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Men... are u okay? What is the problem?

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LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 15:02

I think this will be removed / deleted but i am not saying anything untrue. Or factually incorrect. But here goes...

Since having my little girl just over a year ago I have started resenting men. I dont know why as my partner isnt bad. I just see them in a whole new light.

Firstly, years ago women couldn't vote and it was the done thing that they would look after the children and home and men were the providers. But, many women (not all!) Now have careers, go to work, earn their own money. We can now vote. Aswell as have a career, many women still take on majority of the housework and childcare. Not because men always refuse but they just dont, we do things automatically. Men, just dont think.

The other day I was driving to visit family and saw a car with its hazards on in the slip road... they have broken down i thought. Nope. A man was standing behind his car pissing. It got me thinking, ive never seen a woman pissing at the side of the road. We just wouldn't, so how do men find themselves in this situation? My dog can hold its bladder until "walkies" so what's the issue?

I read that men commit like 91% of murders, most rapes are men and men mostly abuse their partners. Men are more likely to commit suicide, men dont open up and speak about their feelings.. some men transition to become "women" and fight to enter women spaces. I know women transition to men but you dont hear about them!

I just dont understand. Men.. what is the actual problem??? Apart from sperm, what is your actual purpose??

The posts on here today.. oh my man was messaging a coworker inappropriately and he cant get her moved as it'll be suspicious... WHAT!! Nah he has played his part, otherwise it would be as simple as, hey HR this person is being inappropriate and its making me uncomfortable, here are the messages 🤣🤣

Or the other one, my man spent lots of money on my credit card and refusing to pay up... WHAT🤣🤣

What the fuck, we all play our part to with enabling such shit behaviour.

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Goldenbear · 20/05/2026 21:43

LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 21:37

I think men feel powerless at the moment.

They are no longer the breadwinner for many families. They no longer outearn their partners. It must be humiliating to do a full day at work, feel knackered whilst your partner has done a full day, the school run, dinners, cleaning.. oh and still finds time to look after themselves, and talk to family and friends. Why are men incapable of any of that? As a species they have not evolved and I've had enough. My partner said to me the other day, the babies nails are getting a bit sharp havent you cut them?? I looked at him and said yes I will do it but is it purely my job are you incapable??? Oh, erm, ehh, I djdnt mean that. Of course you didnt. Twat.

I thought you stated you had a good man at the start of the thread because of course you have!!

OFiddleDeeDee · 20/05/2026 21:43

shuggles · 20/05/2026 21:37

No, normal single men are extremely common and easy to find... weird that you don't see that.

This post is giving someone bitter about not being picked by the popular guy at work who is married...

ImFinePMSL · 20/05/2026 21:44

shuggles · 20/05/2026 21:34

@ImFinePMSL Because they can usually sniff out incredibly vulnerable and insecure women who are desperate for love, affection and “protection”.

So why do those same women not go after a normal man for a relationship? Given the vast number of single men there are, and how easy it is to find a man who is looking for a relationship.

When you say “normal” man, do you mean a man that doesn’t commit crimes?

Passingthrough123 · 20/05/2026 21:44

LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 21:37

I think men feel powerless at the moment.

They are no longer the breadwinner for many families. They no longer outearn their partners. It must be humiliating to do a full day at work, feel knackered whilst your partner has done a full day, the school run, dinners, cleaning.. oh and still finds time to look after themselves, and talk to family and friends. Why are men incapable of any of that? As a species they have not evolved and I've had enough. My partner said to me the other day, the babies nails are getting a bit sharp havent you cut them?? I looked at him and said yes I will do it but is it purely my job are you incapable??? Oh, erm, ehh, I djdnt mean that. Of course you didnt. Twat.

I'm fast coming to the conclusion that it's not all men, it's just the men you've been in relationships with.

My partner is a primary school teacher who works bloody long and exhausting hours but is perfectly capable of coming home and cooking dinner and helping with chores, as he did this evening. In fact, he's just gone upstairs to hang out the load of laundry that he sorted out and put on earlier, because I hate handling wet clothes (it gives me the ick). Meanwhile, I'm downstairs watching the Villa game. Go figure.

