I think that’s fine, because it’s a personal decision
The issue I had was the parents who had calculated what the total donations should have amounted to, then told me how I should allocate it amongst the teacher and TA. I didn’t feel it was right to disclose what people had decided to dontate, and ended up raiding my garden to make bouquets of flowers to try and eek the money out a bit further. I didn’t organise the collection ever again because it was an absolute nightmare. People are very quick to provide an opinion on what should happen, so long as they don’t have to implement it, so personally I’d suggest handing the twin issue over to the parent who has raised the issue

5thchildso · Today 21:35

Disasterclass · Today 21:07

I can’t believe teachers are still allowed to accept high value gifts from parents, when the rest of the public sector either aren’t allowed to or only up to a minimal amount then usually have to share any chocolates etc out with colleagues

This thread has reminded me why I’m pleased that the primary years are behind. I used to give the mums doing these collections a wide berth, so pleased those days are over

She might not be public sector - don't think OP has said

Starstarstar · Today 21:36

One of the few financial benefits of twins, single class donation, (one present at parties from both) IME. Do you think twin parents should also provide two cakes for cake sale and volunteer twice as often for school trips etc? Absolutely no way, I exploited the 2 for 1 advantage whenever possible!

Greengage1983 · Today 21:37

If there was no collection and parents just bought their own gifts, would a twin parent buy two gifts? I doubt it.. No one needs duplicate “best teacher” mugs or whatever… so it’s fine. Also, saying anything would be massively rude.

Maddy70 · Today 21:42

She can pay whatever she wants or nothing ....

ChocFrogKnife · Today 21:42

TheMumEdit · Yesterday 17:37

I agree no one knows someone’s situation. But when she’s regularly posting in the group chat about trips to Disney, skiing and cruises (so far this year) and they are both driving brand new luxury cars I’m confident she’s not struggling.

Sounds like she’s spent all her money

Acheyelbows · Today 21:43

What a pile on, it sounded like a genuine question. Teachers don't expect or demand gifts. If they contribute, put their name on the card, if they choose not to then don't. Teachers are not going to list off the names of the kids who have signed or not. They thank everyone and accept anything, hand made cards, drawn pictures, mugs etc. It is unnecessary but appreciated. If families can't afford it, then don't do it.

If people don't want to step up, just go it alone next year. Get your own small gift if you choose to.

Be mindful that some people who volunteer to collect aren't always trustworthy. Asking for a pic of the voucher or card/gift in the chat can help with that as having parents taken advantage of in the name of the teacher is maddening. Obviously the poster here is unequivocally fair as they are asking this question about fairness.

amccabe15 · Today 21:45

When I was a teacher I was pleased to have a card, maybe some chocs or something but NEVER would I expect a collection! Is this mummy one-upmanship?

MyDuvetDay · Today 21:47

I’m a class rep for my DC’s class so I’m responsible for collecting contributions for the teacher’s gifts. I suggest an amount for each parent to pay but it’s always optional/discretionary. If someone didn’t pay or paid less than the suggested amount, that’s fine. If there were any twin parents in the class, I would give them a break - they have a lot to deal with

ladygindiva · Today 21:47

The transactional givers on this thread literally taking my breath away. So glad none of my friends are this grim.

vintedandminted · Today 21:49

Oh no. Your one of those Stepford Wives who make school mum's life a misery.

FreyaW · Today 21:56

TheMumEdit · Yesterday 17:22

There are 24 and we buy the TA off of that and office staff

Away and jump!..this is just one class?...how many classes are at the school?

ByKindOpalPoet · Today 21:57

Disasterclass · Today 21:07

I can’t believe teachers are still allowed to accept high value gifts from parents, when the rest of the public sector either aren’t allowed to or only up to a minimal amount then usually have to share any chocolates etc out with colleagues

This thread has reminded me why I’m pleased that the primary years are behind. I used to give the mums doing these collections a wide berth, so pleased those days are over

We aren’t. We have to inform our business manager and head of anything over a certain amount and if money is given we have to let them know and it gets discreetly handed back to the parents.

ainsleysanob · Today 21:58

I wouldn’t be contributing at all so in that respect I think she’s being generous!

ForPlumReader · Today 22:02

Alouest · Yesterday 17:20

It doesn't matter. And all the children's names should be on the card even if their parents haven't contributed. That's the nice thing to do.

Agreed, this is why I never took part in class collections.

