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To stop asking MIL to babysit, when we don’t need it?

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wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:22

My MIL very much wants to be the involved grandma who is asked to babysit our children (6 and 2) and DH is very keen for his mum to feel included and important as a grandmother, so we ask her to babysit. The problem is that whenever we actually do ask her, she doesn’t really do what we ask. It’s never anything catastrophic, but it’s consistently frustrating. She’ll keep our eldest up far too late because she doesn’t want to properly enforce bedtime, so we then get back an overtired, emotional child. She’ll let our toddler skip naps or completely ignore routines because she thinks “one day won’t hurt,” when of course it absolutely does when we’re then left dealing with the fallout. She also has a habit of giving treats, screen time, or freedoms we’ve specifically said no to, and generally treats our parenting preferences more like optional suggestions than actual instructions.

So instead of childcare genuinely helping us, it often creates more stress afterwards. Before anyone says “well, let DH deal with the aftermath then,” yes, he often does. But that doesn’t magically solve the issue. I’m still in the same house listening to overtired children screaming, struggling, and melting down, and I’m hardly going to sit there with my feet up while my kids are miserable just to prove a point. Their difficult evening still affects the whole household, regardless of whose “turn” it is to manage it.

The key point is that we are not remotely short on childcare. My side of the family help and actually respect our routines and boundaries (DH agrees that this is the case), and if needed we also have paid childcare options who, unsurprisingly, do exactly what we ask. So this isn’t about necessity at all. It’s much more that DH feels guilty because his mum clearly wants to feel needed, involved, and chosen, and he worries that not asking her more often will hurt her feelings. On Sunday we went out because apparently MIL was sad that she hadn’t been asked to babysit in a while, whereas my mum had been a lot recently. To me it felt almost like she hadn’t had her turn to play with the toys and is in a mood about it - they’re actual living humans!

Childcare isn’t a charitable role you hand out to preserve a grown adult’s sense of importance. She absolutely loves the children, and I’m not trying to cut her out or stop her seeing them, but I am increasingly struggling with the idea that we should knowingly make our own lives harder, and our children’s evenings harder, just to protect her feelings. Seeing them with us present apparently isn’t the same thing to her. AIBU to think that “wanting to feel included” isn’t enough reason to keep using someone for babysitting when they repeatedly ignore how you want your children cared for? And how do others navigate this without it becoming huge family drama, especially when your husband seems more focused on not upsetting his mother than on whether the childcare is actually helpful?

OP posts:
Relaxd · 13/05/2026 16:27

I have very happy memories of just relaxing and having fun at my grandparents (and cake’!). The odd late night is not the end of the world but depends on the frequency perhaps. Totally agree with the overnight staying point that’s been suggested though so she deals with all aspects of fun time at granny’s!

Trinketmarch · 13/05/2026 16:28

AnotherNameChange1234567 · 13/05/2026 15:15

Once a month? It’s fine.

Once every two weeks is fine also.

I still remember my nanna baking an apple pie for me and a chocolate cake for my brother every Sunday for our visit. Because she knew they were our favourites.

The fact that you remember it suggests that you were probably quite old. Feeding large quantities of cake to a 2 year old is not ok. It's actually not caring to do that. Or to keep tiny children up late to the extent that they are miserable.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 13/05/2026 16:33

UrbanFan · 13/05/2026 16:03

Just tell her and if she won't do as you ask concerning your children then don't let her have them. When and if she complains tell her why. Eventually she mind see the light and raise your children they way you want them raised.

If my DIL said that me I would go nc with her and DS. He’s only 11, may not even become an adult, get married but I’m aware he’s on loan depending on his future wife. I’ll buy a puppy, feck the grandchildren.

Linzloopy · 13/05/2026 16:35

What problem does DC occasionally having a "huge slice of cake" cause you? Sorry but that sounds too po-faced to me. I can see it’s annoying but I don’t think it does any harm (assuming it doesn’t make him ill). If it makes him unwilling to eat his next proper meal, tell her that.

I do sympathise with the sleep problems though. But have you actually explained to her how the children behave when they haven’t had enough sleep? You could even pretend to ask her advice - "Phyllis, what did you do when DH was a little boy and behaved badly when he was overtired? DC was terrible last night! Any tips?"

Luckywithchildcare · 13/05/2026 16:37

we sometimes have this problem with grandparents, I split the kids up, so they only had charge of one, so it wasn’t so difficult for them to do things out and about and specifically asked them to take the kids somewhere for an activity. Then I try to deal with one issue at a time - junk food, I cook and leave healthy food in the freezer. Then once that’s established healthier treats rather than biscuits, so it’s more palatable than this is the way I do it, you must do it that way sort of thing. I’d probably stop the 2 year old going because I imagine they are the ones most affected.

