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To stop asking MIL to babysit, when we don’t need it?

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wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:22

My MIL very much wants to be the involved grandma who is asked to babysit our children (6 and 2) and DH is very keen for his mum to feel included and important as a grandmother, so we ask her to babysit. The problem is that whenever we actually do ask her, she doesn’t really do what we ask. It’s never anything catastrophic, but it’s consistently frustrating. She’ll keep our eldest up far too late because she doesn’t want to properly enforce bedtime, so we then get back an overtired, emotional child. She’ll let our toddler skip naps or completely ignore routines because she thinks “one day won’t hurt,” when of course it absolutely does when we’re then left dealing with the fallout. She also has a habit of giving treats, screen time, or freedoms we’ve specifically said no to, and generally treats our parenting preferences more like optional suggestions than actual instructions.

So instead of childcare genuinely helping us, it often creates more stress afterwards. Before anyone says “well, let DH deal with the aftermath then,” yes, he often does. But that doesn’t magically solve the issue. I’m still in the same house listening to overtired children screaming, struggling, and melting down, and I’m hardly going to sit there with my feet up while my kids are miserable just to prove a point. Their difficult evening still affects the whole household, regardless of whose “turn” it is to manage it.

The key point is that we are not remotely short on childcare. My side of the family help and actually respect our routines and boundaries (DH agrees that this is the case), and if needed we also have paid childcare options who, unsurprisingly, do exactly what we ask. So this isn’t about necessity at all. It’s much more that DH feels guilty because his mum clearly wants to feel needed, involved, and chosen, and he worries that not asking her more often will hurt her feelings. On Sunday we went out because apparently MIL was sad that she hadn’t been asked to babysit in a while, whereas my mum had been a lot recently. To me it felt almost like she hadn’t had her turn to play with the toys and is in a mood about it - they’re actual living humans!

Childcare isn’t a charitable role you hand out to preserve a grown adult’s sense of importance. She absolutely loves the children, and I’m not trying to cut her out or stop her seeing them, but I am increasingly struggling with the idea that we should knowingly make our own lives harder, and our children’s evenings harder, just to protect her feelings. Seeing them with us present apparently isn’t the same thing to her. AIBU to think that “wanting to feel included” isn’t enough reason to keep using someone for babysitting when they repeatedly ignore how you want your children cared for? And how do others navigate this without it becoming huge family drama, especially when your husband seems more focused on not upsetting his mother than on whether the childcare is actually helpful?

OP posts:
Kokonimater · 13/05/2026 14:56

Edenmum2 · 13/05/2026 13:54

So do stuff WITH her?

Op has explained repeatedly !!!!! Mil doesn’t want that!!

Ultraalox · 13/05/2026 14:56

Kokonimater · 13/05/2026 14:56

Op has explained repeatedly !!!!! Mil doesn’t want that!!

I don’t think MIL gets a say? It’s not her kids. She’s had her time.

Shabang21 · 13/05/2026 14:58

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:59

@Edenmum2
she spends the whole time saying “oh when you get to come to my house… they’re coming some time next week, right?!!” (Meaning to be looked after without us) , “it’s a shame mummy and daddy haven’t left you for a while with granny, granny just wants to be your granny… you are soon, right?”

Aah, you and I have the same MIL I see! Mine did this constantly, and I was always guilted into giving in until a drive home during which my kids screamed non stop for 4 HOURS (the night before, we came home at 1am to find MIL & kids watching cartoons while eating crisps). I said no more, DH begged me to change my mind.

We had one more attempt, got home to find kids in bed, but as soon as I went up they fessed up that “Nanny said we could stay up as long as we pretended to be asleep when you got home”. So yeah, she doesn’t babysit anymore! Stick to your guns OP, leave DH be as disappointed as he likes.

