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To stop asking MIL to babysit, when we don’t need it?

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wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:22

My MIL very much wants to be the involved grandma who is asked to babysit our children (6 and 2) and DH is very keen for his mum to feel included and important as a grandmother, so we ask her to babysit. The problem is that whenever we actually do ask her, she doesn’t really do what we ask. It’s never anything catastrophic, but it’s consistently frustrating. She’ll keep our eldest up far too late because she doesn’t want to properly enforce bedtime, so we then get back an overtired, emotional child. She’ll let our toddler skip naps or completely ignore routines because she thinks “one day won’t hurt,” when of course it absolutely does when we’re then left dealing with the fallout. She also has a habit of giving treats, screen time, or freedoms we’ve specifically said no to, and generally treats our parenting preferences more like optional suggestions than actual instructions.

So instead of childcare genuinely helping us, it often creates more stress afterwards. Before anyone says “well, let DH deal with the aftermath then,” yes, he often does. But that doesn’t magically solve the issue. I’m still in the same house listening to overtired children screaming, struggling, and melting down, and I’m hardly going to sit there with my feet up while my kids are miserable just to prove a point. Their difficult evening still affects the whole household, regardless of whose “turn” it is to manage it.

The key point is that we are not remotely short on childcare. My side of the family help and actually respect our routines and boundaries (DH agrees that this is the case), and if needed we also have paid childcare options who, unsurprisingly, do exactly what we ask. So this isn’t about necessity at all. It’s much more that DH feels guilty because his mum clearly wants to feel needed, involved, and chosen, and he worries that not asking her more often will hurt her feelings. On Sunday we went out because apparently MIL was sad that she hadn’t been asked to babysit in a while, whereas my mum had been a lot recently. To me it felt almost like she hadn’t had her turn to play with the toys and is in a mood about it - they’re actual living humans!

Childcare isn’t a charitable role you hand out to preserve a grown adult’s sense of importance. She absolutely loves the children, and I’m not trying to cut her out or stop her seeing them, but I am increasingly struggling with the idea that we should knowingly make our own lives harder, and our children’s evenings harder, just to protect her feelings. Seeing them with us present apparently isn’t the same thing to her. AIBU to think that “wanting to feel included” isn’t enough reason to keep using someone for babysitting when they repeatedly ignore how you want your children cared for? And how do others navigate this without it becoming huge family drama, especially when your husband seems more focused on not upsetting his mother than on whether the childcare is actually helpful?

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Gloriia · 14/05/2026 07:47

Papersquidge · 13/05/2026 21:59

At the end of the day, they are your children. If you genuinely have a need for childcare then it’s great she can help out. Otherwise, she isn’t entitled to look after them regularly. Visit while you guys are there, yes, but that’s as far as it needs to go.

You have nothing to justify. It’s a perfectly reasonable boundary.

They are also her hushand's kids? This isn't about 'childcare' it's about how enriching it is for both dgc and dgp to have a good, close relationship.

Granny is indulging the dgc. Unless she was was actually doing fulltime childcare then these rigid regimes will not be affected.

A dgp gave one of ours icecream for breakfast on holiday once. They did not go on a 'sugar high' rampage for hours nor did they meltdown at any point.

Let grandparents spoil the dc a bit. The relationship they have is more important than rules.

Cornflakes44 · 14/05/2026 08:18

Lot of replies on here, basically grandmothers should be able to do what they want, their rights come first and any questioning or boundary setting and you’re an ungrateful bastard. Wild.

gingercat02 · 14/05/2026 08:19

I was going to say that! Sugar high is nonsense. Obviously massive slices of cake regularly isn't ideal.
She sounds very like my MiL, "Granny's Rules" were always informed. We just eye rolled and got on with our lives.
My nephews are 24 and 22, DS is 18. Everyone survived and they are all very fond of their grandparents, but join in the eye rolls now.

rommymummy · 14/05/2026 08:35

Maybe drop the kids to her after nap and pick up before dinner. Just a short time so she can’t mess with naps and bedtimes.

I all for building family bonds but if demands to have your kids alone is not ok with you then you dont have to

HyggeTygge · 14/05/2026 08:35

Gloriia · 14/05/2026 07:47

They are also her hushand's kids? This isn't about 'childcare' it's about how enriching it is for both dgc and dgp to have a good, close relationship.

Granny is indulging the dgc. Unless she was was actually doing fulltime childcare then these rigid regimes will not be affected.

