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MIL & SIL want more.

173 replies

ThisWildHedgehog · 18/05/2026 09:42

I’ve been married around 10 years and have 2 young children.

We see MIL & FIL at least every other week, sometimes more. When we visit, they don’t particularly “get involved” by that I mean they keep Cash in the Attic blaring and neither of them will move from their chairs to play or interact with the kids at any point.

When we leave, it’s a relief, and DH and I both feel the visits are hard work (their home is not remotely baby-proofed). They are also very critical of all of us.

We see all of the uncles and aunts infrequently, maybe a handful of times a year. MIL & SIL have a very close relationship and SIL is lonely. She’s the type of person who would want to text daily and probably see us and the kids multiple times a week. The thing is, both DH and I are not like that. We keep busy and don’t have the time. The time I do have, I’d honestly prefer to spend seeing other people because I have very little in common with SIL and find her emotionally intense. I also feel it would be unfair to my own siblings if I saw her significantly more just because she was the “pushy” one.

Things have now got to the point where MIL is texting me to arrange seeing SIL. If I don’t reply to daily texts, I get prompted. When we visit, conversations are often drawn back to how left out SIL feels (despite the fact she sees the kids more than any other aunt or uncle, so I don’t really understand it). It’s just become awkward. SIL is close to 40, so it feels bizarre to me that her mum is effectively setting up playdates for her. It just makes me feel really uncomfortable.

My husband has tried to talk to his mum and reset the narrative back to reality, as well as express healthy boundaries, but honestly it feels pointless because the next day it starts up again.

When we do visit, MIL will say things to the kids like, “your mummy keeps you from me” or “I never get to see you”. From my perspective she sees the kids a lot and also doesn’t seem to make use of the time she does get. (I’ll add that I’m actually the one prompting DH to visit, so her perception of me feels entirely wrong.)

MIL also makes comments that the kids “aren’t affectionate enough” with her, which I find difficult because I’m not really sure what else we’re supposed to do to facilitate that. DH has gently suggested things like turning the TV off, playing with them, talking to them more, or reading to them (my children absolutely adore books, but sadly neither IL has ever read to them). We do bring the kids regularly, surely a relationship develops through interaction? I don’t know how else to help.

She has now started recording 90% of the time we are there on her phone. I’m talking about me just sat around on the floor playing with the kids and even… recording me while I breastfeed. It feels awkward for her to sit silently unengaged filming me for such long periods of time with no real reason?

I just feel so lost. I’m trying to be a kind DIL, but nothing I do is ever enough, emotionally it’s taking its toll.

What can I do? Should I visit more and text more?

OP posts:
Iocanepowder · 18/05/2026 11:29

ThisWildHedgehog · 18/05/2026 09:56

Well, yesterday was the first time she’s recorded me while I breastfed. DH didn’t notice and I didn’t speak up in the moment. He was annoyed about it when I told him in the car and he definitely would have defended me if seen.

I know this because he’s really told MIL and SIL off previously for staring and also making comments about me breastfeeding previously.

Edited

Stop going there. Shouldn’t be that hard, advise you are busy or have plans and also confirm that as of yesterday, you are no longer confortable to attend due to filming you breastfeed. What utter freaks.

Chilly80 · 18/05/2026 11:37

I'd be seeing them less not more.

HarlotOTara · 18/05/2026 11:39

Just have a conversation, no need for no contact. Say it would be lovely for them to interact more, ask for the tv to be turned off, children need to be able to talk or something and ask for them not to video you if you are breastfeeding or anything else. Did they play with your dh? Sometimes people need to be taught or encouraged to interact as they might not know how.

Of course it is totally up to you how you want to proceed but saying no contact without communicating what could be changed is nuts imo. The consensus on MN seems to be not to talk about anything and have no contact - rubbish for relationships in all their disparate glory

watchingthishtread · 18/05/2026 11:43

You need to opt out of this whole dynamic and let your husband deal with the relationship with his own parents and sister. Make it clear when they contact you that you are not his social secretary and that they can deal with him directly going forward. I bet that your family don't make social arrangements through him.

You don't need to go on these visits. Let him do (or not do) them.

