How did Tyson Fury’s daughter get married at 16?

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I thought they changed the law and you had to be 18 in the UK?

You can still get married at age 16 without permission in Scotland ( although that may change).

The Isle of Man is not part of the UK. Also, the Laws in the 4 parts of the UK are not all the same.

If you don't work, how do you earn money and pay into a pension?
Everyone has the right not to work, it's the consequences which are the problem.

Let me ask you a question. Did you go to state school or private school? And what were your circumstances at home?

Good circumstances or struggling circumstances?
They all affect your life at that age as much as an education does

It really is quite remarkable that in any other circumstance, if a poster was worried about their 16 year old daughter a) going out with a 19 year old and b) wanting to marry him, replies to the OP would be all over SAFEGUARDING ALERT, call the police, dont let her out, etc etc etc

But because this is apparently 'cultural', it gets a pass

Really?

We are talking about the traveller lifestyle right. Traditionally, the man works and gives the woman money

I think it’s grim.
I think most traditional things (especially those rooted in religion) are definitely not right.
again, it’s grim

It seems wedding vows meant nothing to his dad either.

How is this relevant? You have been saying all school and education is bad.

We don't do pensions.

Many gypsy women work.

Seriously, why are the suicide and domestic abuse rates in the Traveller community so high, if the life is so good? Why is the miscarriage and still birth rate for the women much higher than the general population?
Do people not think child marriage and lack of education is at least part of the cause of these things?

I never wrote "all education is bad".

I wrote that "many schools are horrendous".

And I wrote that there is an unfair system.

Those that can afford to pay for private education - receive a better education.

I was just talking to a teacher recently who worked in private and public schools. He said thar the difference in education is absolutely huge between the schools.

The post didn't refer to the Traveller lifestyle. It was about "the right not to work". Everyone in the UK has that right.

I wonder about these posters backgrounds too, passionate about education, yet 10,000’s of working class people attend school and leave school without an education due to their home life.
You would think travelling girls where the only group that formal education wasn’t beneficial to in society.
Again as a society we’re progressing.

You English lot - I’m not English.
Ironic though, considering the rest of your post.

And yes, I have noticed that. And I have also noticed how, when someone pops up to point it out, they’re often going to go on to mention Scotland, completely ignoring the fact that Wales, for example, not only exists but also, often, has the same law as England.

Again, ironic…

But she isn't a woman.

Stop it now.. this is bullshit ..I live in ireland and loads of travellers there and i can assure you they attend school until they're 18 and do A levels..and I don't know what else you think happens but please bloody educate yourself

Except plenty of people don’t follow that exact path. I would agree with school/work being usual. The rest of it is up to the individual. (I know it’s a shock for MN but not everyone goes to uni or married/has babies)

Do you honestly think it’s better to do school for a limited time, marriage at 16, cleaning, babies by 17, train the girls to clean and marry, grandmother by mid 30s, great grandmother by 50s?

What part of that is living rather than existing?

In the Isle of Man, you can vote and pay taxes at 16.

Again with the ‘you lot’ - I’m not English, which rather makes the rest of your post laughable.

Why not, unless you have evidence that Muslim girls brains mature earlier.

Read an article the other day about the new laws the Taliban have just introduced in Afghanistan about child marriage ( has to be approved by a father or grandfather) and sanctions against domestic violence ( a woman has to appear before a panel of men, she is not allowed to show any injuries or bruises, and oh , and she has to be accompanied by her husband while she describes the abuse). There was also a condition I can’t quite remember about how when you are asked about something in your relationship ( in front of your husband) and your response is silence then it is assumed you have consented to whatever it is you have been asked about . Also applies only to women of course.

Not all cultural practices are valid, and morally acceptable, and it is surprising how many of them negatively impact womens lives and how few negatively impact mens lives.

I was thinking the same. DS is 16, doing GCSEs. He plays in an adult sports team but he cant be part of their WhatsApp group because of safeguarding, and DH is the contact for him. Unless I'm paying for a flight I dont think of him as fully adult yet

You seem to have the wrong poster.
I never referred to Gypsies or Travellers.

In Scotland for certain elections, including the recent Scottish Parliament elections, 16 year olds can vote.

I don't think its BETTER. But I think she should be able to do it withiut causing shock and controversy. Look at the amount of shock on this thread.

The same - if a woman doesnt want to get married or have children at all, she should be able to do it with no judgement.

You don't seriously think that a view that 16 year olds arent mature enough to be getting married is bitterness that one of them happens to be from a wealthy family do you?

What a ridiculous notion