Men... are u okay? What is the problem?

[LavenderSkiesxo]

I think this will be removed / deleted but i am not saying anything untrue. Or factually incorrect. But here goes...

Since having my little girl just over a year ago I have started resenting men. I dont know why as my partner isnt bad. I just see them in a whole new light.

Firstly, years ago women couldn't vote and it was the done thing that they would look after the children and home and men were the providers. But, many women (not all!) Now have careers, go to work, earn their own money. We can now vote. Aswell as have a career, many women still take on majority of the housework and childcare. Not because men always refuse but they just dont, we do things automatically. Men, just dont think.

The other day I was driving to visit family and saw a car with its hazards on in the slip road... they have broken down i thought. Nope. A man was standing behind his car pissing. It got me thinking, ive never seen a woman pissing at the side of the road. We just wouldn't, so how do men find themselves in this situation? My dog can hold its bladder until "walkies" so what's the issue?

I read that men commit like 91% of murders, most rapes are men and men mostly abuse their partners. Men are more likely to commit suicide, men dont open up and speak about their feelings.. some men transition to become "women" and fight to enter women spaces. I know women transition to men but you dont hear about them!

I just dont understand. Men.. what is the actual problem??? Apart from sperm, what is your actual purpose??

The posts on here today.. oh my man was messaging a coworker inappropriately and he cant get her moved as it'll be suspicious... WHAT!! Nah he has played his part, otherwise it would be as simple as, hey HR this person is being inappropriate and its making me uncomfortable, here are the messages 🤣🤣

Or the other one, my man spent lots of money on my credit card and refusing to pay up... WHAT🤣🤣

What the fuck, we all play our part to with enabling such shit behaviour.

I've seen women squatting down and pissing in shop doorways on a Friday or Saturday night while out in town. Sadly, with increasing frequency.

I thought exactly the same, years ago women couldn’t vote….yeah 108 years ago!!!

This is a massive one-sided rant against men. Men do horrendous things with zero justification, especially the violence against women. Truly and utterly despicable. Likewise, most violent crime is committed by men. I’m sure there will be people who study this behaviour and perhaps have scientific theories.

However, men also do some unbelievable things from writing beautiful songs, poetry & literature to stepping into burning buildings to save lives.

@darksideofthetoonwomen also do those 🙄

If you take a step back, the short answer is probably that we’ve arrived at where we are now because from an evolutionary perspective (both physically and on a societal level) this path has “worked” for humans…so far.

In other words, as a species we have continued to survive and, in terms of overall number, have thrived based on the set up we see around us. By that measure, it has been effective.

That isn’t a value judgment. It isn’t to say that the current set up is “good”, or the best of all possible alternatives by any means.

What we can say though is that it has got humans this far. Life for most creatures is nasty, brutish and short, a constant battle between predators and prey. For the majority of our history it has been that way for us too. But the potential competitors to Homo Sapiens died out, and so we eventually emerged with our messy, often violent, complex societies and we developed technologies that far outstrip our fellow creatures on the planet (for good or ill).

Homo Sapiens could easily have already ended up as a footnote in the history of planet Earth ( and the way we are going, perhaps we soon will be). But looking back, it is quite possible that on a species level the “faults” of men as a sex have also been the same behaviours that helped ensure our collective survival.

The question we face now is whether, with all our knowledge and experience, and with much greater potential to consider and implement alternative ways of being, can we as a species actually implement something better than simply following the same patterns of behaviour which have got us this far.

For the people saying it's not all men
If you had a box of chocolates all looking the same
But one of them was dog poo inside the chocolate shell
Would you risk eating any ?
Or would you say no thanks to them all.
Honestly it would massively put me of choosing any of them .
To high a risk as you don't know which is dog poo

All women deserve to feel safe. I mean it's not all men (hate that caveat) but all women know men CAN be predatory and women are prey.

I know what men are like - some are better than hiding it than others is all. It doesn't make me love men any less but I am wide eyed in ways I wasn't when I was younger.

You're not wrong @LavenderSkiesxo but we live in a patriarchal society and lots of people can't see the misogyny/sexism,or don't want to. And some men are decent, but the vast majority are raised to believe they're superior to women, and therein lies the problem.

During both World Wars women took on a lot of traditionally 'male' roles (including heavy industries and agriculture) because men were away fighting and they needed to be filled. There are even fewer jobs now which require physical strength. Society might collapse if all men (or all women) disappeared, but not because most jobs can only be done by one sex.

Why would she heartbroken? Why even mention that?
Im not being mean but is she autistic? Cause I cant see why she would be heartbroken.. we arent talking about your son or other men in your life. Just a weird thing to speficially mention your daughter.

I'm perimenopausal and so I'm fully down for this rage bait.

I only have time for things that add value to my life. Men are pissing me off right now and they just hold me back. I feel like Ginger Rogers - I do everything they do, backwards in fucking heels. What is the POINT of men?

I do think we are probs being unreasonable though.

True but women also do those things the OP mentions.

I had a look at this - you all realise this thread is from 2007?? I'm not saying that people don't still think like this but the population of internet forum users in 2007 was a lot more niche than nowadays, and the attitude of sexism was very different in 2007 (I'm not going to say better or worse).

Surely we can get a more relevant example of current sexism online?

I do voluntary garden at a churchyard. We get men regularly come in a piss there, thinking nobody is around. I now take enjoyment in telling them to stop being dirty buggers, just as they've started. Hope I ruin the flow.

It's a churchyard. Have some respect fgs!

When out walking my dog, sometimes late at night. I have.crossed the road if a man is approaching me. I havent with a woman because I dont see woman out late. I remember being a young teen and an older man came over and told me I was pretty. I was terrified and made up a lie that my dad was meeting me. I have held my keys in my hand before late at night to fight off a man.. not a woman a man!

The truth? Thats always subjective and you sound like someone who is VERY prone to subjective views. You literally say apart from sperm what is the point of a man? Maybe to take a bullet 100 years ago so a woman like you can post this? What is the point in a woman who doesn't reproduce? What is the point in a man or woman on benefits who doesn't contribute to society? What is the point in giving drugs to elderly people to keep them alive? What is the point of keeping people with disabilities alive? Why are you not starting threads to this effect?

I should imagine it's just deeper underground. We know sexism is on the rise, so is crimes against women (even taking into account more people are reporting it).

Well some posts on here regarding men are embarrassing and we as women enable it. O hope the poster leaves the man who is clearly having an affair with his reportee

Not sure if you are aware but women can’t just squat in the street. Men can piss standing up without anyone being able to see their genitals.

Its no more disgusting then when people let their little boys piss in the street

YABVU for starting with "this will probably be deleted"

Why?

Why? It’s none of your business really.

Because people deserve better. Simple isn't it?

The favourite people in my life have been men and the ones to show me kindness and acceptance have been men. The males in my family are moral, caring and protective.

But I don't disagree with you though, all I can assume is that there's a wide difference between the men who do these things and those that don't.

Instead of silencing debate, maybe it would be good to understand what actually causes these differences, as they are vast.

With that logic why are you on a forum because nothing is your business??

That analogy only works if there are no shits in the female chocolate box.

If I had to pick a tray I would probably pick the female one, but there is still a chance you'll eat shit.