Maray1967 · 18/05/2026 11:45

SparklyGlitterballs · 18/05/2026 09:49

I'd block her number and let her go through DH for all communication. If she asks why then be honest and tell her it's because they don't respect boundaries.

With regard to the filming, tell her quite firmly to stop and that you don't consent to you or the DC being filmed. If she carries on then just get up and leave. You don't have to put up with this and have to be firm.

This!!! No one would have been allowed to record me with my DC, especially not breastfeeding them!

PrehistoricGarbageTruck · 18/05/2026 11:47

She has now started recording 90% of the time we are there on her phone. I’m talking about me just sat around on the floor playing with the kids and even… recording me while I breastfeed. It feels awkward for her to sit silently unengaged filming me for such long periods of time with no real reason?

This is very weird. Has she been watching a lot of 'Here We Go'?

katepilar · 18/05/2026 11:50

They both sound bonkers.
They dont seem to be able to live in the moment and get their need for contact from the visits. Hence the filming.
They would both benefit from therapy, if they were able to see the need.

I can totally understand that you froze when she filmed you. Its so unexpected and weird that it shocks you.

aquitodavia · 18/05/2026 11:50

Tableforjoan · 18/05/2026 10:26

All visits to be at your home as better for the children.

If they don’t like leaving Their home then oh well. Why does there not want to leave trump your want to stay home as well.

She records you she leaves.

Exactly. If they say 'we don't like leaving home', you say, 'oh well, the kids really struggle with coming over and just hanging around while you're watching tv. Never mind, if you change your mind you're welcome anytime.'

Scout2016 · 18/05/2026 11:50

How little are the kids? Park age? You're just going to have to be really blunt - "we are going to the park, meet us there".
Come and feed the ducks with us.
X wants to show off they can ride their scooter.
"X would love you to read this book, it's their favourite" and hand the book over.
X really loves colouring at the minute, we have brought crayons and colouring book we thought it would be nice for you to sit with them and do it.

They will realise their limits and when they moan you have the comeback - we try to initiate interaction, we brought the play doh, you don't want to play/ read with them. They aren't animals in a zoo.

When they moan about being left out again blunt - sorry you feel that way, actually we see you just as often as / more than anyone else. I have seen you twice this month and my sister once.
Then when they bring it up again you stick to "yes you have said you feel that way, and I have told you it's not accurate."

ChaToilLeam · 18/05/2026 11:50

They are weird. It's like they like the idea of being continually present in your lives but not the reality - otherwise they would make an effort, switch the TV off and actually engage with the kids.

Definitely put a stop to the videoing and untrue comments. Just leave if they don't cease. You need to put your foot down here, firmly. SIL's problems are not your problems so I would firmly make that clear too.

My DM also tries to do the gatekeeping thing with my DSis and DNieces, which is daft as all are grown women, and that's exactly what I tell her. Think it comes from a need to still feel at the centre of things. But I don't indulge it.

Feelingstressedbutdoingmybest · 18/05/2026 11:51

Gosh, you're being an absolute saint! Let DH take them to see his parents and give you a break. You really just need to step back and let them feel the way they are feeling because they are not being reasonable.

cheezncrackers · 18/05/2026 11:52

I would reduce visits to MIL and FIL if they can't even be arsed to switch the telly off when you go there and speak to you! I would also ignore any and all texts regarding your sad sack SIL. If she has no life, that's on her and it's not up to you to provide her with entertainment.

Swiftie1878 · 18/05/2026 11:56

Refuse to go to their home. Say you’ll meet at a park or a cafe or anywhere the kids will be OK and entertainable. Just say the kids need fun and stimulation, and visiting their home is too confining for them.
And put your foot down about the recording nonsense. That is bang out of order!

movinghomeadvice · 18/05/2026 11:58

Oh wow OP, that sounds so awful. I grew up with a crazy grandma who was similar - never looked up from the tv while we were there, but then complained that we didn’t come to visit enough. I absolutely dreaded every moment of being there, and was so thankful when we finally went no contact in my late teens due to my drug-addicted uncle hanging around when we visited.

I would do what PPs have said and stop the visits at their home. Be busy all the time taking the kids to the park, playground, activities and always invite them to join you. When they say ‘no’ and then complain later that they are left out, you can say breezily ‘you’ve been invited 7 times to spend time with the children, it’s a shame you weren’t able to come. Oh well maybe next time! DC1 needs to go to the park to learn to ride their bike if you want to join?’.

