AIBU to compare pro-Palestine and Tommy Robinson-led protests? Both involve hatred antisemitism or racism and both end up in trouble. Two cheeks of the same ass as I've heard on here before!

[HeyHoHenryHippy]

Pro-Palestine and Tommy Robinson-led protests this Saturday with yet again thousands of officers having to spend the day controling these protests. Surely there is a better way. Static protest or once a month for Gaza? I think Tommy's lot isn't weekly like the Gaza lot.

Antisemitism is a major problem and general racism also up. Armoured vehicles are needed now with the first time in 15 years to use them. Terror incidents have risen yet what have either of these 'protests' achieved apart from further divisions!

Stick them in separate areas and tell them to stand with their various placards and keep them there. They ave their virtue signalling and hate fuelled moments but stop annoying the rest of us and keep the costs down - it's costing millions of pounds.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15816041/Met-Police-call-armoured-cars-London-braces-day-pro-Palestine-Tommy-Robinson-led-protests.html

Pro-Palestine marches - for the love of god….

Talk about suicidal empathy.

If you had read my posts without jumping in being judgemental you would see i was referring to both sides.

Really? I have loads of time on my hands to list all my destinations ive been too! (Not) its lots though, in 4 diff continents thanks for the interest though! 😊

Islam isn't a race though because many races are muslim due to their colonial expansion. The crusades halted the spread of Islamism into Europe and are a valid part of our history to be studied.

Ok - apologies I’ve misunderstood- I can’t always keep track of every poster’s post but that’s on me and I am sorry for being judgemental.

My comments on why Palestinian marches occur stand (except the judgy judgy bit) - my thoughts on the Tommy March are actually it was pretty incoherent why on this Saturday. But generally I see protest against asylum claimants, broadened out to full re migration preferences by quite a few. The wanting Britain back is a big thing, but never clearly defined and I suspect has as many different ideas on that as there are marchers with a smattering of unicorns.

I get the concern re immigration to an extent - though it’s nowhere near my views - but I think false info out there isn’t helping - I include all governments being complicit in that - I can’t justify protesting outside hotels, that should go to the government as responsible. I think they have a right to express non hate filled views, to March on the government and to protest against our immigration policies.

My personal reasons are no hate, love not hate, be nice etc - I also strongly believe in the right to protest and freedom of speech/opinions - it gets sticky where it tips into hate speech or incitement.

I will March against racism and fascism as long as I’m able - I definitely believe that their views are scary to our society- but I definitely also want to live in a country where they are allowed to protest too. Just scrap the extreme hate really.

Do you then judge all marches? Think they shouldn’t happen? I would argue that tbf, but all views are interesting- until they’re hate filled of course.

You made a number of claims, in particular, the extremely serious claims that Swastikas are openly carried at pro-Palestine marches, and that Holocaust memorials are defaced - which includes, by inference, the march on 16th May. These are claims you made - don't be suprised when you're asked to back them up.

You haven't "referred" me to reports from the Met. You've said that Met updates on Twitter over the past few years back up your claim about violence and arrests. But haven't provided links, to those updates or to a Met report. I'm not "ignoring" these supposed updates - I'm waiting for you to provide links to them, to substantiate your claims.

As you mentioned Palestine Action - who were not, by the way, the organisers of the march on 16th May - the High Court ruled, in February 2026, that the proscription of Palestine Action as a terrorist organisation was unlawful, on the basis that the Home Secretary failed to comply with her own policy when making the decision to proscribe, and that the proscription breached the rights of Freedom of Expression and Assembly protected under Articles 10 and 11 of the ECHR. The government is appealing the ruling.

The proscription of PA in July 2025 came in not because of alleged violence on marches, not because of alleged desecration of Holocaust memorials, not for allegedly waving swastikas - it came in after some members of PA broke into Brize Norton and spray painted two aircraft. The proscription was described by the UN as "disproportionate and unnecessary" and "[something which] conflates protected expression and other conduct with acts of terrorism". - https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/07/uk-palestine-action-ban-disturbing-misuse-uk-counter-terrorism-legislation.