22May2024 · 13/05/2026 16:38

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:35

@HouseOfGoldandBones she’s very open about the fact that routines aren’t followed.
“he didn’t look tired so I didn’t put him to sleep”
”we were having fun watching SpongeBob so I thought that’d be better use of time than sleep”
“I made a cake for them and if they didn’t eat it, it would just go in the bin, so I gave them a large slice each”

“Routines are important and not optional. If you don’t follow our routines then we can’t ask you to babysit.”

bigboykitty · 13/05/2026 16:50

hahabahbag · 13/05/2026 14:29

If you were my dil i wouldn’t be offering with your rules. You either trust your free childcare to make suitable choices or don’t ask them. Children are better off for having flexibility, keeping strict routines makes a rod for your back. I brought mine up to fit around me rather than strict rules, naps were often skipped etc. you seem very strict to me. My dc are in mid 20’s and one has already asked if I would be childcare so she obviously doesn’t object to how she was raised!

you are free to raise dc how you wish but not to expect free childcare to follow it. As for other family, up to you

Lol at 'free childcare' that OP neither wants nor needs.

Bumblingbee92 · 13/05/2026 16:52

Turn it back on her

‘sorry Barbara we didn’t ask you to babysit as it was over Fred’s nap time and you struggle to get him down’.

‘We’re going out for dinner but we’ll be back in a couple of hours as last time they were still fully clothed giving you the run around at 9’.

‘We’ve asked mum to look after them on Saturday as we’ll be gone all day and they need to get out the house or they’ll be climbing the walls come dinner times’.

‘you know I’m particular with what they eat so I’ve packed their lunch boxes’.

A family member kindly offered to have my two-year-old whilst I was at an appointment. I came back at 5 to find her asleep on the sofa as they had been out all afternoon and that’s the first chance she had to a nap… she was still messing around gone 11 and impossible to wake at 9am to get out the door the next day.

nearlyemptynes · 13/05/2026 16:57

She isnt 'childcare' she is their grandma. They wont thank you one day for taking away the opportunity to have a relationship with her and she wont be there forever. You need to chill out.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 13/05/2026 16:57

As long as you don’t turn round and complain that she doesn’t want to be involved in the future

bigboykitty · 13/05/2026 16:58

nearlyemptynes · 13/05/2026 16:57

She isnt 'childcare' she is their grandma. They wont thank you one day for taking away the opportunity to have a relationship with her and she wont be there forever. You need to chill out.

Is there any way you think you could make this a little more overblown and manipulative?

stardrops1 · 13/05/2026 17:00

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:43

@EmeraldShamrock000about once a month but we get nagged that it isn’t once a week or once a fortnight, as it “ideally should be”

Personally once a month is not that frequent so not really a big deal, if it’s that important to your husband.

Gloriia · 13/05/2026 17:01

Op, kindly, I'd unclench a bit.

She is your dh's dm. It's nice for him as well as mil if you let her just do her own thing a bit. As long as they're safe, loved and fed let that be enough.

How many naps do they have?!

If they've had treats just brush their teeth.

You are of course lucky to have such involved dgp, appreciate it and stop being so nit picky.

Gloriia · 13/05/2026 17:02

22May2024 · 13/05/2026 16:38

“Routines are important and not optional. If you don’t follow our routines then we can’t ask you to babysit.”

Confused

Or, look kids granny is here! Have fun!

TeaCupTinsel · 13/05/2026 17:03

I'd just be brutally honest with her 'In the past we've asked you not to do 'x' or give the kids 'x' and you've ignored us and tried to justify it anyway.

Whilst you ignore our wishes, we won't use you as much for childcare because it causes problems for the children, their emotional regulation and the whole family routine. If we could trust you'd respect our wishes then it would be different.

Then the ball is in her court. She chooses whether she wants to engage or not.

ThisDandyWriter · 13/05/2026 17:10

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:46

@CurbsideProphetshe definitely wants to see her son (not sure she wants to see me) and she’ll meet him after work for dinner if the children and I are away / have something on, or she’ll come over before babysitting to hang out with us but the sole charge thing is a must to her. So on Sunday he brought the children over, stayed with them for an hour or so whilst I got ready then we met up for “date night” aka having dinner whilst predicting how bad the fallout would be

Your children must be absolutely tied in to a very set routine that it’s so bad the next day (after a slice of cake and late night with granny) that you and your husband are talking about it in your date night, haven’t you got more fun things to talk about?!

what about holidays and days out? Are you one of those super rigid parents who start hyperventilating if they are 10 mins late to bed?

unclench a little.

MrsJeanLuc · 13/05/2026 17:10

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:37

@TomatoSandwiches
i think this is the way forward tbh as much as my DH will hate it

So, as is often pointed out on these threads (MIL threads), it's not a MIL problem you have (this could easily have been nipped in the bud) - it's a DH problem.

You need to have a real heart to heart with your DH about this (perhaps while you're having "date night"). What does he think is acceptable in terms of spoilt routines / late bedtimes / inappropriate foods? You need to agree between you what you can tolerate and what you can't (and his view might be a little more relaxed than yours I guess?).

Once you both get on the same page, managing his mum is easy. She wants to see the grandkids - so if you stick to your guns then she will follow your rules because that's the only choice she has.

