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Men... are u okay? What is the problem?

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LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 15:02

I think this will be removed / deleted but i am not saying anything untrue. Or factually incorrect. But here goes...

Since having my little girl just over a year ago I have started resenting men. I dont know why as my partner isnt bad. I just see them in a whole new light.

Firstly, years ago women couldn't vote and it was the done thing that they would look after the children and home and men were the providers. But, many women (not all!) Now have careers, go to work, earn their own money. We can now vote. Aswell as have a career, many women still take on majority of the housework and childcare. Not because men always refuse but they just dont, we do things automatically. Men, just dont think.

The other day I was driving to visit family and saw a car with its hazards on in the slip road... they have broken down i thought. Nope. A man was standing behind his car pissing. It got me thinking, ive never seen a woman pissing at the side of the road. We just wouldn't, so how do men find themselves in this situation? My dog can hold its bladder until "walkies" so what's the issue?

I read that men commit like 91% of murders, most rapes are men and men mostly abuse their partners. Men are more likely to commit suicide, men dont open up and speak about their feelings.. some men transition to become "women" and fight to enter women spaces. I know women transition to men but you dont hear about them!

I just dont understand. Men.. what is the actual problem??? Apart from sperm, what is your actual purpose??

The posts on here today.. oh my man was messaging a coworker inappropriately and he cant get her moved as it'll be suspicious... WHAT!! Nah he has played his part, otherwise it would be as simple as, hey HR this person is being inappropriate and its making me uncomfortable, here are the messages 🤣🤣

Or the other one, my man spent lots of money on my credit card and refusing to pay up... WHAT🤣🤣

What the fuck, we all play our part to with enabling such shit behaviour.

OP posts:
FernFaery · 20/05/2026 22:14

LoyalMember · 20/05/2026 22:13

You've used the childbirth fatality statistics from three years, but deaths at work from only one year. Why are you skewing the numbers?

I mean you can simply halve the birth deaths to reach the same outcome. I assumed you were bright enough to do this.

Passingthrough123 · 20/05/2026 22:15

FernFaery · 20/05/2026 22:01

Nobody’s said all men are rapists, but basically all rapists are men.

I feel the posters on here are divided into 2 camps; those who ‘know some nice men, and women can be mean to me’ who are flatly ignoring very basic and overwhelming numerical evidence.

And those who acknowledge some men can be nice, and sometimes women can be mean, but accept the basic and very overwhelming numerical evidence.

I think most people are in the latter. We all know men are guilty of the worst crimes compared to women. It’s statistically borne out. But not all men are arseholes either, which seems to be OP’s overriding stance, clearly fuelled by her having a run of crap men as partners.

JumboJambo · 20/05/2026 22:16

Ninapertree · 20/05/2026 19:19

We need an ama with men on here.

We can ask them questions like "why are you like that'

Not sure that would help.

Passingthrough123 · 20/05/2026 22:17

LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 22:00

No, if my partner could do no wrong I would still think the same. He isnt swaying my opinion. Get a grip.

Sure he’s not. 🙄

FernFaery · 20/05/2026 22:18

Passingthrough123 · 20/05/2026 22:15

I think most people are in the latter. We all know men are guilty of the worst crimes compared to women. It’s statistically borne out. But not all men are arseholes either, which seems to be OP’s overriding stance, clearly fuelled by her having a run of crap men as partners.

I think, given she can’t walk along the road safely at night or wear what she likes without ‘repercussions’ or go for a jog without obscenities being shouted out of a window, she’s very justified in feeling thoroughly fed up once in a while. I know I do.

FernFaery · 20/05/2026 22:18

JumboJambo · 20/05/2026 22:16

Not sure that would help.

Edited

They would just talk about Rose West and ‘women being so entitled’

LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 22:19

FernFaery · 20/05/2026 22:14

I mean you can simply halve the birth deaths to reach the same outcome. I assumed you were bright enough to do this.

Skewing the numbers🤣🤣🤣🤣

OP posts:
LoyalMember · 20/05/2026 22:19

FernFaery · 20/05/2026 22:14

I mean you can simply halve the birth deaths to reach the same outcome. I assumed you were bright enough to do this.

Yes, I am, but you, of course, realise that some years are relatively quiet compared to other years for workplace fatalities. What happens if a plane crashes or an oil rig capsizes? The statistics would shoot up, or do those deaths not really matter?

TriesNotToBeCynical · 20/05/2026 22:21

Pigeonatthewheel · 20/05/2026 22:04

A quick Google would suggest that 95% of those killed at work were male. What have women who died in childbirth got to do with an argument (you claim to be winning) over whether women are significantly involved in ‘dirty jobs’ as defined by the poster shuggles. Giving birth is clearly not a job.

It may not be a job, but it is a socially essential task!

TriesNotToBeCynical · 20/05/2026 22:27

TriesNotToBeCynical · 20/05/2026 22:21

It may not be a job, but it is a socially essential task!

Edit; wrong thread, sorry

AnnieBond · 20/05/2026 22:28

LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 18:12

I have a nice partner, dad and brother..
When I see people saying similar about men then no I am not heartbroken. I appreciate the men I have in my life are good but not all men are like that. Maybe your daughter is prone to sensitivity?? I cant get my head around why you said that. 2nd hand embarrassment for you.

You're in no position to have 2nd hand embarrassment!

LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 22:30

AnnieBond · 20/05/2026 22:28

You're in no position to have 2nd hand embarrassment!

Subjective but I do!!

OP posts:
Charlize43 · 20/05/2026 22:44

OP - I think you might be a bit too fixated on hating men. Maybe lay off the feminist literature for a while or get some professional help.