A dgp gave one of ours icecream for breakfast on holiday once. They did not go on a 'sugar high' rampage for hours nor did they meltdown at any point.

Let grandparents spoil the dc a bit. The relationship they have is more important than rules.

Let grandparents spoil the dc a bit. The relationship they have is more important than rules.

So are you saying they should ignore the MIL's rules about only seeing the kids on her terms without the parents, or continue to go along with them at the family's inconvenience?

Pricelessadvice · 14/05/2026 08:41

Is it normal for kids to be so affected by a one off day of treats or a later night? When me and my sibling stayed at my GP for 2-3 days during holidays (they lived a little further away so made sense to have us for a little longer), we would have a different routine to normal and more treats/later nights, but it really didn’t affect us once we got home apart from being maybe a bit more tired than normal.

Darking · 14/05/2026 08:51

I would ask dh to have a carefully worded rehearsed chat with dmil (you can roleplay his mum!) to the effect that he and you want dmil to be a part of the core family group raising the kids, but all her treats, late bedtimes and lack of rules aren’t helping to raise the kids, because it creates so many extra problems.

So dh should say, if dmil can promise to abide by the household rules then she’ll see the kids more often, they will see her as a proper granny and not someone who comes bringing gifts - explain that love isn’t transactional and they already love her but they’ll love her more if they don’t just associate her with being spoiled.

Remind her the phrase “spoiled rotten” was coined for a reason - it rots your child’s development as they grow up if they are given too much for no reason.

I would however make concessions for naptime and accept that kids will be short tempered and wired from time to time as granny won’t get it nailed every time. That’s an acceptable trade for letting her have some quality time with the kids.
Naptime can be very difficult so I do understand missing naps is one of the things I’d permit. Instead when my Dpil babysit the kids are in bed at 7pm (toddlers) or 7.30pm (from age 5 through 12) or 9pm age 12 onwards. Hilarious as dd15 stays up til 11.30pm. But dpil have no intention of entertaining her all evening!

Finally I’d really really try and spend more time all together with her - when she sees how you both parent she might realise how different her approach is.

My mum wasn’t too bad but she definitely liked to spoil my kids from time to time. Sometimes i did have to step in to moderate it. The main problem was my mum could never see when my kids were hyper from being overtired. She would purse her lips and say “another nap? They are still full of energy!” But not notice (or wasnt there to notice) they were fractious and later in a foul temper if the nap was skipped.

Gloriia · 14/05/2026 09:07

Pricelessadvice · 14/05/2026 08:41

Is it normal for kids to be so affected by a one off day of treats or a later night? When me and my sibling stayed at my GP for 2-3 days during holidays (they lived a little further away so made sense to have us for a little longer), we would have a different routine to normal and more treats/later nights, but it really didn’t affect us once we got home apart from being maybe a bit more tired than normal.

Exactly. Ours are close to their dgp who do indeed treat them sometimes.

Even out dog has a different bedtime at my parents, so what. When people support you it's nice not to be bossy imo.

comoatoupeira · 14/05/2026 09:11

This is so common. Grandparents think that they have the right to give treats and throw the routine out of the window because then they get more love from the children. It's needy and sometimes narcissistic. Honestly these grandmas need therapy to understand why they are so needy. In my experience it's because they feel guilty about the way they parented you or feel like they did so much and didn't get the love back. So now they are just exploiting the situation of not having to deal with any consequences to make the grandchildren like them more.

2031MummyTBC · 14/05/2026 10:29

comoatoupeira · 14/05/2026 09:11

This is so common. Grandparents think that they have the right to give treats and throw the routine out of the window because then they get more love from the children. It's needy and sometimes narcissistic. Honestly these grandmas need therapy to understand why they are so needy. In my experience it's because they feel guilty about the way they parented you or feel like they did so much and didn't get the love back. So now they are just exploiting the situation of not having to deal with any consequences to make the grandchildren like them more.

Ugh yes. I empathise with it because I’m not granny age yet, who knows what I’ll be like…

But the bribery and zero discipline pisses me off. It’s unnecessary and a lazy way to placate children or buy love.

My ILs go one step further and undermine us when we try to tell off our own child. It feels like watching a bratty sibling get out of trouble, rather than us being parents.

Naturally, visits and days with GPs have reduced.

GreenAcre100 · 15/05/2026 00:04

I’ll swap you OP, just had another dreadful evening/night routine with no family help and DH and I are at each other’s throats. I can’t imagine how lovely it would be to have family help even for a few hours, to look after DC and step out in the evening and celebrate our wedding anniversary which is today - you wouldn’t know it though.

