AIBU to think this quote sums up Tommy Robinson and his supporters?

[Gingerbreadtree]

The quote is taken from the British philosopher Bertrand Russell's essay on Fascim in 1940,

"The first step in a fascist movement is the combination under an energetic leader of a number of men who possess more than the average share of leisure, brutality, and stupidity. The next step is to fascinate fools and muzzle the intelligent, by emotional excitement on the one hand and terrorism on the other."

To me it sums them up, but it sums up a lot of the far right in general. The same could be said about Farage and many of his supporters too.

Human bean? Is that a new Heinz variety? But don’t you think by demanding males be seen as women, they are invalidating women’s lived experience? Or do women not count? Why do you believe a man who says he’s a woman over a woman who says he’s not? Surely women are the best judge of who is a woman?

Elon Musk. Why can't you write his name?

And yes men are men. Because they just are. No matter what style of t-shirt they wear.

Nobody is the best judge of being a woman other than the person who says they are a woman. You don't have access to their mind, you have no idea what they feel inside. So you just make a judgement based upon how you feel about men, which yeah I get men are horrible. But trans women are not men. They are women just like us. They are every bit the victims of toxic masculinity and patriarchy that we are, so why we can't have some solidarity with one another I have no idea.

Whenever I see his name it triggers some pretty traumatic memories of my experience with hateful incels on twitter, and I'd rather not have to be reminded of the hurtful things they said. Sorry.

Ah, so you are just an old fashioned sexist after all. Just as I thought.

So can you explain what is a woman? If it is not an adult human female, what is a woman? How are you defining women to include all females and some males? Do try not to use gubbins such as “feelings” or outdated sexist stereotypes.

This may have already been said, (CBA to read 300 responses,) but as the old saying goes, left wing and right wing are two cheeks of the same arse. They're both as bad as each other. I find some left wing, (particularly far left,) as repugnant as I find some right wing (particularly the far right...) I can't stand The Green party or Zack Polanski, nor can I stand Tommy Robinson.

Oh wonderful, please answer my question but don't actually use the actual answer because I've decided I don't like that particular answer.

Nice try sweetie 🙄

Human bean! Epic typo @InstantlyBella 😆

Just playing with ya!😘

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So you’re saying you can’t? Awesome. In that case you have just confirmed TW are in fact men.

Your answer was non-sensical.

If "woman" is just a feeling in someone's mind, and no one knows what anyone else is feeling, why are you so sure that trans "women" have anything whatsoever in common with female people at all, or even with each other?

How can this feeling, which individuals might all call "being a woman" but actually neither you not anyone else have any idea whether they are feeling the same thing or not, nevertheless be sooooo important that we overlook all the very obvious physical differences of sex and the undeniably different physical, social, economic and risk conseqeunces that comes with that difference, and say all the protections and rights, even the language and history, of female people is open to anyone who says they "feel like a woman inside"?

Do you really value female people so little as that?

You don't have access to their mind, you have no idea what they feel inside.

exactly. And no man knows how women feel inside. Therefore they are not ‘feeling like a woman’, it’s just their perception of what it feels like to be a woman. By their own admission frequently driven by excessive viewing of porn. Or societal stereotypes.

All ‘transwomen’ are born male by definition so as they reach adulthood, they are men.

Utter bollocks.

I suggest you look at Matt Rattley who works at Oxford University then come back to me about offensive stereotyping and appropriation

Tommy is very misunderstood. It is better to listen to yourself to what he says. every day his DMs are full of people who say I used to hate you I used to despise you and they now apologise for being wrong. Tommy was right about the grooming gangs and terrorism. He been talking about it for 20 years.

Best to hear from him yourself and make your own mind up.

Probably those whose daughters have been raped /murdered by illegals and those who object to little children being slaughtered at a dance class in the name of "diversity"
Thats who they want to ban

@Gingerbreadtree , this sounds like anyone on the extremes of politics to me including the far left and also people of extreme religious views.

Even though I don’t vote Green, I tho k the comparison of them with the far right is utterly laughable.

Hmmm - so Zac Polanski wants to nationalise key industries, does not see a place in society for those who oppose his views, hates capitalism, blames the problems we face on millionaires, billionaires and Jews and to top off he is also a vegetarian. Now who does that remind you of?

“Hmmm - so Zac Polanski wants to nationalise key industries, does not see a place in society for those who oppose his views, hates capitalism, blames the problems we face on millionaires, billionaires and Jews and to top off he is also a vegetarian. Now who does that remind you of?”

Worth repeating!

Well tbh I think no government could do worse with nationalisation than their previous owners. There plenty that really should be nationalised. I suppose if you support “Tommy Robinson”, you’ll think differently.

If you think Governments are efficient at spending money or running businesses then you are deluded:

https://dailybusinessgroup.co.uk/2026/05/hs2-costs-rise-as-trains-may-be-delayed-until-2043/

More so to Zack Polanski and his followers.