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To stop asking MIL to babysit, when we don’t need it?

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wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:22

My MIL very much wants to be the involved grandma who is asked to babysit our children (6 and 2) and DH is very keen for his mum to feel included and important as a grandmother, so we ask her to babysit. The problem is that whenever we actually do ask her, she doesn’t really do what we ask. It’s never anything catastrophic, but it’s consistently frustrating. She’ll keep our eldest up far too late because she doesn’t want to properly enforce bedtime, so we then get back an overtired, emotional child. She’ll let our toddler skip naps or completely ignore routines because she thinks “one day won’t hurt,” when of course it absolutely does when we’re then left dealing with the fallout. She also has a habit of giving treats, screen time, or freedoms we’ve specifically said no to, and generally treats our parenting preferences more like optional suggestions than actual instructions.

So instead of childcare genuinely helping us, it often creates more stress afterwards. Before anyone says “well, let DH deal with the aftermath then,” yes, he often does. But that doesn’t magically solve the issue. I’m still in the same house listening to overtired children screaming, struggling, and melting down, and I’m hardly going to sit there with my feet up while my kids are miserable just to prove a point. Their difficult evening still affects the whole household, regardless of whose “turn” it is to manage it.

The key point is that we are not remotely short on childcare. My side of the family help and actually respect our routines and boundaries (DH agrees that this is the case), and if needed we also have paid childcare options who, unsurprisingly, do exactly what we ask. So this isn’t about necessity at all. It’s much more that DH feels guilty because his mum clearly wants to feel needed, involved, and chosen, and he worries that not asking her more often will hurt her feelings. On Sunday we went out because apparently MIL was sad that she hadn’t been asked to babysit in a while, whereas my mum had been a lot recently. To me it felt almost like she hadn’t had her turn to play with the toys and is in a mood about it - they’re actual living humans!

Childcare isn’t a charitable role you hand out to preserve a grown adult’s sense of importance. She absolutely loves the children, and I’m not trying to cut her out or stop her seeing them, but I am increasingly struggling with the idea that we should knowingly make our own lives harder, and our children’s evenings harder, just to protect her feelings. Seeing them with us present apparently isn’t the same thing to her. AIBU to think that “wanting to feel included” isn’t enough reason to keep using someone for babysitting when they repeatedly ignore how you want your children cared for? And how do others navigate this without it becoming huge family drama, especially when your husband seems more focused on not upsetting his mother than on whether the childcare is actually helpful?

OP posts:
CreativeGreen · 13/05/2026 17:28

I think what stings in these situations, if we're really honest, isn't that whatever the grandmother does is doing damage to the child or is inherently awful: it's that she's dismissing our way of parenting and our priorities in a way which can feel as though they're being criticised or even that it's a kind of attempt to say 'look, see, my way works and yours is silly'.

But that's not to be dismissed, because it is infuriating: mostly we don't come up with those priorities and methods just for fun or to be a dick, after all. So it's valid to feel annoyed and insulted when they're dismissed and over-ruled.

HyggeTygge · 13/05/2026 17:36

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:59

@Edenmum2
she spends the whole time saying “oh when you get to come to my house… they’re coming some time next week, right?!!” (Meaning to be looked after without us) , “it’s a shame mummy and daddy haven’t left you for a while with granny, granny just wants to be your granny… you are soon, right?”

God this would drive me nuts.
Why can't she enjoy seeing them with you around?

It's weird that she insists you all fit in with her routine instead of the children's coming first.

I remember trying to drive home from relatives' when they'd not thought it important to work around toddler's nap time. I had to drive for 90 minutes home on the motorway with full-on crying the entire time and I thought I was going to lose my mind. Funnily enough I know my kid well enough to know he won't just 'nod off in the car'!

TeaCupTinsel · 13/05/2026 17:37

Gloriia · 13/05/2026 17:28

This is her husband's mother. A grandmother who wants to be involved with her grandkids.

The op should try to show some love and consideration for her dh and his dm and relax her rigid rules for the once a month sessions. Then work on a bit of flexibility with her kids to avoid the dramalamas and meltdowns after treats and telly,

Loving close relatives enrich kids lives far more then timetables and rules.

And she can be very involved with her grandkids, spend lots of happy time with them and still respect their parental boundaries.

It's not one or the other, she's an adult who can choose to have a lovely time with her grandkids and also not do the things she's been asked not to. She is choosing to ignore their wishes. She is causing the issue. You can love someone and still not be happy about their behaviour.

'Dramallamas and meltdowns' haha, oh gosh, I'm guessing you're one of these boundary pushing MILs/ Grandparents!