Huge slice of cake: "that's OK, but I don't want them having that much sugar more than once a week, so you won't see them again until next Friday"
Missed nap: "that's OK as a one-off, but LO will need to catch up on his naps, so no more visits for 3 days"
Late bedtime for 6 yr old: "that's OK at the weekend, but can't have it on a school day, so you won't see him until Saturday"
etc, etc.

Gloriia · 13/05/2026 17:11

TeaCupTinsel · 13/05/2026 17:03

I'd just be brutally honest with her 'In the past we've asked you not to do 'x' or give the kids 'x' and you've ignored us and tried to justify it anyway.

Whilst you ignore our wishes, we won't use you as much for childcare because it causes problems for the children, their emotional regulation and the whole family routine. If we could trust you'd respect our wishes then it would be different.

Then the ball is in her court. She chooses whether she wants to engage or not.

Is that how you speak to your family, as if they're your employees?!

Grumpie · 13/05/2026 17:11

Your kids your rules. I look after my grandkids regularly and always follow whatever rules their parents set.

Gloriia · 13/05/2026 17:12

ThisDandyWriter · 13/05/2026 17:10

Your children must be absolutely tied in to a very set routine that it’s so bad the next day (after a slice of cake and late night with granny) that you and your husband are talking about it in your date night, haven’t you got more fun things to talk about?!

what about holidays and days out? Are you one of those super rigid parents who start hyperventilating if they are 10 mins late to bed?

unclench a little.

Yes it is crazy that a bit of cake and telly causes such mayhem the next day.

I wonder if you need to try a bit of flexibility op, for your kids sake or else they may carry on like this at nursery and school.

stardrops1 · 13/05/2026 17:13

MrsJeanLuc · 13/05/2026 17:10

So, as is often pointed out on these threads (MIL threads), it's not a MIL problem you have (this could easily have been nipped in the bud) - it's a DH problem.

You need to have a real heart to heart with your DH about this (perhaps while you're having "date night"). What does he think is acceptable in terms of spoilt routines / late bedtimes / inappropriate foods? You need to agree between you what you can tolerate and what you can't (and his view might be a little more relaxed than yours I guess?).

Once you both get on the same page, managing his mum is easy. She wants to see the grandkids - so if you stick to your guns then she will follow your rules because that's the only choice she has.

Huge slice of cake: "that's OK, but I don't want them having that much sugar more than once a week, so you won't see them again until next Friday"
Missed nap: "that's OK as a one-off, but LO will need to catch up on his naps, so no more visits for 3 days"
Late bedtime for 6 yr old: "that's OK at the weekend, but can't have it on a school day, so you won't see him until Saturday"
etc, etc.

OP has said the MIL only babysits once a month as it is.

TeaCupTinsel · 13/05/2026 17:20

Gloriia · 13/05/2026 17:11

Is that how you speak to your family, as if they're your employees?!

I don't think being direct with someone is talking to anyone like an 'employee'. Being clear and concise is important with anyone who pushes boundaries (which MIL is clearly doing and complaining about.)

To be fair, I've never needed to speak to any of my family like this, in any capacity, because they are very normal and lovely people who respect our wishes and wouldn't dream of overstepping! I can't get over some of the utter rubbish Mumsnetters have to put up with from their own families.

tiptoethrutulips · 13/05/2026 17:20

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:31

@BiddlyBipBipBeeBopwe have and she’ll just sort of say something along the lines of “grandma gets to make decisions in the moment - hes having fun so I delayed bedtime, he ate ‘well’ so I gave him a huge slice of cake, I made the cake specifically for him so why couldn’t he have a large bit as otherwise it wouldn’t get eaten”

"This is why I don't ask you to babysit as much as you'd like to be asked. You are making life more difficult for us and for your grandchildren, frankly, when you make your 'grandma decisions' that go against what we have very specifically asked you not to do. If you're not willing to stop doing that, I'm not willing to let you solo babysit for a while."

Think you're going to have to be blunt. Very blunt.

ThatLemonBee · 13/05/2026 17:27

Leave the kids at hers and let her deal with the aftermath? Some of us have no help and would kill for someone wanting to do that lol

Gloriia · 13/05/2026 17:28

TeaCupTinsel · 13/05/2026 17:20

I don't think being direct with someone is talking to anyone like an 'employee'. Being clear and concise is important with anyone who pushes boundaries (which MIL is clearly doing and complaining about.)

To be fair, I've never needed to speak to any of my family like this, in any capacity, because they are very normal and lovely people who respect our wishes and wouldn't dream of overstepping! I can't get over some of the utter rubbish Mumsnetters have to put up with from their own families.

This is her husband's mother. A grandmother who wants to be involved with her grandkids.

The op should try to show some love and consideration for her dh and his dm and relax her rigid rules for the once a month sessions. Then work on a bit of flexibility with her kids to avoid the dramalamas and meltdowns after treats and telly,

Loving close relatives enrich kids lives far more then timetables and rules.

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