Men... are u okay? What is the problem?

[LavenderSkiesxo]

I think this will be removed / deleted but i am not saying anything untrue. Or factually incorrect. But here goes...

Since having my little girl just over a year ago I have started resenting men. I dont know why as my partner isnt bad. I just see them in a whole new light.

Firstly, years ago women couldn't vote and it was the done thing that they would look after the children and home and men were the providers. But, many women (not all!) Now have careers, go to work, earn their own money. We can now vote. Aswell as have a career, many women still take on majority of the housework and childcare. Not because men always refuse but they just dont, we do things automatically. Men, just dont think.

The other day I was driving to visit family and saw a car with its hazards on in the slip road... they have broken down i thought. Nope. A man was standing behind his car pissing. It got me thinking, ive never seen a woman pissing at the side of the road. We just wouldn't, so how do men find themselves in this situation? My dog can hold its bladder until "walkies" so what's the issue?

I read that men commit like 91% of murders, most rapes are men and men mostly abuse their partners. Men are more likely to commit suicide, men dont open up and speak about their feelings.. some men transition to become "women" and fight to enter women spaces. I know women transition to men but you dont hear about them!

I just dont understand. Men.. what is the actual problem??? Apart from sperm, what is your actual purpose??

The posts on here today.. oh my man was messaging a coworker inappropriately and he cant get her moved as it'll be suspicious... WHAT!! Nah he has played his part, otherwise it would be as simple as, hey HR this person is being inappropriate and its making me uncomfortable, here are the messages 🤣🤣

Or the other one, my man spent lots of money on my credit card and refusing to pay up... WHAT🤣🤣

What the fuck, we all play our part to with enabling such shit behaviour.

91% of men commit crimes? Care to share your sources?😂

Are you trying to claim that 91% of men commit crimes?

It's the common schoolchild error of not recognising that '98% of certain terrible things are done by X group' is very much not the same as '98% of X group do certain terrible things'.

Telephone scams devastate lives and can traumatise victims to their graves. The overwhelming majority of those scam calls (received in the UK at least) are made by people who are Indian. Why not start another thread, OP, asking what on earth the point is of Indians - apart from maybe running curry houses - and making out that 98% of Indians are criminals?

@LavenderSkiesxocompletely agree with you! I despair of men’s behaviour and once you see it, you cant unsee it.
I will never enter into a relationship with a man again and I try to use female services as much as possible to limit men even coming into my home!!

91% of men do not commit crimes fgs !!!
91% of crimes may be committed by men ( I say may because I have no idea) but that is completely different.

What are you basing this on??

See you means exactly that.

You're seen for what you are. Not someone who is asking honest questions. But someone who just wants to bash men.

You look more and more stupid and bitter each response you make.

So crack on. Its honestly hilarious..

Would she? We’re not discussing your son personally I doubt she’d care less

True. No one is safe from bad men, women, girls, not even boys and other men. Bad men are the most disgusting thing on this planet. Good men are out there but they are not the ones we have to live in fear of.

Practically everything we say about safety, about being alert, about not being alone late at night etc is all because of bad men. No one says don’t go out on your own because you might cross paths with a 65 year old woman but a 65 year old man can still be very dangerous.

Bad men give good men a bad name, bad men give humans a bad name. They are the scummiest thing to contaminate this planet and I wish all bad men could be fish (shark) food.

I have sons who I love more than anything and they are wonderful men, if all men were like them you would never need to worry about your safety.

Thank you

"Some dogs bite, therefore all dogs bite"

That is the hasty generalization fallacy (also called overgeneralization).

• Definition: drawing a broad conclusion about an entire group based on a small, unrepresentative, or anecdotal sample.
• Key features: limited evidence, unwarranted extrapolation, ignores counterexamples and base rates.
• Related terms:
• Sweeping generalization: applying a general rule too broadly.
• Anecdotal evidence fallacy: relying on one or few anecdotes instead of systematic data.
• Confirmation bias often reinforces it by selective attention to supporting cases.
• Example: “A dog bit me once; therefore all dogs are dangerous” — single incident used to judge the whole class.

