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To ask how to cope with a kid who is just so irritating?

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roamfarandwide · 17/05/2026 08:45

I feel horrible saying this but I am on my last nerve with my five year old. I find him so irritating and I’m sure he must sense it and it must impact his self esteem.

Constant talking. A lot of it makes virtually no sense - I’m sure it does to him but it’s this stream of consciousness that is hard to decipher … he was wittering about these ‘three tigers and if they said no then they’d be there but if they didn’t then they would wouldn’t they mummy …’ and it’s almost always when I’m trying to get everybody ready or dealing with something else and I just don’t have the time to stand there and ask leading questions to work out what he’s on about. I was trying to leave for work the other day and he was just stood there wittering about something … horrible I know.

The noise, my god. So loud. Yes of course I’ve asked him nicely to make less noise. Sometimes he does for seconds later it to start again. He was playing some game this morning involving throwing a large monster truck around in the room with wooden floors and all I can hear is crash bang crash … just so wearing.

Stupid behaviour … nearly had to take him home from a party last week for throwing ketchup around.

Winding sibling up and making her scream. Messy and leaving things lying around.

I do work on it. I really try hard to address the behaviours. But the problem is I’m constantly on at him, I mean all the time. (and doing the ‘tell him what he should be doing’ doesn’t work - he often needs telling really firmly and sharply to knock it off.)

I feel horrible.

OP posts:
roamfarandwide · 17/05/2026 14:47

SomeBastardHasSquashedAFrog · 17/05/2026 13:57

Is this the kid that licks his sister constantly? Not read full thread but it reads very much like that poster who couldn’t stand the kid and would write multiple posts about him. No judgement as he did sound extremely irritating

We definitely don’t have that problem - yet! Not me!

Will read rest of posts now …

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FernFaery · 17/05/2026 14:50

DavesGirl90 · 17/05/2026 14:11

I’m genuinely upset by this post. I’m here to say anyone who posted that they recognise this behaviour and medicated their own child because of it - you are a bloody terrible parent.

And I am normally never judgemental of other people’s parenting, unless they are abusive. Which medicating a normal child for your own convenience is.

I’m not upset about OP calling her son annoying - we’re all human and it doesn’t make you a bad parent at all (so long as you don’t tell them!), but yes medicating your 5 year old is something else entirely

roamfarandwide · 17/05/2026 14:53

@DavesGirl90 I have been quite clear I’m not even close to considering a diagnosis never mind medication!

My post was about my own reaction to ds. I don’t want to be a horrible nag, telling him off and being negative all of the time but I worry that’s what’s going to happen. Like now he has dropped a (toy!) knife from the kitchen, dropped it on the floor, argued and whined about picking it up and then eventually did with bad grace and rubbed it on DDs head on the way to putting it away.

DD is a girl. She does generally seem a calmer breed although ds is a lot nicer without her (she is also a lot nicer without him; I sometimes fear i made the wrong call having more than one.)

OP posts:
Phineyj · 17/05/2026 15:39

DavesGirl90 · 17/05/2026 14:11

I’m genuinely upset by this post. I’m here to say anyone who posted that they recognise this behaviour and medicated their own child because of it - you are a bloody terrible parent.

And I am normally never judgemental of other people’s parenting, unless they are abusive. Which medicating a normal child for your own convenience is.

No-one is giving ADHD medication to a 5 year old.

I do have good news though which is that ADHD medications don't work on those without ADHD.

DavesGirl90 · 17/05/2026 16:39

roamfarandwide · 17/05/2026 14:53

@DavesGirl90 I have been quite clear I’m not even close to considering a diagnosis never mind medication!

My post was about my own reaction to ds. I don’t want to be a horrible nag, telling him off and being negative all of the time but I worry that’s what’s going to happen. Like now he has dropped a (toy!) knife from the kitchen, dropped it on the floor, argued and whined about picking it up and then eventually did with bad grace and rubbed it on DDs head on the way to putting it away.

DD is a girl. She does generally seem a calmer breed although ds is a lot nicer without her (she is also a lot nicer without him; I sometimes fear i made the wrong call having more than one.)

Sorry I didn’t mean to imply you were a terrible parent. Your reaction sounds totally normal. I have an incredibly hyperactive destructive son of a similar age so I do totally understand the feeling that all you do is nag them, and the worry about that. Mine is also awful around his sibling.