So yes, some men are twats. Particularly yours by the sound of things.

FernFaery · 20/05/2026 21:46

Passingthrough123 · 20/05/2026 21:44

I'm fast coming to the conclusion that it's not all men, it's just the men you've been in relationships with.

My partner is a primary school teacher who works bloody long and exhausting hours but is perfectly capable of coming home and cooking dinner and helping with chores, as he did this evening. In fact, he's just gone upstairs to hang out the load of laundry that he sorted out and put on earlier, because I hate handling wet clothes (it gives me the ick). Meanwhile, I'm downstairs watching the Villa game. Go figure.

So yes, some men are twats. Particularly yours by the sound of things.

Wow that’s amazing that that poster has just so happened to date all the men that make up the very numerous crime and sex abuse stats. How very unlucky for her!

shuggles · 20/05/2026 21:46

FernFaery · 20/05/2026 21:42

92 people (male and female) were killed at work in the last reporting year.

252 women died in childbirth from 2022-2024.

Is this an argument you think you’re winning?

There are about 400,000 cancer cases in the UK each year.

About 4% are occupational.

Men account for 80 - 90% of those.

Also, if I was a woman, I could choose not to get pregnant, or not continue with a pregnancy... on the other hand, everyone needs a job.

ThisCandidMintGoose · 20/05/2026 21:46

LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 21:42

You can be both?

you can be depressed about not being a Stepford Wife AND celebrating being house chores free and rushing to spend all your free time with your friends?
No, you really can't 😂

Passingthrough123 · 20/05/2026 21:47

FernFaery · 20/05/2026 21:46

Wow that’s amazing that that poster has just so happened to date all the men that make up the very numerous crime and sex abuse stats. How very unlucky for her!

She's the one conflating that all men are shit and rapists with the fact she's fed up with her DP and her ex was crap too.

shuggles · 20/05/2026 21:47

OFiddleDeeDee · 20/05/2026 21:43

This post is giving someone bitter about not being picked by the popular guy at work who is married...

I'm a man who is not seeking a relationship.

Walkingroundincircle22 · 20/05/2026 21:47

LeaderBee · 20/05/2026 19:43

Yes, i am aware the gender pay gap is supposedly there because of the disparity where women take time off for maternity and child care, not that women are actually paid less. However those are life choices so im not sure why you think there is a gap...or are you advocating to be paid more for doing less work?

What an ignorant post. Men make these 'life choices' too. Yet they don't forfeit pension contributions, lose out on promotions, earn less bevause of leave, pay more student loan interest because it continues while on mat leave (i don't expect you went to uni to understand).

Good luck to you. If you find yourself divorced one day, you'll see things very differently when you realise how much you 'lost' financially by being a women, or more if you are a mother.

And we thought misogyny was only men.

TheignT · 20/05/2026 21:48

FernFaery · 20/05/2026 21:27

And men don’t do any caring duties such as wiping backsides and bathing elderly people do they? So the feeling is mutual.

They do in the dementia home my relative is in

ImFinePMSL · 20/05/2026 21:53

shuggles · 20/05/2026 21:47

I'm a man who is not seeking a relationship.

Ah! You’re a man!

Yep. That explains your ill-informed incel comment up above then.

You blame women for not choosing the “nice guy”.

Riveting.

spstchmu · 20/05/2026 21:53

LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 15:46

I just wonder why we arent asking what is wrong with men collectively? So everyone who thinks im wrong. Do you honestly think men are fine and its "some" men. I take it when you are raising your daughters you wont be warning them about men?

I dont think youre wrong

FernFaery · 20/05/2026 21:54

shuggles · 20/05/2026 21:47

I'm a man who is not seeking a relationship.

Thank goodness.

SallyAnnDrivesACar · 20/05/2026 21:54

Yet, it is women who give birth and raise these men.

Can't get my head around that.

FernFaery · 20/05/2026 21:55

Passingthrough123 · 20/05/2026 21:47

She's the one conflating that all men are shit and rapists with the fact she's fed up with her DP and her ex was crap too.