How to avoid it:

1. Seek larger, representative samples or statistical data.
2. Consider alternative explanations and counterexamples.
3. Quantify uncertainty (use probabilistic language rather than absolute claims).

Built on the systematic oppression of women who weren't permitted in law to vote, own property or earn a living. Not to mention if they did receive an education their husbands would take their genius as their own, Einstein's wife is a perfect example. It's almost suspicious that all his work labelled as genius was produced prior to their divorce.
He also gave her the money from his Nobel prize win for the theory of relativity..

You’ve quoted me and still misunderstood what I wrote.

I didn’t say 98% of men commit violent and sexual crimes. I stated that of the sexual and violent crimes committed in this country, 98% are committed by men. That’s just statistical fact.

I work in a job that sees the worst of humanity. Guess what sex I see the most? If I’m getting off a bus late at night I wouldn’t care if a woman got off at the same time as me. I would if a man did.

It's possible to recognise that men - as a sex class as a whole - are the more problematic sex. I say this as someone with a lovely male partner and nice men in my life.

Why not address what OP wrote rather than moaning about "man bashing".
There are forums where men plan to abduct women (such as Holly Willoughby.) I don't think you can say men's forums are superior and never woman bash

I agree. The older i get the more i feel resentful and realise men have it so much easier!

I hate to say but I agree with you. I feel so ashamed of some of the women posting on MN and I don’t even know them!

The posts about ‘my husband text a cooworker he wanted to look at her arse as she walked by at work’ ‘he rinses my credit card and doesn’t pay me back and I’ve let him do this for 18 years’. It’s so embarrassing. LEAVE HIM!!! Run!! And then you get the ‘oh it’s not always easy to leave and break up a family’. What?! What family?! A father who gets into inappropriate relationships with colleagues way younger than him? A husband who drags his wife into debt and doesn’t pay her back?! I’m telling you now I’d be so far out that front door it isn’t even funny.

Why are we allowing this treatment? Why are we even entertaining the idea that we might be being unreasonable?! I despair honestly.

In Europe? I couldn't disagree more, it's so much easier to be a woman! I find it harder to prepare my boys than my girls.

In the world in general, sadly in many countries, being born female is indeed a terrible curse.

Women could/can do most of those things though.

RE the intruder in the garden scenario, if men weren't so fucking dangerous then women wouldn't need to worry about them in the dark.

Can I ask why you’re removing your shoes to have a wee outside?

Sums it up perfectly 🤣

I agree @LavenderSkiesxo After having my children I see the world in a very different way. Becoming a mother and a wife has altered my view of men and their role in society.

I have a really lovely and wonderful husband. But he isn’t a woman, and therefore doesn’t completely understand my experiences and what it means to be a woman and mother in today’s society.

Yes they did, and while it isn't true that ALL women are teachers and babysitters I was using these as an example of the kind of jobs women go into because they are statistically more likely to be involved in jobs that require soft skills, I didn't say that no women are involved in STEM or labour roles. but the majority of infrastructure work is undertaken by men.

Sure, you see just how long society keeps on running when it is being run by a workforce that has been reduced by 90%?

There's an ocean between intelligently discussing the many problems in society that are caused wholly or largely by men as a group, and decrying them all as basically useless apart from being able to provide sperm to make new females (with the new males that are also made being a regrettable but unavoidable hazard on the side).

It's exactly the same mindset as the pathetic little incels but with the sexes swapped around - are the incels generally a group whose 'reasoning powers' you wish to align yourself with?

interesting that you blame the husband here, but say nothing about the other woman who happens to be married to another man. (as seen on many threads, with the usual, shall I tell her husband etc)

You think SHE is reasonable, but He isn't? WHy is that?