I was talking about those reading like ADHD into this perfectly normal behaviour and talking about how medication helps and so on.

Verityandsquab654 · 17/05/2026 16:51

roamfarandwide · 17/05/2026 13:46

Thanks all. I know I’ve missed some posts.

I’m definitely not going to get him on the waiting list for an assessment. I’m not sure they’d accept him anyway on the basis of what I’ve said.

Re the monster truck, he wasn’t throwing it to be badly behaved, it was part of a game. Just loud and annoying … which is kind of the problem.

@Verityandsquab654 i don’t know where you got the strangers house from? He was at a soft play party and squirted some ketchup, got some on his hands and started smearing it on his face. Stupid behaviour and I told him very firmly to stop or we would go … but nothing like what you’ve described.

I see as well as ds being diagnosed I have been as well. I don’t think I am autistic but I do probably have a low tolerance for under 7s generally. I do try to be patient but sometimes it’s hard work!

Sorry I misunderstood op! You said “Stupid behaviour … nearly had to take him home from a party last week for throwing ketchup around” so you weren’t terribly specific and then you joked again about stopping him from covering everyone in ketchup, so there wasn’t a huge amount to go on, but totally my fault for making a wrong assumption.

I understand that you are at the end of the rope but I did express sympathy in my post and offered several different suggestions so it’s interesting that you hone in on the negative only. I’m not saying this to be goady and I get that you are tired but could it be that you are giving, without knowing it, more attention to the negative than the positive when you are relating to your ds? And that’s why he repeats it, because it gets the most response?

PicaK · 17/05/2026 17:23

WhatHappenedToYourFurnitureCuz · 17/05/2026 11:16

This is like a parody. If the boy doesn't have ADHD then the OP must be autistic.

No that's my lived experience and as I clearly stated I've offered it as food for thought or something to explore.

roamfarandwide · 17/05/2026 17:23

Well, you did say straightaway that he clearly lacked boundaries! I was a bit bemused at the strangers house thing to be honest - why we’d be at a strangers house I don’t know. I’ve actually only been to one party held in someone’s house thank god and I watched him like a hawk because I know he can be silly and do stupid stuff when in an over excitable mood. But kids do get stupid at parties; I’m not taking that as a sign of adhd or lacking boundaries!

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WhatHappenedToYourFurnitureCuz · 17/05/2026 17:37

PicaK · 17/05/2026 17:23

No that's my lived experience and as I clearly stated I've offered it as food for thought or something to explore.

As I said, it's like a parody.

OnSky · 17/05/2026 19:38

DavesGirl90 · 17/05/2026 14:10

Is your other child a girl OP?

I will get eaten alive for this here possibly, but there are massive behavioural differences for girls and boys at this age. Most, not all of course.

What you are describing is so normal for a boy. If your other child is a typical girl that will be why it seems strange to you.

I am actively upset by people suggesting you medicate this child. WTF. No please do not medicate away your child’s personality in order to make your own life marginally easier.

I have a very long background in early years, research and experience. The number of mums who came to see me about their boys…were nearly always those that had a girl first, the stereotypical girl who liked sitting colouring, drawing, threading beads, crafting.

When we talked, they recognised the difference that their boys presented and the differing things they needed to do to support them.

As I said above, absolutely no suggestion that the OP’s son is ASD or has ADHD. Active play needed. Involvement, interest, developing concentration and independence. Using schema to support his play.

I despair at the ‘ASD’ claim, always on here at the tiniest suggestion that a child might need some strategies to help with play, some support, some engagement from parents. A diagnosis includes a full team of professionals over a period of months, observing, working with parent and child, assessing the child. Not a quick bit of information about the usual behaviours of a child.

Thankfully, the OP is much more sensible than rushing to diagnose.

Tableforjoan · 17/05/2026 19:46

Well I opened this thread ready to say I avoid them. But then I read it was your own child 😅

I’ve no idea but it sounds draining.

PermanentTemporary · 17/05/2026 19:54

I’m sorry I haven’t read every single post.