ThesebeautifulthingsthatIvegot · Today 22:06

FireBreathingDragon · Yesterday 19:09

I gave our year five teacher a £30 voucher at Xmas as she had been great with my daughter (different things had gone on). I decided that would cover her for the year so didn’t contribute to the end of year whip round. The CF actually came bowling across the playground with the TA at her side and asked if she had upset me as didn’t see my name in the card!

I said that she hadn’t up til this point. Then we had very heated words in front of 75% of the school community who were gathering in the playground for end of term festivities. Everyone was looking and it was in front of my daughter and many other kids.

Clearly these teachers get used to their couple of hundred quid bonus bung twice yearly (Xmas and end of term) so those saying it doesn’t matter - may be wrong. As I discovered the hard way, cash is king and people turn very nasty and childish where gifts are concerned.

I learnt a very valuable lesson that day and stopped being overly generous to people as nice gestures shouldn’t have a way of coming back to bite you on the backside!

That's definitely a case of one ridiculous human being. I have worked in schools for two decades and haven't ever rallied up who gives what. Nor have any of my colleagues. You should have reported that teacher because that's just not on.

I love a card from someone that I know I've made a difference to. It's nice to be appreciated. A group card formed from a WhatsApp group would have little value. Suggesting that most teachers see it as a bonus is completely ridiculous. My friends mostly get a couple of grand either in April or at Christmas. I'd prefer that to a few chocolates and a mug!

Bookbears · Today 22:08

polarbert · Today 21:19

£10 per household is more than enough for a voluntary contribution.

But they have agreed to £10 per child like everyone else. A single mum will be paying £10 for their one child on one salary. This couple are paying £5 per child on two salaries.

I know everyone’s financial circumstances are different (but that aside and assuming she can afford it) it’s a bloody cheek to knowingly pay half when everyone else is putting the full amount. If she doesn’t want to pay £10 per child she doesn’t have too, she could go and do her present separately. It’s not so much the monetary value, it’s the principle and her taking advantage of a situation knowing that no one is going to be nasty enough to leave one of the kids names off the card.

FireBreathingDragon · Today 22:12

ThesebeautifulthingsthatIvegot · Today 22:06

That's definitely a case of one ridiculous human being. I have worked in schools for two decades and haven't ever rallied up who gives what. Nor have any of my colleagues. You should have reported that teacher because that's just not on.

I love a card from someone that I know I've made a difference to. It's nice to be appreciated. A group card formed from a WhatsApp group would have little value. Suggesting that most teachers see it as a bonus is completely ridiculous. My friends mostly get a couple of grand either in April or at Christmas. I'd prefer that to a few chocolates and a mug!

I didn’t report her for having awful manners and lacking decorum but I did report her for failing her duties and responsibilities in safe guarding the children in her care (totally different goings on).

I didn’t imply the whip rounds are akin to a workplace bonus. I was talking colloquially that SOME teachers grow to expect it.

Thankfully not all teachers are douche bags but I definitely stumbled across a few in my time - I work in education too.

Leavin4 · Today 22:19

I think its unreasonable that the amount is dictated at all. It should just be whatever any parents are able and wish to give.

polarbert · Today 22:21

Bookbears · Today 22:08

But they have agreed to £10 per child like everyone else. A single mum will be paying £10 for their one child on one salary. This couple are paying £5 per child on two salaries.

I know everyone’s financial circumstances are different (but that aside and assuming she can afford it) it’s a bloody cheek to knowingly pay half when everyone else is putting the full amount. If she doesn’t want to pay £10 per child she doesn’t have too, she could go and do her present separately. It’s not so much the monetary value, it’s the principle and her taking advantage of a situation knowing that no one is going to be nasty enough to leave one of the kids names off the card.

Nobody has been taken advantage of. That is a very silly mindset.

The single mother is paying for her household, the twin parents are paying for their household.

And it sounds like OP absolutely does leave children's names off the card. Many others who have posted do too.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Today 22:23

TheMumEdit · Yesterday 17:18

I am aware of that. But all the children’s names are on the card. Give as agree or do your own thing. Both are a choice

Woah - don't be so mean spirited. And don't do the collection in future

LalaPaloosa2024 · Today 22:33

We are forced to put in £70 per child. £20 is looking pretty reasonable to me.

HobGobblynne · Today 22:35

LalaPaloosa2024 · Today 22:33

We are forced to put in £70 per child. £20 is looking pretty reasonable to me.

Forced in what way?

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