How did Tyson Fury’s daughter get married at 16?

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I thought they changed the law and you had to be 18 in the UK?

Still 16 in Scotland.

It's called introspection. I don't personally possess any of the characteristics that make the English so reviled around the globe but that doesn't mean that I fail to understand why people feel the way that they do about us. We have an awful history, full of cruelty the world has never seen. People don't just forget these things.

A hobby for dull people perhaps?

Well you certainly don’t possess modesty or a talent for historical nuances, I’ll give you that.

Yeah............ No. It's just you hun.

Because certain posters are so desperate to support removing kids from education at 11 and marrying them off at 16 that their defence is that the system they are being removed from is shit.

Actually, I think you would both have got on well with Rudyard Kipling. He saw other nationalities and other ethnicities as monoliths as well. The way you've cheerily deemed traveller girls to be undeserving of the same rights of other girls in the UK because it's their "culture" is so reminiscent of Kipling's pronouncements about Indians in books like Kim.

But if she doesn’t have her own money, she doesn’t have independence. If things go wrong, she could be manipulated or even cut off financially by her husband and even by her father, if she makes a life decision he doesn’t approve of. This limits a woman’s options, and she’s more likely to stay in a bad situation because she doesn’t have the means to get out. This is the case regardless of culture.

So supported by her father then her husband. Well that’s something to aspire to.

You are right, people struggle to understand why taking someone out of education at 11 and training them to be a wife and mother and to live off their fathers then their husbands is a good thing.

Yes. What is the relevance to this thread and which countries are you referring to?

Exactly this. Relying on someone 100% is madness. However I assume they will have to stay married regardless of how well it goes so I suppose he can’t leave her.

@InstantlyBella , as someone who also travels a lot, in my experience, even in the (rare) situations where a person starts with a negative view of you due to being English, if you are respectful of their culture, polite and friendly, any negativity rapidly dissipates.

If you're frequently finding yourself disliked when traveling, could I suggest behaving pleasantly? I'm sure you'll soon find it's your behaviour, rather than your nationality, that people find objectionable.

You do know arranged marriage was also practiced in the western world, right? And it still is in some places.

Other cultures think child marriage and FGM are fine and dandy. I have every right to judge things that actively harm people (especially children.)

Good thing I'm not English then! I'm British (too much of a mongrel to be anything else, I've got Welsh and Scottish blood as well as English.) And I'm part Italian. I had a Maltese lady take a good look at me once and ask me if I had Spanish blood, when I said no, but I had an Italian grandmother, she said she thought I looked like I had some Mediterranean in me somewhere.

I admire her for wearing crocs on her wedding day, loved the biggie smalls song walking down the aisle but thought the sunglasses were ridiculous on a rainy day.

However I wish her and her husband all the best.

'The system..' ? 🤣
Education is a direct threat to a patriarchal structure. That is why it is denied to young girls in many cultures. Education empowers woman. It supports the development of critical thinking skills which is not conducive to enforcing maintaining the gender based roles expected of women in many cultures.
Education and exposure to all that it brings impacts on the ability to maintain such a misogynistic environment, can't have anyone challenging that 🙄
Denying girls the access to education has been used as a tool since, forever. Girls and women who have no real options are crucial to keeping the patriarchal status quo 🤷‍♀️

Are you thick or did you just miss the part where I say she earns her own money? And yes that is definitely something to aspire to. Imagine being so loved, looked after and protected that you have not one but two men wanting to do the best by you. I get that you people don’t want that for yourselves and you pride education and all that but it’s not needed here we’re wired differently.

Very good advice. Hopefully, that poster can take it on board. (And hopefully the small handful of others on here who seem to think the English are loathed worldwide will take it on board too.)

As an English person, I have travelled fairly extensively over the years (some 2 dozen countries over 4 continents) and have found everyone I have met in every single country, to be polite and pleasant and welcoming. I have never experienced any vitriol or negativity. The only time I see it is on here (from a few people not many thankfully,) and occasionally on other internet forums. And it's always English people bashing the English... No-one I know in real life (who is English) hates the English. Not one person.

As you say, if you experience non English people being nasty about the English, then maybe you need to adjust your behaviour accordingly, because everyone I have met in other countries has been nothing but pleasant to me. (And people from other countries - who are visiting England or staying here - are pleasant and cordial too.) But then, I am pleasant and welcoming too. I have never given anyone any reason to be rude or unpleasant.

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Why are you always so defensive?

Wow. Gaslighting

That’s not true and I don’t know why yous think divorce doesn’t happen here. There’s many divorced woman and men in my community, most re-marry

There's so much wrong with this I'm not going to waste my breath.

You're totally right. You're very clearly wired differently.

I'm off to bed with my husband who loves me very much, even though I've got a degree. Mind blowing.

No. Its the nationality.

Bollocks

Some of the posts on here are outrageous aren't they really?

I am gobsmacked at some of them. I really need to log off before my head explodes! 😵