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To stop asking MIL to babysit, when we don’t need it?

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wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:22

My MIL very much wants to be the involved grandma who is asked to babysit our children (6 and 2) and DH is very keen for his mum to feel included and important as a grandmother, so we ask her to babysit. The problem is that whenever we actually do ask her, she doesn’t really do what we ask. It’s never anything catastrophic, but it’s consistently frustrating. She’ll keep our eldest up far too late because she doesn’t want to properly enforce bedtime, so we then get back an overtired, emotional child. She’ll let our toddler skip naps or completely ignore routines because she thinks “one day won’t hurt,” when of course it absolutely does when we’re then left dealing with the fallout. She also has a habit of giving treats, screen time, or freedoms we’ve specifically said no to, and generally treats our parenting preferences more like optional suggestions than actual instructions.

So instead of childcare genuinely helping us, it often creates more stress afterwards. Before anyone says “well, let DH deal with the aftermath then,” yes, he often does. But that doesn’t magically solve the issue. I’m still in the same house listening to overtired children screaming, struggling, and melting down, and I’m hardly going to sit there with my feet up while my kids are miserable just to prove a point. Their difficult evening still affects the whole household, regardless of whose “turn” it is to manage it.

The key point is that we are not remotely short on childcare. My side of the family help and actually respect our routines and boundaries (DH agrees that this is the case), and if needed we also have paid childcare options who, unsurprisingly, do exactly what we ask. So this isn’t about necessity at all. It’s much more that DH feels guilty because his mum clearly wants to feel needed, involved, and chosen, and he worries that not asking her more often will hurt her feelings. On Sunday we went out because apparently MIL was sad that she hadn’t been asked to babysit in a while, whereas my mum had been a lot recently. To me it felt almost like she hadn’t had her turn to play with the toys and is in a mood about it - they’re actual living humans!

Childcare isn’t a charitable role you hand out to preserve a grown adult’s sense of importance. She absolutely loves the children, and I’m not trying to cut her out or stop her seeing them, but I am increasingly struggling with the idea that we should knowingly make our own lives harder, and our children’s evenings harder, just to protect her feelings. Seeing them with us present apparently isn’t the same thing to her. AIBU to think that “wanting to feel included” isn’t enough reason to keep using someone for babysitting when they repeatedly ignore how you want your children cared for? And how do others navigate this without it becoming huge family drama, especially when your husband seems more focused on not upsetting his mother than on whether the childcare is actually helpful?

OP posts:
wrinklycactus · 13/05/2026 14:20

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:42

@AnotherNameChange1234567 she can take them to her garden for a quick run around but says 2 is difficult to manage in an open space / out and about, but also that the little one is difficult as he doesn’t like to stay in the pram for long but also won’t walk fast at a zoo, the 6yo is high energy as 6yos are… or that it’s just “nicer” at granny’s house (I think it’s laziness tbh)

So hang on... she wants sole charge of the children... but doesn't actually look after them properly, leaves them overtired and overstimulated, insists on being an 'involved grandma' but can't even be bothered to take them outside? Plonks them in front of the TV?

Err what?

She's got you wrapped around her little finger OP and I agree with posters saying she is manipulative. Some people don't even get to be grandparents, let alone dictate and demand how things should be.

Honestly you just have to be blunt about this and deal with the fallout. She has had her go at raising children and doesn't get to place these kinds of demands on you. I hate to be that person saying grandparents need to know their place, but in this case, she really does need to be told.

ThatHappyBlueCritic · 13/05/2026 14:20

I can totally see spending time with grandparents as a special memory with being allowed to bend the rules. I don’t think those kind of visits were every 2 weeks though at least in my opinion that doesn’t make them special that makes them regular events! And regular times you are then having to deal with difficult children afterwards.

Tell DH children aren’t dolls to appease his mother and an every so often visit where she gets to spoil them is fine but for regular babysitting it’s not acceptable and as she won’t listen she can visit with you and DH present and only have occasional babysitting. Good luck don’t let MILs wants trump what is best for you and the kids and ask DH why he thinks his mothers wants are more important than his kids needs. As I said occasionally spoiling all good in my opinion, but regularly complaining and guilt tripping to them make it harder for the parents is ridiculous!

thepariscrimefiles · 13/05/2026 14:20

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:29

@Octavia64we frequently invite her on days out and she says it’s not the same. She complains that she feels like a “visiting grandma rather than family”. Sole care is the only thing that seems to be that’ll make her feel “like a grandma”…
And DH is v concerned about giving this to her as our kids are her only grandchildren

Your kids aren't toys or props for your MIL to play with or use as validation for her 'favourite grandma' status.

If your DH insists on letting her have her own way, he needs to be the one to tell her that she must stick to your rules in relation to food/treat,s screen time and bed time.

It's harder work for her to engage them in other ways, but if she insists on having them on her own, rather than having a nice time with them with you there, that is what she will have to do.