If I had half the help you do, I wouldn’t worry too much about a change in routine. You are extremely lucky to be surrounded by so much family support. Reading with envy!

Endoadnowarrior · 15/05/2026 02:05

Why does she have to babysit? Why cant she just come over and have a cuppa and spend time with you all? Or play with/see to the kids/keep an eye on the kids for an hour or so whilst you get on with jobs in the house that are better done without kids mithering you?
That way you can maintain routines and boundaries?

Gymnopedie · 15/05/2026 03:21

Endoadnowarrior · 15/05/2026 02:05

Why does she have to babysit? Why cant she just come over and have a cuppa and spend time with you all? Or play with/see to the kids/keep an eye on the kids for an hour or so whilst you get on with jobs in the house that are better done without kids mithering you?
That way you can maintain routines and boundaries?

Because that is not good enough for her. She doesn't want to spend time with them all, she says that's not being a proper grandma. Only having them on her own, no parents present, counts as being a granny as far as she's concerned.

OP does she ever join you on days out? Or is it alone or nothing?

Endoadnowarrior · 15/05/2026 04:22

Gymnopedie · 15/05/2026 03:21

Because that is not good enough for her. She doesn't want to spend time with them all, she says that's not being a proper grandma. Only having them on her own, no parents present, counts as being a granny as far as she's concerned.

OP does she ever join you on days out? Or is it alone or nothing?

Thats clearly batshit though, right?
OP - Tell her you can't afford to go out every blinking week? Regardless of her not following your routines, why on earth is allowed to control/influence how you are spending your time?

And why on earth is your DH entertaining this nonsense? Needs to be nipped in the bud ASAP! Its as much your DH enabling his mum that's allowing this to continue!

C8H10N4O2 · 15/05/2026 08:02

Pricelessadvice · 14/05/2026 08:41

Is it normal for kids to be so affected by a one off day of treats or a later night? When me and my sibling stayed at my GP for 2-3 days during holidays (they lived a little further away so made sense to have us for a little longer), we would have a different routine to normal and more treats/later nights, but it really didn’t affect us once we got home apart from being maybe a bit more tired than normal.

That isn’t what the OP is describing.

Yes I also remember my DC visiting DGP and being delighted at the extra piece. of cake/ice cream/slightly later bed time. I remember doing the same. Most often it would be the whole family together, especially when the children were as young as two.

Neither of our parents ever demanded weekly sole charge of our DC for several hours simply to plonk them in front of screens and feed them cakes and do nothing with them (because its too tiring). Nor did they expect us to go out and then come back to deal with the fall out at the end of the evening.

Its two entirely different situations - most DGPs would be in the first category, the OP’s MiL is in the second.

Gloriia · 15/05/2026 08:59

Endoadnowarrior · 15/05/2026 02:05

Why does she have to babysit? Why cant she just come over and have a cuppa and spend time with you all? Or play with/see to the kids/keep an eye on the kids for an hour or so whilst you get on with jobs in the house that are better done without kids mithering you?
That way you can maintain routines and boundaries?

Sometimes with uptight parents staying for a cuppa is frustrating and boring tbh. Dm hovering and parroting the rules, stressed kids melting down and having dramas etc.

They are often far better behaved away from parents. Not all obviously, just the uptight ones with strict nap times whicn are totally unnecessary imo once over 18mths. Yes they'll nod off in a car or pushchair but surely no need for regimented curtains drawn 'put them down to nap' once older.

thepariscrimefiles · 15/05/2026 09:25

HoldMyWine · 14/05/2026 07:43

Another MIL who can’t do right for doing wrong and will always be second best to your mother. I can’t wait until my son’s have children.

But OP's MIL isn't trying to do the right thing. She is repeatedly doing the wrong thing against OP's expressed wishes. She isn't trying to please OP and failing. She is deliberately ignoring OP's requests so if OP doesn't want her MIL to keep giving them junk, the only way she can enforce this is to stop MIL having them on her own. She is welcome to join OP, her DH and the children for days out but she only wants to see them on her own so that she can flout OP's perfectly sensible rules. She sounds like a pain in the arse.

Lavender14 · 15/05/2026 10:29

Gloriia · 13/05/2026 21:11

Yes it makes you wonder what kind of strict military regime is in place at home for the kids to unravel so much after being with Granny.