Praising the powers that be for the family we were gifted. 🙌
Godspeed to all Mumsnetters deep in the trenches of dealing with overstepping Grandparents/ In laws! 🫡

Frankie5678 · 13/05/2026 17:41

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:33

@AnotherNameChange1234567 then naps are skipped and they’ve watched way too much TV, they’ll be high on sugar. It just feels like I could have (and would have wanted to!) done something productive in that time, let them run around outdoors, taken them to a zoo, done a craft etc but instead they’ve been plopped in front of the TV, fed sweets and skipped naps.

Experienced similar around boundaries - screen time, access to internet etc. Was painted as overbearing but eventually had to make the contact with us there.

Gloriia · 13/05/2026 17:44

'Dramallamas and meltdowns' haha, oh gosh, I'm guessing you're one of these boundary pushing MILs/ Grandparents!'

I'm neither however when our dc stayed with grandparents I left them to it. Their time, their routines. Kids should be adaptable and rigid rules are just crazy and stressful. As the op has found out.

HyggeTygge · 13/05/2026 17:49

Gloriia · 13/05/2026 17:44

'Dramallamas and meltdowns' haha, oh gosh, I'm guessing you're one of these boundary pushing MILs/ Grandparents!'

I'm neither however when our dc stayed with grandparents I left them to it. Their time, their routines. Kids should be adaptable and rigid rules are just crazy and stressful. As the op has found out.

"Rigid rules" like someone only considering it acceptable to spend time with their GC at their house, in front of the tv, without their parents?

It's the grandmother that seems inflexible here tbh.

Woodfiresareamazing2 · 13/05/2026 17:50

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:31

@BiddlyBipBipBeeBopwe have and she’ll just sort of say something along the lines of “grandma gets to make decisions in the moment - hes having fun so I delayed bedtime, he ate ‘well’ so I gave him a huge slice of cake, I made the cake specifically for him so why couldn’t he have a large bit as otherwise it wouldn’t get eaten”

But that's just it - Grandma SHOULDN'T be making decisions "in the moment" about things you have asked her to do or not do. That's what is causing the problems.

She's being very selfish. She wants them to herself so that she CAN give them cake/sweets/crap, skip naps etc.
But they are NOT her children, she doesn't get to be in charge and make decisions about diet, naps, bedtime etc.

I would stop having her babysit them at least until both children have given up naps.

Or if DH can't do that at this point, maybe leave them for an hour or two in the morning, with very specific instructions not feed them cake or sweets as it will spoil their lunch.
If she still does, then that's it - no more solo time with them for another few months

ElephantPidgeon · 13/05/2026 17:59

Have the same nonsense from my MIL. Children are not toys, this is not a popularity contest. You look after them on our terms, or not at all.

MrsJeanLuc · 13/05/2026 18:00

stardrops1 · 13/05/2026 17:13

OP has said the MIL only babysits once a month as it is.

Oh ffs. I read the "ideally once a week or once a fortnight" bit 😊

If it's only once a month then I think OP needs to unclench! 😀

familycompass · 13/05/2026 18:07

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JayJayj · 13/05/2026 18:09

I’d put a stop to it. Maybe she can have them for a couple of hours but that’s it.
I would be completely honest why. Say, her having them overnight causes more stress than a night off should. If she sticks to the kids routine and screen time etc, then yes they can stop. But until she is willing to do that they won’t be staying.

WaneyEdge · 13/05/2026 18:17

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:57

@WaneyEdge@LiviaDrusillaAugusta
So is having lots of sugar completely ok? Not at all damaging? I’d argue a 2yo (or a 6yo for that matter) eating a large slice of cake is far from ideal

Once a month I’d say it’s no big deal. Personally I’d say sugar isn’t the demon it’s made out to be and artificial and ‘natural’ sweeteners are worse. However, I was responding to a question about the ‘sugar high’ which has been debunked for quite a while now.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 13/05/2026 18:26

TeaCupTinsel · 13/05/2026 17:20

I don't think being direct with someone is talking to anyone like an 'employee'. Being clear and concise is important with anyone who pushes boundaries (which MIL is clearly doing and complaining about.)

To be fair, I've never needed to speak to any of my family like this, in any capacity, because they are very normal and lovely people who respect our wishes and wouldn't dream of overstepping! I can't get over some of the utter rubbish Mumsnetters have to put up with from their own families.