Iwanttobeafraser · 13/05/2026 14:22

I see both sides. I think once a month, you're being a bit harsh. A large slice of cake isn't ideal, but once a month, it really isn't a big deal. But it IS perfectly reasonable to say to her that if she wants More time, then it has to be less about granny, fun time.

I had a similar conversation with my MIL years ago. When I came in from a day out while she looked after the DC at her house (she lived in another country and we visited only annually), and foudn her hand feeding 18 month old DS the world's largest easter egg. Inside I was rolling my eyes it was so ridiculous and she was clearly worried I'd be cross but I basically said that if she was looking after him routinely, then no, this owuld NOT be okay, but as this is a once a year thing ... I wasn't going to get worked up.

On that same trip however when she kept wanting him to stay up late at night I told her that in that case, DS could come sleep in her room and wake HER up 515 times a night. He went to bed on time after that. Grin

SomedayIllBeSaturdayNight · 13/05/2026 14:23

Trinketmarch · 13/05/2026 14:10

While it's true that contact with a loving grandma is great for kids, I would also be very reluctant for her to have regular sole care if she is not actually capable of prioritising their wellbeing above her own wishes. IMO the way she is looking after them is not loving, she is just indulging herself at their expense. I couldn't let anyone do that to my kids.

What is the advantage to them of sole care with grandma vs grandma coming over to play with them whilst mum and dad are also at home? None, I'd say. The kids should come first and while a relationship with grandparents is hugely beneficial to them, it doesn't have to be one that is completely on the grandparents' terms. If grandparents insist on this is shows that they don't have the kids' best interests at heart. Things may change as they get older - naps and sugar and bedtimes will matter much less in a few years.

I think you need to be very direct with her that if things don't change, it'll be game over for babysitting until they are bigger.

Totally agree with this. It all seems to be about her and what she wants. There is no need to her to have sole care of the children when she could spend time with you all as a family.
She might be upset, but you need to hold your ground.

Lifestooshort71 · 13/05/2026 14:26

I think you don't like her. I think you think she doesn't like you. I don't understand why you see it as a battlefield and why you can't sit down with her and explain, kindly, politely and firmly, what it is that upsets you so much about her shifts and work at it until she agrees. Tell her that the children are very lucky to have a granny who wants to be so involved but that it needs to work for you all so could she please respect bedtimes, nap times, big lumps of cake (I've forgotten what else there was tbh...). Please be kind if you have this conversation, many parents on here would give their eye-teeth for an involved mil.

godmum56 · 13/05/2026 14:27

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 13/05/2026 13:41

Isn’t the whole ‘sugar high’ something that has been debunked?

yup. I suspect its more the granny behaviour than the sugar https://www.eatright.org/health/wellness/healthful-habits/sugar-does-it-really-cause-hyperactivity

having said that, the kids (and your) well being trumps Granny's need to have what she wants and I think you need a serious chat with your husband.

Sugar: Does it Really Cause Hyperactivity?

Round up a group of kids for a party, give them some cake and soda, and before you know it they’ll be bouncing off the walls, right? Not exactly.

https://www.eatright.org/health/wellness/healthful-habits/sugar-does-it-really-cause-hyperactivity

hahabahbag · 13/05/2026 14:29

If you were my dil i wouldn’t be offering with your rules. You either trust your free childcare to make suitable choices or don’t ask them. Children are better off for having flexibility, keeping strict routines makes a rod for your back. I brought mine up to fit around me rather than strict rules, naps were often skipped etc. you seem very strict to me. My dc are in mid 20’s and one has already asked if I would be childcare so she obviously doesn’t object to how she was raised!

you are free to raise dc how you wish but not to expect free childcare to follow it. As for other family, up to you

PurpleThistle7 · 13/05/2026 14:32

hahabahbag · 13/05/2026 14:29

If you were my dil i wouldn’t be offering with your rules. You either trust your free childcare to make suitable choices or don’t ask them. Children are better off for having flexibility, keeping strict routines makes a rod for your back. I brought mine up to fit around me rather than strict rules, naps were often skipped etc. you seem very strict to me. My dc are in mid 20’s and one has already asked if I would be childcare so she obviously doesn’t object to how she was raised!

you are free to raise dc how you wish but not to expect free childcare to follow it. As for other family, up to you

I think the difference here is that OP doesn't actually need or want this childcare so hasn't asked for anything. It's actually the opposite - the grandmother needs / wants this in her life so she needs to accommodate whatever it means to make it happen.

What if she just had your older one now and again? 2 year olds are hard work and nap time could be difficult to work around for people not used to it so what if she just took out the 6 year old or had an afternoon of baking together or something similar?

I have never had any childcare whatsoever so I'm mostly amazed and jealous of those with any sort of opportunity for date nights or 'date nights' or anything really! But appreciate the grass is always greener and all that.