When I was in a car smash up it was two male paramedics who saved me.
Years later, during Covid after I had been made redundant and found that I didn't have enough money to pay for my shopping in Lidl and burst into tears because it had all become too much for me, it was a kind older man who came forward and paid for my shopping.

You can go through life hating and blaming someone for their sex, race, religion, etc, or you can try and find the good. Your choice.

Pigeonatthewheel · 20/05/2026 22:51

TriesNotToBeCynical · 20/05/2026 22:21

It may not be a job, but it is a socially essential task!

This is of course true, though I would say out of scope on the specific point that was being argued. If we are looking at the broader field of deaths doing socially essential tasks then military deaths would also need to be brought in scope. Some will argue that without men there would be no need for military, let alone military deaths, but to argue with such people would not be very edifying.

LoyalMember · 20/05/2026 22:52

Charlize43 · 20/05/2026 22:44

OP - I think you might be a bit too fixated on hating men. Maybe lay off the feminist literature for a while or get some professional help.

When I was in a car smash up it was two male paramedics who saved me.
Years later, during Covid after I had been made redundant and found that I didn't have enough money to pay for my shopping in Lidl and burst into tears because it had all become too much for me, it was a kind older man who came forward and paid for my shopping.

You can go through life hating and blaming someone for their sex, race, religion, etc, or you can try and find the good. Your choice.

Aye, but according to some prominent posters on this thread, they'd have been serial rapists, and wife beaters after work or in their spare time.

Secondtrythebest · 20/05/2026 23:14

treetophome · 20/05/2026 21:16

Geez. This just sounds bitter AF and terminally online frankly. You sound like a female incel.

“Men are redundant”, “ugly hairy bald things”, “pathetic” - imagine a man describing women as saggy, hormonal, boring creatures whose only value is sex and reproduction. You’d (rightly) call him a misogynist.

Also the irony of sneering at men for supposedly being obsessed with attractiveness while writing an entire paragraph mocking ageing and baldness is really quite something 🤣

Female incel, hilarious! FWIW you do not know my sexuality nor my marital status; I suppose I am a misandrist although I try not to think too much about men and by disregarding them from my thoughts I have eliminated all bitterness ;)

ThisCandidMintGoose · 20/05/2026 23:17

Secondtrythebest · 20/05/2026 23:14

Female incel, hilarious! FWIW you do not know my sexuality nor my marital status; I suppose I am a misandrist although I try not to think too much about men and by disregarding them from my thoughts I have eliminated all bitterness ;)

you are writing a lot about a subject that has been disregarded from your thoughts... and it's not terribly obvious you have eliminated all bitterness, what level could it possibly have been before?

Secondtrythebest · 20/05/2026 23:18

Anyways OP you are right, men's problem is that defective Y chromosome, perhaps useful when they had to hunt for days - even though women actually provided the bulk of the food eaten - but nowadays they are at a loss collectively as to their purported "usefulness" in society

Secondtrythebest · 20/05/2026 23:20

ThisCandidMintGoose · 20/05/2026 23:17

you are writing a lot about a subject that has been disregarded from your thoughts... and it's not terribly obvious you have eliminated all bitterness, what level could it possibly have been before?

A lot? You are funny and thank you for taking my little contributions onto a forum as "writing" ; I am all sweetness and light :)

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 20/05/2026 23:23

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/05/2026 16:03

You’ve quoted me and still misunderstood what I wrote.

I didn’t say 98% of men commit violent and sexual crimes. I stated that of the sexual and violent crimes committed in this country, 98% are committed by men. That’s just statistical fact.

I work in a job that sees the worst of humanity. Guess what sex I see the most? If I’m getting off a bus late at night I wouldn’t care if a woman got off at the same time as me. I would if a man did.

It's possible to recognise that men - as a sex class as a whole - are the more problematic sex. I say this as someone with a lovely male partner and nice men in my life.

But what on earth is your reasoning behind suggesting that OP has a point in her frankly nasty assertion that men are useless but for their sperm if you acknowledge that it isn't the male sex as a whole, and that there are indeed a great many of them - one would like to think the large majority - who are lovely, or at least decent enough?

It reminds me exactly of the way that certain notorious people on the extreme right will cite a case of an immigrant who subsequently commits an appalling crime in the UK and declare that we don't want them in this country - with which I would have to agree - but then they use that case to whip up a frenzy suggesting that all immigrants are guilty/potentially guilty of the same as the very bad person; and then even extend it to all British people who happen to have non-white skin.

Why would you not want to judge people on their individual merit (or lack thereof), rather than decrying them all (or almost all) as useless members of humanity, just based on their sex, race, religion, nationality or whatever?

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 20/05/2026 23:24

DogsandFlowers · 20/05/2026 16:13

So the piss ends up on bare feet instead???

At least bare feet are far easier to wash clean than your best footwear!

Terrellium · 20/05/2026 23:25

If it hasn’t been said already, not all adult men could vote until 1918 either. Clearly the pace of change was slower for women, but it was only in the 1860s and 1880s that some working class men got the vote; even then, only about 60% of adult men could vote.

LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 23:27

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AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 20/05/2026 23:30

DogsandFlowers · 20/05/2026 18:01

I still don’t understand why pissy bare feet are preferable to pissy shoes 😂😂😂😂😂🙄

I don't think anybody particularly yearns for either - which is probably a very significant factor in there being far, far more men who will freely urinate in public than women!

But if it does happen, your impermeable feet are far easier to clean fully than shoe material that may soak it in and then stink for weeks, in spite of your very best efforts!

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