That’s a bit more than being direct, it’s cutting and rude.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 13/05/2026 18:45

TeaCupTinsel · 13/05/2026 17:03

I'd just be brutally honest with her 'In the past we've asked you not to do 'x' or give the kids 'x' and you've ignored us and tried to justify it anyway.

Whilst you ignore our wishes, we won't use you as much for childcare because it causes problems for the children, their emotional regulation and the whole family routine. If we could trust you'd respect our wishes then it would be different.

Then the ball is in her court. She chooses whether she wants to engage or not.

Again though, if MIL backs off (which is what OP wants) then OP has to accept that she can’t expect help if needed.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 13/05/2026 18:49

When I was a child my two grandmothers were total opposites. One was even stricter than my parents and the other sounds like your MIL.

Yes she let us stay up late and fed us unsuitable food but everyone in the family throughout the generations remembers her so fondly 40 years after she had died.

Jk987 · 13/05/2026 18:55

It’s really hard to get kids to bed on time and for them to stay there and drift off to sleep. It’s one thing asking, another thing doing.

asdbaybeeee · 13/05/2026 19:21

I’d ask her about once a month on a Saturday to have them for a few hours in the afternoon whilst you do xyz. Try to time it around nap time so impact is less.

she sounds hard work though.

rwalker · 13/05/2026 19:30

Depends how often probably get flamed for this but just sounds like normal over enthusiastic GP
MIL and FIL caused to be like this. It they all had a blast so just let it ride

FasterMichelin · 13/05/2026 19:52

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:57

@WaneyEdge@LiviaDrusillaAugusta
So is having lots of sugar completely ok? Not at all damaging? I’d argue a 2yo (or a 6yo for that matter) eating a large slice of cake is far from ideal

But it’s not going to cause any harm unless it’s a daily thing. You’re making this out to be a much bigger deal than it is. Why? Do you feel threatened? Undermined? What’s making you feel the odd visit with grandma, a slice of cake and a late night with tv is damaging? It really isn’t so there must be something else going on here.

ChocolateAddictAlways · 13/05/2026 20:10

I understand the frustration. You'll have to kindly but very firmly make it clear that if the routines can't be followed (if they're too much for her) then you'll need to find another sitter who can stick to them and it's best to do family time with her. Make sure DH is ready to back you up that it causes chaos for you after her visits. She will probably reluctantly acquiesce so as not to lose the sole carer time...but if she doesn't then and makes a fuss then the decision has already been made.

TeaCupTinsel · 13/05/2026 20:35

EmeraldShamrock000 · 13/05/2026 18:26

That’s a bit more than being direct, it’s cutting and rude.

It's absolutely not 'cutting' or 'rude' to be clear and concise with someone who (repeatedly) breaks boundaries.

Furthermore, it was a suggestion and could be adapted to the OP's situation or preference, that was the whole point.

Nobody is asking you (or anyone else) to deliver it in a 'rude and cutting' way to your MIL.

Tone and delivery is a large part of any discussion which can't be conveyed in text. However, clearly this particular MIL hasn't listened to a word the OP and her husband have requested of her, so clear and precise phrasing is definitely the way to go. (How they would deliver that is up to them!)

ChocolateAddictAlways · 13/05/2026 20:37

I understand the frustration. You'll have to kindly but very firmly make it clear that if the routines can't be followed (if they're too much for her) then you'll need to find another sitter who can stick to them and it's best to do family time with her. Make sure DH is ready to back you up that it causes chaos for you after her visits. She will probably reluctantly acquiesce so as not to lose the sole carer time...but if she doesn't then and makes a fuss then the decision has already been made.

Gloriia · 13/05/2026 20:38

'It's absolutely not 'cutting' or 'rude' to be clear and concise with someone who (repeatedly) breaks boundaries'

She is a loving grandparent who is a bit soft with her dgc, as most are. Do unclench or are you the sort to be NC with everyone?

boringperson123 · 13/05/2026 20:38

I really struggle to believe the fall out from a few big slices of cake/skipped naps/late bed times on ONE day a month is that bad tbh unless your children are not neurotypical?

TeaCupTinsel · 13/05/2026 20:40

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 13/05/2026 18:45

Again though, if MIL backs off (which is what OP wants) then OP has to accept that she can’t expect help if needed.

I agree with you, I don't think they could then ask for help in the future, but the OP has stated that they don't need help and they have plenty of childcare options.

We never used any grandparent as childcare (we lived too far away for one thing) so used nursery/ local friends swaps (e.g. I had their kids one evening so then they had ours another). In that way, grandparents got to be just grandparents and we weren't having to deal with these sort of issues. However, I appreciate that others have different circumstances beyond their control.