So? That doesn’t make all other men amazing.

Passingthrough123 · 20/05/2026 21:57

FernFaery · 20/05/2026 21:55

So? That doesn’t make all other men amazing.

No, but it doesn't make all other men rapists and appalling human beings either.

OP's pissed off with her DP and her ex was no better and now she's started a thread lamenting how crap all men are and expects everyone to nod in agreement.

shuggles · 20/05/2026 21:57

@ImFinePMSL Yep. That explains your ill-informed incel comment up above then. You blame women for not choosing the “nice guy”.

I don't think women should choose "nice guys."

I think that absolutely no one should be having a relationship with someone who has been convicted of murder or rape.

TheignT · 20/05/2026 21:57

Walkingroundincircle22 · 20/05/2026 21:47

What an ignorant post. Men make these 'life choices' too. Yet they don't forfeit pension contributions, lose out on promotions, earn less bevause of leave, pay more student loan interest because it continues while on mat leave (i don't expect you went to uni to understand).

Good luck to you. If you find yourself divorced one day, you'll see things very differently when you realise how much you 'lost' financially by being a women, or more if you are a mother.

And we thought misogyny was only men.

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No one is forcing you to take maternity leave. Personally I thought those months were worth the small difference in my pension. I was very good a my job so I still got the promotions. My employer paid for my studies but don't most people fail to pay off their student loans, they get written off for men and women.

Waitingfordoggo · 20/05/2026 21:57

It tends to be men that kill women after a break-up, not the other way around. You could say many men don’t take break-ups well at all.

EDIT: attempted and failed to quote someone who was suggesting a poster hates men because she hadn’t taken a relationship break-up very well.

LavenderSkiesxo · 20/05/2026 22:00

Passingthrough123 · 20/05/2026 21:57

No, but it doesn't make all other men rapists and appalling human beings either.

OP's pissed off with her DP and her ex was no better and now she's started a thread lamenting how crap all men are and expects everyone to nod in agreement.

No, if my partner could do no wrong I would still think the same. He isnt swaying my opinion. Get a grip.

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FernFaery · 20/05/2026 22:01

Passingthrough123 · 20/05/2026 21:57

No, but it doesn't make all other men rapists and appalling human beings either.

OP's pissed off with her DP and her ex was no better and now she's started a thread lamenting how crap all men are and expects everyone to nod in agreement.

Nobody’s said all men are rapists, but basically all rapists are men.

I feel the posters on here are divided into 2 camps; those who ‘know some nice men, and women can be mean to me’ who are flatly ignoring very basic and overwhelming numerical evidence.

And those who acknowledge some men can be nice, and sometimes women can be mean, but accept the basic and very overwhelming numerical evidence.

Pigeonatthewheel · 20/05/2026 22:04

FernFaery · 20/05/2026 21:42

92 people (male and female) were killed at work in the last reporting year.

252 women died in childbirth from 2022-2024.

Is this an argument you think you’re winning?

A quick Google would suggest that 95% of those killed at work were male. What have women who died in childbirth got to do with an argument (you claim to be winning) over whether women are significantly involved in ‘dirty jobs’ as defined by the poster shuggles. Giving birth is clearly not a job.

FernFaery · 20/05/2026 22:07

Pigeonatthewheel · 20/05/2026 22:04

A quick Google would suggest that 95% of those killed at work were male. What have women who died in childbirth got to do with an argument (you claim to be winning) over whether women are significantly involved in ‘dirty jobs’ as defined by the poster shuggles. Giving birth is clearly not a job.

Because you’re complaining that men are amazing for undertaking these risks, while totally oblivious to the fact women (most women!) take on risks every day by giving birth. Most men do not work in dangerous jobs.

LoyalMember · 20/05/2026 22:13

FernFaery · 20/05/2026 21:42

92 people (male and female) were killed at work in the last reporting year.

252 women died in childbirth from 2022-2024.

Is this an argument you think you’re winning?

You've used the childbirth fatality statistics from three years, but deaths at work from only one year. Why are you skewing the numbers?

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