DrUptonsGardenGnome · 13/05/2026 15:00

Maybe drop them at her house for a short period while you do some house admin/supermarket shopping. That limits any damage that can be done and you don't have to invent costly date nights to appease her.

thepariscrimefiles · 13/05/2026 15:03

hahabahbag · 13/05/2026 14:29

If you were my dil i wouldn’t be offering with your rules. You either trust your free childcare to make suitable choices or don’t ask them. Children are better off for having flexibility, keeping strict routines makes a rod for your back. I brought mine up to fit around me rather than strict rules, naps were often skipped etc. you seem very strict to me. My dc are in mid 20’s and one has already asked if I would be childcare so she obviously doesn’t object to how she was raised!

you are free to raise dc how you wish but not to expect free childcare to follow it. As for other family, up to you

OP isn't asking for free child care though. She doesn't want or need child care from her MIL at all. It is purely for her MIL's benefit and has no benefits at all for OP. In fact it's the opposite as time with her MIL has a detrimental affect on their behaviour.

Bristolandlazy · 13/05/2026 15:04

Tell her, get DH to tell her. She's a big gal, she can handle it. She can't be arsed to stick with your rules and it's not worth the fall out. She can feel embarrassed or upset and then decide if she's willing to enforce rules.

Buy her a box set of Super Nanny DVDs for her birthday.

eatreadsleeprepeat · 13/05/2026 15:09

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:42

@AnotherNameChange1234567 she can take them to her garden for a quick run around but says 2 is difficult to manage in an open space / out and about, but also that the little one is difficult as he doesn’t like to stay in the pram for long but also won’t walk fast at a zoo, the 6yo is high energy as 6yos are… or that it’s just “nicer” at granny’s house (I think it’s laziness tbh)

Use any times she says things like this as chances to form new patterns. Tell her, yes two are a bit challenging, why don’t you just have 6yr old for a few hours. Apart from anything else it will let the children develop their own relationships with her.

latetothefisting · 13/05/2026 15:09

"granny just wants to be your granny" 🤮🤮
I'm sorry, I always find it slightly suspicious when people insist that they NEED to be alone with children, for whatever reason. I think if it was a grandad or uncle constantly saying that people would be raising red flags. Obviously I'm not saying she's abusing them but she's clearly being manipulative and not acting in their best interests. As long as she sees them frequently there's no need (or apparent benefit to anyone) from her being in sole care of them.

Gustavo1 · 13/05/2026 15:10

Wow, I’m surprised so many seem to think you’re being unfair.
Your DH needs to grow up on this one.
If you don’t need babysitting, don’t accept it. If MIL is complaining and talking to you through the children just ignore it. You don’t have to pussy foot around a grown adult. You can tell her that her not following the routines you set out causes issues that you’d rather avoid. It doesn’t actually matter if she doesn’t like it or gets upset. You’re not being rude. It’s true. They are your children and you can choose how they are parented and looked after. Being a granny who wants to be involved isn’t an excuse to ride roughshod over your family rules and routines. It’s also showing the children that you and your rules are “boring” and that’s not fair either. There are plenty of grannies out there who have great relationships with their grandchildren without complete disregard for their routines.

Hankunamatata · 13/05/2026 15:12

Could she do school pick up once a week for eldest. Give them dinner and drop them home?

AnotherNameChange1234567 · 13/05/2026 15:15

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:57

@WaneyEdge@LiviaDrusillaAugusta
So is having lots of sugar completely ok? Not at all damaging? I’d argue a 2yo (or a 6yo for that matter) eating a large slice of cake is far from ideal

Once a month? It’s fine.

Once every two weeks is fine also.

I still remember my nanna baking an apple pie for me and a chocolate cake for my brother every Sunday for our visit. Because she knew they were our favourites.

C8H10N4O2 · 13/05/2026 15:23

AgnesMcDoo · 13/05/2026 14:46

I’m with grandma. Staying up late and treats is one of the joys is staying with GPs. And she’s right one day won’t hurt.

You could do with unclenching.