Also just be less available, don’t answer your phone, take weeks to respond to a message. I stated doing this a few years ago with difficult, emotionally draining people, and they eventually give up because they won’t get their ‘fix’ from you anymore. Whenever people complain, I always just breezily say ‘oh well I’ve got my hands full with the little ones and my job’.

You really need to nip this in the bud, for the sake of your children. Thankfully it sounds like your DH is on board.

MsGreying · 18/05/2026 11:58

Find a park really close to them. Take the kids there and invite them do it on the time you'd be going to theirs.
Then at least you haven't suffered the TV.

CoralOP · 18/05/2026 12:00

ThisWildHedgehog · 18/05/2026 09:48

I should have mentioned that we of course invite them to us as it would be easier with the kids but they “don’t like leaving their house” and therefore will only see us if we go to them.

You are right about the recording, I just find it so utterly AWKWARD that I just pretend it’s not happening 🙃

Awkward....awkward...yeah it's not awkward at all, completely wrong word, it's fucked up. Tell her to unbutton her blouse, take her bra off so you'd can get a video of her, that should solve the problem.
Seriously stop being nice and trying not to rock the boat, tell them to fuck off.

Credittocress · 18/05/2026 12:06

The first time someone made a comment about me breastfeeding I would tell them to fuck off and give me some privacy. I don’t understand how someone gets a camera out and you don’t instinctively say “what on earth do you think you are doing?”

Ethelspagetti · 18/05/2026 12:06

Erm she filmed you breast feeding?! I absolutely would want my husband to tell his mother to delete that and I wouldn’t go around any more. Suggest your husband takes them over for an hour at Easter, their birthdays and around Christmas. They know where you live if they want to schedule a visit.

Flowerlovinglady · 18/05/2026 12:16

You sound extremely accommodating and there really is no pleasing them so expect a bit of nonsense as you pull back but you really do need to pull back. The filming needs to stop too.

HazelMember · 18/05/2026 12:20

ThisWildHedgehog · 18/05/2026 09:56

Well, yesterday was the first time she’s recorded me while I breastfed. DH didn’t notice and I didn’t speak up in the moment. He was annoyed about it when I told him in the car and he definitely would have defended me if seen.

I know this because he’s really told MIL and SIL off previously for staring and also making comments about me breastfeeding previously.

Edited

Why can't he still defend you now?

NewGoldFox · 18/05/2026 12:23

Nothing is ever going to be good enough. Pull back and enjoy your time with your children, not wise to allow them to be around people who will always be finding fault.

Member984815 · 18/05/2026 12:23

Stop visiting the house ask them if they want to join in a day out or visit your home . Being recorded is awful . They seem so intense is there a fil in the picture?

CookingFatCat · 18/05/2026 12:27

Sounds awful, just send your DH with the kids.

Tulipsriver · 18/05/2026 12:28

The first time someone told my young child "mummy keeps you from me" would result in an ultimatum. Say it again and we stop visiting completely. Same with recording breastfeeding, that's a huge invasion of privacy.

Honestly, why are you putting their feelings ahead of your's and your children's? Do your little ones enjoy sitting at their grandparents regularly whilst they watch their choice of TV and largely ignore them? Every once in a while, fine. But think of the things you could do with them if you skipped some of the visits. I'm sure they would get more out of a trip to the park, library, or museum (invite your in-laws if you don't want to feel guilty, if they refuse because they prefer being at home that's their choice).

outerspacepotato · 18/05/2026 12:33

You sound like a pushover and it's time to find your voice and assert yourself with them.

You have a busy young family and it's only going to get busier as time goes on and the kids have homework and activities and friends. You're not going to be seeing them more, in fact it's going to be less. Your MIL and SIL are trying to engulf you and your family to meet their social needs and want to amp up the visits and that doesn't work for you.

The filming is creepy and stops immediately. Tell your MIL no, she can't film you at all, much less breastfeeding. If you get roped into going there again, say no and leave immediately if she starts to film you.

You are not your husband's PA, tell them they have to contact him to arrange visits. If they keep calling, block.

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