I think these comments are really ridiculous tbh - it suggests there's no middle ground between military regime style parenting or absolutely anything goes.

Op sounds pretty normal to me and the issue that's coming across to me in her posts is that while once a month is manageable, granny is pushing for this weekly. Which would then become unmanageable and granny is guilt tripping op and blaming her when ops points are valid, that this as a monthly thing is fine but that it would be a problem weekly. The fact granny can't see or refuses to see that this is a natural consequence to her determination to override any of op and her husbands boundaries, is what's creating the issue.

That doesn't make op ott, it makes her a responsible parent who's trying to preserve the grandparent relationship while trying to keep some structure for her kids around someone who wants more but also is actively undermining ops parenting.

As a youth worker I've worked with so many families with grandparents like this. It's all fun and games when the kids are small when when you've a teenager who's out of control and running to grandparents to avoid being parented it's a complete mess and incredibly destructive to the child, their self worth and their relationships with everyone. Op is (rightly) looking at the bigger picture with this and I think she'd be mad to give in more than once a month tbh.

comoatoupeira · 15/05/2026 11:50

What interests me is what is behind these dynamics. It’s almost rebellious behaviour, like the grandparents are getting their own back on their kids teenage years?
It’s so painful as an adult to see that your own parents disregard you, and don’t respect you. It seems that they only care about the love of their grandchildren and not their children?
I don’t think I’m the only one who feels that my parents are mostly interested in our children, and not in us.

comoatoupeira · 15/05/2026 12:01

It also feels like grandparents have a really selective memory of being parents themselves, like they claim we never had meltdowns and coped fine with an improvised nap routine. They seem totally out of their depth in many situations that aren’t all lovely lovely, even though they surely did it themselves 35 years ago.

Drivingmissrangey · 15/05/2026 12:09

Ask her to babysit in the evening so she has to deal with bedtime?

This is such a short term problem I really wouldn’t worry about it. Naps especially won’t be an issue for much longer, similarly the kids will be able to better cope with a later night.

jinglejanglescarecat · 15/05/2026 21:33

Gloriia · 15/05/2026 08:59

Sometimes with uptight parents staying for a cuppa is frustrating and boring tbh. Dm hovering and parroting the rules, stressed kids melting down and having dramas etc.

They are often far better behaved away from parents. Not all obviously, just the uptight ones with strict nap times whicn are totally unnecessary imo once over 18mths. Yes they'll nod off in a car or pushchair but surely no need for regimented curtains drawn 'put them down to nap' once older.

Aren’t you lovely?! 🙄

are you a granny who knows best by any chance??

Ignoring the parent’s wishes and creating mayhem when the babysitting isn’t even needed just sounds controlling really.

I don’t understand why some grandparents do this as it just ruins the relationship. There’s a level of entitlement nowadays where some GPs think it’s their right to do what they want.

OP should do what’s right for her family. grandma already knows what’s she’s doing is not ok. She’ll have to step back for a bit.

Gloriia · 16/05/2026 18:33

jinglejanglescarecat · 15/05/2026 21:33

Aren’t you lovely?! 🙄

are you a granny who knows best by any chance??

Ignoring the parent’s wishes and creating mayhem when the babysitting isn’t even needed just sounds controlling really.

I don’t understand why some grandparents do this as it just ruins the relationship. There’s a level of entitlement nowadays where some GPs think it’s their right to do what they want.

OP should do what’s right for her family. grandma already knows what’s she’s doing is not ok. She’ll have to step back for a bit.

No if you read the thread I've said I'm a parent not a mil nor a dgp. Kids now older but when younger they'd spend time with dgp and I left them to it. My parents obviously brought me up and pils my dh without any dramas or problems so I naturally trusted them. Dgp should be allowed to treat the dc, parents do all the boring rules.

A lovely relationship between dgp and dgc is far more important than how many biscuits the dc had.

karinahh · 16/05/2026 19:11

I don't think grandparents like this are a positive influence. It's all about their needs, above all else. I agree with @TomatoSandwichesthat you need to fimly push back and not reward toddler like manipulation from her.

comoatoupeira · 16/05/2026 20:19

But why should ‘grandparents be allowed to treat ggp, parents do all the boring rules?’
Shouldn’t parents have the right to actually be rewarded for all the love and graft they put in by actually being seen as great by their kids, instead of just harsh compared to the grandparents?
why should parents have to suffer the consequences of treat times with grandparents, along with everything else they have to do?

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