Grandma isn’t dealing with the fall out - she is leaving fretful over tired, over excited, under exercised small children to the parents who have no actual need for the babysitting in the first place. Its the grandma who is complaining if she doesn’t have sole charge at least once a week or more.

It sounds weird - she doesn’t want to spend time with the family altogether but only wants to see them in a sole charge situation as if they were dolls. Then they spend the time in front of screens because its too tiring for her to actually do anything with them.

This is a world away from more occasional time with DGPs where they play games with or do other activities with DC and sneak in the extra icecream or an extra 15 mins on bedtime. Nor is it time where DGPs join the whole family to go out or have lunch and tell the DC unsuitable stories of their parents.

This is basically unnecessary childcare where only the DGM’s wants are considered - its not even good childcare.

BiddlyBipBipBeeBop · 13/05/2026 15:30

You need to be very clear. Actions have consequences. Her actions make it difficult for you. If she can’t stick to your rules, the consequences for her are that she doesn’t get to babysit. It doesn’t matter whether anyone else thinks you should “unclench” and allow her leeway. You don’t want to and that’s your right as parents. Spell it out to her and follow through.

Passaggressfedup · 13/05/2026 15:33

So instead of childcare genuinely helping us, it often creates more stress afterwards
Oh, another parent who only thinks of them when it comes to the relationship between grand parents and the kids. Well, believe it or not, it's not about you! Your child is entitled to develop a relationship with other family members. All research shows that an extended family is a very positive part of a healthy and balanced childhood.

So what that they are lax and you occasionally have to pick up the slack. Are you kids enjoying themselves whilst they are there? Then that's part of being a parent.

Feelingstressedbutdoingmybest · 13/05/2026 15:34

Maybe I'm going to be in the minority here, but my children's grandparents are like this and the change of routine and tiredness the next day is worth it for the bond with their extended family. They adore their grandparents, they always bang on about visiting their house and what a great time they have. Do the grandparents do things exactly our way, and exactly as we would ideally wish? No. Is it, on balance, contributing to a happy childhood? Hugely.

SpaceRaccoon · 13/05/2026 15:40

Sugar crashes may not cause hyperactivity, but sugar crashes are real - they feel horrible even for adults never mind children, of course they'll be kicking off when the cake wears off.

CreativeGreen · 13/05/2026 15:42

The cake etc isn't awful in itself - when we went to my Granny's, you were allowed lots (insane amounts, tbf) of sugar on your raspberries, and to leave your vegetables etc and that was fine, though no doubt a little annoying for my parents at times, and I'm sure we came back a little harder to deal with after being indulged for a few days.

But two things make this a bit different: she's actively asking for quite a lot of time alone with them and getting annoyed if she doesn't get it, which isn't part and parcel of being a mildly indulgent granny. And you've actively asked to her to do/not do a few things, which she won't take on board, and I see why you are so frustrated.

I think probably the only option is to suck it up once a month, and just keep politely affirming the things that are more non-negotiable (toddler has nap) and relax about the things that aren't (more cake allowed than you would give)

sittingonabeach · 13/05/2026 15:48

So if she took them to a zoo, cafe etc wouldn't their nap routine be impacted, have sweet treats like cake etc

Feis123 · 13/05/2026 15:58

I am amazed at all those grannies desperate to be spending time with boring, repetitive, snotty little children. Who are you, amazing creatures? And most crucially, why????? Do you not realise your adult children will never appreciate it?
I loved going to my grandparents exactly because it was so amazing - no health and safety, grandpa smoking, grandma sniffing tobacco, easily removable decanter stopper you can lick, no bedtimes, adult food, none of that homework or discipline shit, or, perish the thought, 'routine'. But my parents had to beg grandparents to allow us to spend some week-ends with them. For that we had to wash up after meals (no dishwasher), sweep floors, weed the garden and we got slapped when we misbehaved. I can't even imagine what would have happened if my mum or my dad tried to issue 'instructions' or even 'expectations about routines' when we were dropped off. I think they would have been disinherited, but they, I imagine, never tried. They had the upbringing and the brains.