According to a Wikipedia article, just over 3,000 people were arrested between July 2025 and April 2026 for support of a terrorist organisation, namely PA. Most of these arrests were at sit ins on 9th August, 6th Sept and 4th October, and at silent vigils in November (all 2025). None of these arrests were for violence, displaying Swastikas or defacing Holocaust memorials. There is no information I can find about how many of these arrests led to court hearings and guilty/not guilty conclusions. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Action

When you're able to provide data to back up your claims that violence, open display of Swastikas and defacing of Holocaust memorials are chatacteristics of pro-Palestine marches, I'll be very happy to read it. In the meantime, for the record I'm not a member of Palestine Action, nor a member of any of the groups that organised the march on 16th May, nor have I participated in any marches.

https://forward.com/fast-forward/568141/london-holocaust-library-defaced-latest-incident-pro-palestinian-graffiti-jewish-site/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/anne-frank-statue-amsterdam-vandalized-gaza-graffiti-rcna161325

Sadly there are a number of incidents around Europe with Holocaust memorials defaced.

The first I shared was London, the second Amsterdam. There are many across Europe with the same pro Palestine message

"Two men have been arrested at a pro-Palestinian march in London, according to the Metropolitan Police.

One of the men was taken into custody for carrying a swastika emblazoned placard and another for allegedly making racist remarks towards counter-protesters, police said.

Read more: news.sky.com/s...

It doesn't matter how much evidence you present to show, some will remain adamant antisemitism is not a left wing problem.

"Police seized a placard at Saturday’s pro-Palestine demonstation suggesting Israel was carrying out a Nazi-style genocide.

Two officers challenged one of the demonstrators after he was spotted carrying a small handwritten cardboard poster that drew a timeline between the German mass extermination of Jews in the 1940’s to the Israeli bombing of Gaza this year.

The Nazi swastika had been drawn alongside the “1940’s holocaust” section and then a Star of David from the Israeli flag was etched next to the “2023 holocaust”.

A clip posted online showed the protester complaining that “freedom of speech” should allow him to draw the comparison. However, the officers insisted “you can’t display the Nazi symbol in public”.

#palestine #protest #london

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Is there if you care to Google, I don't wish to share more and more but if you search you will find arrests

Just a quick google shows arrests over the years at pro Palestine protests since October 7th. Most go to YouTube where the original news article can be viewed. It's there to view

It remains a massive problem. Kemi Badenoch has said she would ban the marches. Much of it, imo, is a front for antisemitism so I'm not taking requests for evidence seriously. It's clear where the major problem lies.

Page not found on the Sky link I’m afraid @HeyHoHenryHippy

Anyway, some who should be looking at any links you find will just refuse to look if they think it will challenge their fixed opinion, so I wouldn’t bother trying too hard to find evidence for them.

Has she? That makes me like her more. She has been the first major political leader to take a genuinely tough stance on antisemitism I think.

She said it during an interview with Camilla Tominey:

https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/2055947244378193960/mediaViewer?mode=profile&currentTweet=2055947244378193960&currentTweetUser=GBNEWS

I already cited in a previous post that there were two arrests for alleged hate crimes at the 16th May march. Although, this Telegraph article doesn't say the individual was arrested, just that his "small, handwritten cardboard poster" was seized. I also said, in a previous post, that existing laws can - and do - deal with anti-Semitic and/or hate inciting behaviour. Which the article you link to demonstrates.

What I've repeatedly asked the other poster for is the data about her claims that pro-Palestine marches are characterised by violence, the waving of Swastikas, the defacing of Holocaust memorials.

Characterised by: "to have a specific feature, quality or trait that is typical, obvious or defining of a subject."

Synonyms:
Defined by: highlights the core elements that shape an entity.
Marked by: Focuses on a standout feature.
Typified by: Shows an example that represents the whole.

And I'm still waiting for that data.

Appalling examples of anti-Semitic behaviour.

Which do not prove or disprove the claims made by the other poster of the behaviour of marchers attending marches in London.

You can access the data by observing events as they are reported/downloaded. Did you miss the clip calling for Jews to be beheaded while shouting free Palestine? Even after terrorist attacks such as Golders Green people like you will still feign ignorance. Why would I waste my time presenting you with specific links that only the blind aren't aware if its existence. You find it hard to believe about Swastikas even though Jews have been told Hitler was right, hissing sounds replicating the gas Chambers have been made at Jews. In fact, there are so many well documented incidents that I have to question your agenda here.

Ah OK, so you want to just stick to evidence at the marches? Got it. Unfortunately terrorism and hate speech doesn't just contain itself to every Saturday.

Again, appalling examples of anti-Semitism. Which neither prove nor disprove the claims made by the other poster about the behaviour of marchers on pro-Palestine marches in London.

I don't understand how all the people who attended the Tommy Robinson hate March on Saturday haven't been arrested and thrown in jail for at least 3 years yet? Why are we not doing something about this?

Because then they’d have to arrest all the people on the pro Palestine hate march as well.

What, all of them?