How did Tyson Fury’s daughter get married at 16?

[Wouldcou]

I thought they changed the law and you had to be 18 in the UK?

Doubt it- they have both been brought up by their parents to respect marriage, and the longevity of marriage vows. Tyson spoke to strongly about that during the second series, and I respect that.

No, you don’t, this is a public forum. If you think any of the rules have been broken, by all means report it.

Safeguarding children is everyone’s business. No under 18s should be married, in any culture. But in this case we’re talking about the travellers’s culture and of course we can do so, don’t be ridiculous.

They both look so much older than they are. I wonder if that's intentional.

Regardless of what community the 16 year old child is from - it would still be wrong. I can’t direct message any of the kids I coach in sport - and they are 16 & 17 - because of safeguarding - they’re still children and all comms must go via the parents.
they’re still vulnerable at that age.

I think it's important to recognise that different cultures have different traditions.

It's also important to ensure that, where those traditions discriminate against a particular group, they are called out and challenged.

FGM is a "cultural tradition" amongst some groups. Doesn't mean we shouldn't comment on it.

You are not asking me but yes of course I would. I don't get your point? Well I get the inference of course but it's wrong.

@Wouldcou
Do you think that the UK is only England? You realise there are other nations and islands with their own laws, yes?

Child protection is everyones business.
Children being forced to finish their education early is a safe guarding issue.

Probably at skin colour. When non-white immigrants do it they are (rightly) criticised for not integrating and having outdated and sexist attitudes. These things shouldn’t be accepted, let alone respected, because ‘culture’.

Normal doesn’t make it right.
Many things used to be normal - corporal punishment of children in schools, women having no right to vote, divorce, hold property. Homosexuality being punished with prison.
Thankfully, some people challenged the normal. Things changed and society moves on. A child being married is not something to be celebrated in this day and age.

Pretty much everything discussed on MN is non of our business. It’s a forum specifically for gossiping about stuff that’s none of our business.

Don't be ridiculous. Cultural traditions absolutely need to be "commented on" when they're harmful or not in someone's best interests. Like FGM/circumcision, rape within marriage for example. Or indeed children getting married.

Well they’re in the public eye. So it’s actually everyone’s business- the family have made it this way 🤷‍♀️

I don’t see the problem with the marriage, it is part of the culture. Many of these girls only get freedom when they’re married as they’ve no freedom before marriage. If they went wayward and slept around before marriage. The couples are close in age and it gives freedom to both.
I grew up around travelling people, I know many who’ve had long happy marriages.
The Romanian travellers get married at 15 in the front garden, illegally married but off they pop with the new husband.
Travelling women are tough and don’t put up with crap off their man, obviously some do put up with domestic abuse but no different from settled men who beat their wife.
I wish them well.

Child protection! 😂

How much of Noah and Venezuela have you watched? She’s got her head screwed on and he is besotted. Lovely young couple.

Plenty of young people, funnily enough, do still prioritise romance, marriage and starting a family early. Good on them!

No, you don't.

No cultures are above judgment.

Do not comment on other cultural traditions? Why? We have free speech here and we can think whatever we want. Anyone can comment on any tradition, as long as they are not being offensive. To disagree with a practice is not the same as being offensive.

Do you think nobody should have commented on female genital mutation then? That’s cultural. We don’t allow people from such cultures to conduct that practice in the UK.

The fact is that getting married at 16 is very irregular in the UK. Children who are Venezuela’s age and year group in the UK are currently taking GCSEs. In most of the UK it isn’t legal for 16 year olds to get married.

To me, it feels just really scary. The law is in place in most of the UK to protect teens being pressured by family/culture and to protect them from a lack of education and consequent financial vulnerability. Are we just saying fuck it, never mind in Venezuela’s case? Her husband is an adult male and he’s having sex with a 16yo child.

This is perilously close to saying that FGM is therefore ok because it is done in other cultures. It’s not a western colonial lens to believe we shouldn’t mutilate girls. Unless the brown ones don’t deserve the same protections? Which seems a problematic attitude………

The brain does not reach adult maturity at 25. that is a myth based on one study that did not even say that. brains never stop developing.

When did that become a rule? Too much abuse is excused as "cultural".

She looks much older than 16.

Yes she can.

It may not be the done thing in her community but don't pretend she can't.

Does that mean FGM shouldn't be talked about? You know, other cultural traditions? Or forced marriage? Amazing how so many of them are harmful to women (girls).

She has a wonderful father in Tyson Fury.
Never have to worry about money.
Always be protected. Lucky girl.

Can't help but think this is some kind of bitterness because somebody of his background should not be rich.

As for her husband being an adult, he's 3 years older not 30!