UrbanFan · 13/05/2026 16:03

Just tell her and if she won't do as you ask concerning your children then don't let her have them. When and if she complains tell her why. Eventually she mind see the light and raise your children they way you want them raised.

Keroppi · 13/05/2026 16:07

Well as long as she is normally well meaning and respectful and good with the kids then I would let some things go. Certainly doesn't seem something worth going no contact over.
Some rules and boundaries are more lax at GP house of course
But does she have them overnight? Then she'd see how hard it is to put them to bed

Is she not concerned about health and eating well? You could get the kids to bake with her and half the sugar. I only ever use 1/2 sugar or so in recipes and you really don't taste the difference. Send her some recipes or talk about UPFs and how the kids need to eat natural, rising rates of cancer in young people and how it's linked to eating rubbish..
Home made cake and tv fine.. but she should be taking them for a run around and playing outside games really rather than tv. Does she have lots of outdoor toys? Throwing hoops and bean bags in a bucket, sports day games, footballs and basketball hoop? Great if she has a large garden. Sand or water table ?
If not could she or you guys buy those stuff? Makes it nicer

Could you say tv should just be to give grandma a rest and cup of tea after playing outside?

I wouldn't stop her having them it's nice for them and her! But you could maybe let her have the 6 year old overnight in the summer holidays for a day or two? She could do more with them one on one?
But don't feel guilty if she says she's hurt.. you can only do so many date days or nights out !!

Lavender14 · 13/05/2026 16:15

I can empathise with her wanting to build memories and a relationship with her grandkids that's special between them and I get why that can be easier done outside of their parents being there. She clearly has a vision for her role as grandparent that she's very attached to and that's a great thing for your kids so I'd be trying hard not to burn a bridge there.

However I completely understand what it's like when you are getting back a cranky over tired over stimulated child, it's 'help' that's not actually remotely helpful and you're doing it more for her than anyone else. Which is why it's actually quite selfish of her to demand your kids and then demand to ignore your requests.

I'd start being very honest with her, the next time she complains that she doesn't get dc weekly or fortnightly I'd say to her straight that you can't do that because she doesn't set any boundaries, and that's fine for kids once a month but it would be unmanageable for you and dh and unhealthy for the kids if it was more regular than that. I'd say that you understand she's just trying to make the most of her time with them and give them great memories and that's important, but you're both left with really upset children after and there's a fall out that she's not then seeing that impacts you all. And you're happy to deal with that once a month if that's how she needs to do things, but it means that you can't lean on her more regularly and really that's her choice.

It's up to her what she does with that. But every time she tries to emotionally blackmail you I'd be reminding her that this is actually her choice.

Your dh needs to be on the same page and saying the same. I'd be inclined to have that conversation together when you're in the same room and tell him that that's what's going to happen next time she brings it up.

foldinthecheeeeeseeeeeeee · 13/05/2026 16:19

@wndqstn I am with you 100% because whilst its all fun and games bending the rules when DC are little, the issue we faced was into the older years where we said no and my DM would say yes so our oldest played us all off against one another.
It was a flipping nightmare to say the least and by that point he was old enough to go to his grans himself so stopping contact wasn't possible.

Worst thing we ever did was allow my DM to watch kids for us and if I could go back and change it I would. She has no respect for our boundaries

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 13/05/2026 16:22

Another post about terrible grandparents.
Cut her off
Go NC
How dare she not do exactly what you tell her to.
Tell her she obeys every one of your instructions or she will never see her grandchildren again.
How dare she want a relationship with her grandchildren. How totally unreasonable of her.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 13/05/2026 16:26

If your toddler can nap anywhere surely he pops into his routine the other 29 days.
You do you but your DH isn’t blind to how you’re treating his mother, criticising her, he is playing devils advocate trying to keep the peace between you both, remember they’re his children too. Are they boys by any chance, karma is a bitch.