It’s tough when you are tired at this stage. I’d say keep it simple and praise the positive. Obviously if something is being thrown about you take it away immediately but you also immediately say something positive about the fact that it’s stopped (even if it wasn’t him who stopped). You mention that he was better behaved than you expected on the way back from the swimming pool. So you paste on a smile and say ‘wow it’s a pleasure hanging out with you guys, you’re doing so well! You talk to each other so well! You’re reading, that’s great’ etc etc. Likewise, you went to the party and he behaved well. You lavish a firehose of specific positive feedback to him. If you’re doing that, you can also ask for quiet time, or at least say you’re not going to answer for a few minutes because you’re thinking. It will get easier.

CaffeinatedMum · 17/05/2026 19:59

I could have guessed your child was five just from reading the thread title. He sounds the exact same as my five year old, it’s really tough (although mine is year one). I feel guilty for how exasperated I must sound all of the time. I have also questioned ADHD but he has no signs at school and I’m not sure at this stage what getting on a waiting list would achieve. I have however been looking at some ADHD parenting techniques to see if that helps and I figure it will take a while to see if that pays off. I know a couple of my friends have similar experiences with their sons - surely they can’t all be ADHD?

AgnesMcDoo · 17/05/2026 20:02

Lastofthesummerwines · 17/05/2026 08:55

My DS has ADHD and he's 21 now and annoys the hell out of me. We clash so much due to his constant questions and righteous digs. Nothing you do is right and he can always think of a way to do it better .. I put it down to anxiety. He's like it with everyone. Why are you mowing the lawn like that, you should do it like this. Why have you put that there. He goes into shops and moves things about and questions people 🤣 he was always a strange kid and now he's a strange adult 🤣 actually writing it down sounds even worse than when he's annoying me and I'm in my own head about it ha.

What you’ve described is exactly like my 17 DS who has ADHD

OnSky · 17/05/2026 20:05

@roamfarandwide

There is a recognised school of thought within behaviour management that suggests any attention, including negative attention, can feel preferable to no attention at all. This is not a criticism of children’s behaviour, but an acknowledgement of how negative interaction patterns can become reinforced over time.

In schools, behaviour support is usually structured, consistent and incremental, with a strong focus on positive reinforcement.
The process typically follows a clear cycle:

1.Identify one specific behaviour to change
This is agreed collaboratively with parents or carers and should be clear, realistic and achievable.

2.Give a clear instruction
For example:
“When you come into the house, you put your shoes on the shoe rack.” ( or whatever annoys you and is an achievable change

3.Model the expectation
The adult demonstrates the behaviour so the expectation is explicit and understood.

4.Reinforce immediately with specific praise
Praise is directly linked to the behaviour:
“Well done for putting your shoes on the shoe rack.” (Whatever you want to address and us achievable)

5.Use consistent positive reinforcement
Longer term reinforcement, such as a sticker chart or agreed reward, may be used to strengthen motivation and consistency.

6.Minimise/ignore attention on low level unwanted behaviour
Unless behaviour is unsafe or presents a safeguarding concern, minor negative behaviours are not given attention.

7.Repeat and build on success
Once the behaviour becomes established, a new target behaviour is introduced and the cycle begins again.

It shouldn’t take long to turn the negativity around and support your DS’s self esteem.
The aim is to shift the child’s experience of attention away from negativity and towards success, recognition and positive engagement.

Good for the child and good for you.

Verityandsquab654 · 17/05/2026 20:07

roamfarandwide · 17/05/2026 17:23

Well, you did say straightaway that he clearly lacked boundaries! I was a bit bemused at the strangers house thing to be honest - why we’d be at a strangers house I don’t know. I’ve actually only been to one party held in someone’s house thank god and I watched him like a hawk because I know he can be silly and do stupid stuff when in an over excitable mood. But kids do get stupid at parties; I’m not taking that as a sign of adhd or lacking boundaries!

Op if this in response to me I don’t want to argue with you because I responded initially bc I genuinely wanted to help, but I didn’t actually say that he lacked boundaries. I actually said that was one possibility and listed several if you read my post properly. I deliberately made an “either or” statement which is not definitive. And again you have gone straight to the negative.

And tbh I find it odd that you are focusing on the location rather than the behaviour! Throwing ketchup about is the issue, not whether it was done in someone’s home or at soft play! Honestly why does the location matter?

Fwiw, nearly all of the parties my dc attended were at people’s homes so it wasn’t that outrageous an assumption!

And to be clear, the reason I said that in response to the example you gave about the ketchup, is you said that your ds doesn’t take much notice when you say no nicely, and you hate continually saying no, so I suggested that more clarity may be in order. I don’t think that was unreasonable or particularly unkind.