Xmasallergies · 13/05/2026 14:33

Cake and tv once a month won’t harm anyone, but she sounds annoying. Are you sure that you just don’t like her?

bridgetreilly · 13/05/2026 14:34

Don’t let her do bedtime. She can have an hour or two during the day, when it is convenient for you. But you are the parents and it happens on your terms.

Error404FucksNotFound · 13/05/2026 14:34

You could always ask her to have them for a long weekend so she gets to deal with it herself. See how much fun it is when she's the one dealing with the following day.

MultilingualMummy · 13/05/2026 14:34

Reading this sounds like you’re in a shared custody agreement with your MIL. She’s really manipulative and isn’t a competent caregiver. Your DH is also prioritising her feelings above the needs of your children and is treating them like prizes to be shared out rather than human beings whose needs should be paramount. Please put your foot down and end this madness. I’d say she deliberately doesn’t follow routines as it helps her feel in control. This is all about control for her ultimately and you’ve given her far too much of it.

cakeisallyouneed · 13/05/2026 14:34

I had a similar issue OP. We were told that she wouldn’t bond properly with GCs if we were present as they would want us and not her. So she needed regular time with them without us. We never really addressed it, just delayed it as long as we could then sucked up any fallout after it happened. Then repeat. It gets massively easier as the kids get older though. They’re less affected by a later night / grow out of naps etc. also MIL got far less interested in doing it as the kids got older and they were less cuddly and more independent. So over time it petered out.

Shallotsaresmallonions · 13/05/2026 14:35

hahabahbag · 13/05/2026 14:29

If you were my dil i wouldn’t be offering with your rules. You either trust your free childcare to make suitable choices or don’t ask them. Children are better off for having flexibility, keeping strict routines makes a rod for your back. I brought mine up to fit around me rather than strict rules, naps were often skipped etc. you seem very strict to me. My dc are in mid 20’s and one has already asked if I would be childcare so she obviously doesn’t object to how she was raised!

you are free to raise dc how you wish but not to expect free childcare to follow it. As for other family, up to you

Did you even read the post? They don't want free childcare.

user1492757084 · 13/05/2026 14:44

Ask MIL to come over to your place to babysit because you need their routines to be observed as much as she can manage until they are six or so.
In readiness, have some puzzles out, pram ready for a work out, coats ready for the playground/park and a ball of playdough made etc.
Have no sugary treats about but do prepare fruit snacks and scones etc.

Write clearly the children's routines, simply, and display them (give MIL a copy too)

If the older child has a sleep over, remind him what his bedtime is. Teach him to read a clock; ask him to remind Granny of his bed time. Don't allow the youngest to stay over.

Breadandsleep · 13/05/2026 14:46

May be once a month, you can let her look after your children overnight for one or two nights. Let her experience the fall out of her own way. Natural consequence.

AgnesMcDoo · 13/05/2026 14:46

I’m with grandma. Staying up late and treats is one of the joys is staying with GPs. And she’s right one day won’t hurt.

You could do with unclenching.

Kokonimater · 13/05/2026 14:46

Octavia64 · 13/05/2026 13:24

one way around this may be to try to make her feel more included.

this could be day trips out that she joins you on etc.

that way she’s not got sole care.

She said Mil wants the children on her own

Nain2026 · 13/05/2026 14:47

You really don't like this woman, do you? it couldn't be more obvious. A slice of cake once a month is hardly disastrous. Do the children enjoy spending time with grandma? They are little for such a short time, cut her some slack. Sooner or later, they won't want to spend any time with her. I think you're being a bit cold to her because of your dislike.

BowlCone · 13/05/2026 14:47

I don’t think this is just about whether you need the childcare. It’s also about your children having a relationship with their grandmother, which is valuable in itself even if she is annoying.

I would keep plugging away at explaining why you’d like her to stick to your rules (and maybe decide if any of your rules could be flexed- I don’t think a slice of cake is the end of the world). Maybe frame it in terms she’d like- that you love that she’s a regular part of their lives but the treats are the sort of thing that should be occasional. Given that she’s not just an occasional carer but an ordinary part of their world, can she try to stick to the ordinary routine?

I know it’s a PITA but having a good relationship here enhances your children’s lives in lots of ways. It’s not all about whether you actually need the help.

WiddlinDiddlin · 13/05/2026 14:47

Meh, let her have them for a bank holiday weekend and go away so she can't call you to come back easily.

She will then have to deal with the fallout.

NotThisShitAgain121 · 13/05/2026 14:53

Stop the baby sitting but include her on days out.

Ultraalox · 13/05/2026 14:55

I’d you needed her for childcare and she’s doing you a favour - YABU.
but as this is not the case I think YANBU. If it’s not helping don’t do it. Not everyone is good at looking after small kids.

Ultraalox · 13/05/2026 14:56

Days out, meeting up etc etc - fine. She doesn’t need to have them on her own to build a relationship.