I said that was one of several possibilities and then gave several hopefully helpful solutions which you have entirely ignored.

I confess that I am the one getting irritated now so best I leave the thread. I do genuinely hope that you have found this discussion helpful overall though.

AgnesMcDoo · 17/05/2026 20:07

Notmyreality · 17/05/2026 09:16

And this thread is a stellar example of why we have an epidemic of over diagnosis of adhd & autism.
1st response - you sure he doesn’t have adhd?

written by someone who has no clue how incredibly difficult (if not impossible) it is to get diagnosis of either 🙈

roamfarandwide · 17/05/2026 20:12

Oh come on @Verityandsquab654 , there is a difference between throwing ketchup in a house and at a soft play party! Anyway, I don’t want to argue either.

Thanks all. I was very grumpy when I started this thread. He’s been OK today apart from interrupting bedtime with DD to tell me something and ignored me asking him nicely to wait so I did snap at him. We’re OK though. He’s a nice boy, just gets really stupid sometimes and especially around some other kids. (Unfortunately including his own sister!)

OP posts:
roamfarandwide · 17/05/2026 20:13

AgnesMcDoo · 17/05/2026 20:07

written by someone who has no clue how incredibly difficult (if not impossible) it is to get diagnosis of either 🙈

It’s difficult on the NHS. Very honestly, privately it isn’t. That isn’t to say that private diagnosis’ aren’t correct or are inaccurate but they aren’t hard to get.

OP posts:
Verityandsquab654 · 17/05/2026 20:15

roamfarandwide · 17/05/2026 20:12

Oh come on @Verityandsquab654 , there is a difference between throwing ketchup in a house and at a soft play party! Anyway, I don’t want to argue either.

Thanks all. I was very grumpy when I started this thread. He’s been OK today apart from interrupting bedtime with DD to tell me something and ignored me asking him nicely to wait so I did snap at him. We’re OK though. He’s a nice boy, just gets really stupid sometimes and especially around some other kids. (Unfortunately including his own sister!)

We’ll have to agree to differ on that point. Glad today has been better for you both though.

Notmyreality · 17/05/2026 20:59

AgnesMcDoo · 17/05/2026 20:07

written by someone who has no clue how incredibly difficult (if not impossible) it is to get diagnosis of either 🙈

Actually the opposite. Written by someone who found it all to easy to get a diagnosis of adhd. One which we subsequently rejected as we trusted our instincts and which has since proven correct.

EdgeofaRevolution · 18/05/2026 10:42

AgnesMcDoo · 17/05/2026 20:07

written by someone who has no clue how incredibly difficult (if not impossible) it is to get diagnosis of either 🙈

As others have said, it really isn’t if you go private.

I know a few adults and a couple of kids who have obtained a diagnosis (all private) very easily.

Having spoken to them, I don’t think it has actually benefited them in any positive way. It’s just made them more anxious because they all think there’s something wrong with them. Not to say they’re not having some genuine struggles in certain areas but so are 99% of the population!

Ultraalox · 18/05/2026 16:17

roamfarandwide · 17/05/2026 20:13

It’s difficult on the NHS. Very honestly, privately it isn’t. That isn’t to say that private diagnosis’ aren’t correct or are inaccurate but they aren’t hard to get.

Not difficult - expensive!
I think those who pay privately are probably at the end of their tether and need help now, not in 3
years. Families are taking out loans to pay for the assessments not throwing 1500-2K away on a whim! & you still have to pay for the medication or fight for it to then be prescribed by the GP. 😥

PassOnThat · 19/05/2026 14:42

DavesGirl90 · 17/05/2026 14:11

I’m genuinely upset by this post. I’m here to say anyone who posted that they recognise this behaviour and medicated their own child because of it - you are a bloody terrible parent.

And I am normally never judgemental of other people’s parenting, unless they are abusive. Which medicating a normal child for your own convenience is.

Bizarre.

ADHD is a neurological condition involving impaired neural connections and chemical imbalances in the brain. Medication is aimed at increasing the level of neurotransmitters within the brain to help treat the symptoms of ADHD.

Medication can be life-changing for those with ADHD in helping them to function 'normally' (i.e. in the way society expects) but does not work in the absence of ADHD. So medicating a 'normal child' would have no benefits for parents.

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