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To stop asking MIL to babysit, when we don’t need it?

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wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:22

My MIL very much wants to be the involved grandma who is asked to babysit our children (6 and 2) and DH is very keen for his mum to feel included and important as a grandmother, so we ask her to babysit. The problem is that whenever we actually do ask her, she doesn’t really do what we ask. It’s never anything catastrophic, but it’s consistently frustrating. She’ll keep our eldest up far too late because she doesn’t want to properly enforce bedtime, so we then get back an overtired, emotional child. She’ll let our toddler skip naps or completely ignore routines because she thinks “one day won’t hurt,” when of course it absolutely does when we’re then left dealing with the fallout. She also has a habit of giving treats, screen time, or freedoms we’ve specifically said no to, and generally treats our parenting preferences more like optional suggestions than actual instructions.

So instead of childcare genuinely helping us, it often creates more stress afterwards. Before anyone says “well, let DH deal with the aftermath then,” yes, he often does. But that doesn’t magically solve the issue. I’m still in the same house listening to overtired children screaming, struggling, and melting down, and I’m hardly going to sit there with my feet up while my kids are miserable just to prove a point. Their difficult evening still affects the whole household, regardless of whose “turn” it is to manage it.

The key point is that we are not remotely short on childcare. My side of the family help and actually respect our routines and boundaries (DH agrees that this is the case), and if needed we also have paid childcare options who, unsurprisingly, do exactly what we ask. So this isn’t about necessity at all. It’s much more that DH feels guilty because his mum clearly wants to feel needed, involved, and chosen, and he worries that not asking her more often will hurt her feelings. On Sunday we went out because apparently MIL was sad that she hadn’t been asked to babysit in a while, whereas my mum had been a lot recently. To me it felt almost like she hadn’t had her turn to play with the toys and is in a mood about it - they’re actual living humans!

Childcare isn’t a charitable role you hand out to preserve a grown adult’s sense of importance. She absolutely loves the children, and I’m not trying to cut her out or stop her seeing them, but I am increasingly struggling with the idea that we should knowingly make our own lives harder, and our children’s evenings harder, just to protect her feelings. Seeing them with us present apparently isn’t the same thing to her. AIBU to think that “wanting to feel included” isn’t enough reason to keep using someone for babysitting when they repeatedly ignore how you want your children cared for? And how do others navigate this without it becoming huge family drama, especially when your husband seems more focused on not upsetting his mother than on whether the childcare is actually helpful?

OP posts:
Maray1967 · 13/05/2026 20:43

wndqstn · 13/05/2026 13:31

@BiddlyBipBipBeeBopwe have and she’ll just sort of say something along the lines of “grandma gets to make decisions in the moment - hes having fun so I delayed bedtime, he ate ‘well’ so I gave him a huge slice of cake, I made the cake specifically for him so why couldn’t he have a large bit as otherwise it wouldn’t get eaten”

I would respond, I’m his mother, I’m not happy with that, and that’s why I’m not leaving them with you.

But I would already have asked DH to clarify whether his mum’s wishes are more important to him than his DC’s wellbeing.

spicysalad · 13/05/2026 20:45

I think you should relax a bit - an occasional day of not enough sleep and too much sugar isn’t a big deal, don’t prioritise ‘routine’ over their relationship with their grandma.

Thelnebriati · 13/05/2026 20:53

If the child is coming home out of sorts its not a good relationship. Grandma wants to be their friend and buys them with treats, when they need her to be an adult.

TeaCupTinsel · 13/05/2026 20:55

Gloriia · 13/05/2026 20:38

'It's absolutely not 'cutting' or 'rude' to be clear and concise with someone who (repeatedly) breaks boundaries'

She is a loving grandparent who is a bit soft with her dgc, as most are. Do unclench or are you the sort to be NC with everyone?

'Unclench' how strange...I've seen that a few times on this thread. It seems to be the buzzword to use against someone when you don't agree with them.

I don't need to 'unclench' as we have a very relaxed life...we don't have any of these overstepping relatives driving us up the wall with their antics. Thankfully, ours are completely sane, considerate and respect how we've chosen to parent.

It blows my mind that anyone would deliberately cross another parent's boundaries with their children. I'd never contemplate doing it with my nieces/nephews and neither would my siblings/ parents with our children.

Hope everything works out with no stress for you OP! (I'm sure you'll be told to 'unclench' a few more times before it's done though!)

Gloriia · 13/05/2026 21:11

boringperson123 · 13/05/2026 20:38

I really struggle to believe the fall out from a few big slices of cake/skipped naps/late bed times on ONE day a month is that bad tbh unless your children are not neurotypical?

Yes it makes you wonder what kind of strict military regime is in place at home for the kids to unravel so much after being with Granny.

jinglejanglescarecat · 13/05/2026 21:17

This would drive me mad and feels super pressuring. She’s quite manipulative in the way she speaks to the kids!

this is why we don’t ask family to babysit much!!

I hate the whole “grandmas get to treat the kids”. It’s not a treat when it messes stuff up, goes against what you’ve asked, or is too often!

hard one OP as you know she’ll cry and have a strop. But I think be honest and say it’s because of XYZ.

ita a bit weird that she thinks being a Granny is having them on her own. Sounds like she can’t even take them out so they’re cooped up high on sugar and up late!!

EmeraldShamrock000 · 13/05/2026 21:21

Maray1967 · 13/05/2026 20:43

I would respond, I’m his mother, I’m not happy with that, and that’s why I’m not leaving them with you.

But I would already have asked DH to clarify whether his mum’s wishes are more important to him than his DC’s wellbeing.

His DC wellbeing? That’s a stretch, way to manipulate DH into choosing to hurt his mother.
A piece of cake, a late night once a month with a DGM is very healthy for a child’s wellbeing.
I hope these children are boys, OP can experience her future DIL’s parenting handbook.

jinglejanglescarecat · 13/05/2026 21:22

spicysalad · 13/05/2026 20:45

I think you should relax a bit - an occasional day of not enough sleep and too much sugar isn’t a big deal, don’t prioritise ‘routine’ over their relationship with their grandma.

but It’s annoying to have a night out and come back to tired kids and grumpy next day. It ruins the whole weekend!!

and also - it’s just down right rude to ignore what someone’s asked of you!!

being a loving grandma means looking after the kids and respecting the parents. Not out rightly ignoring them and making them exhausted! That’s not good care.

jinglejanglescarecat · 13/05/2026 21:24

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 13/05/2026 18:45

Again though, if MIL backs off (which is what OP wants) then OP has to accept that she can’t expect help if needed.

Ooh this is the reverse of the grandparent threads!!

so many grandparents saying they don’t want to help with childcare. They then get told - well you can’t expect help when you’re old then can you? grandma then says - here we go with the threats! 😂

MyLittleNest · 13/05/2026 21:27

Your MIL is deliberately undermining your parenting. This is not okay.

She is not entitled to all this one on one time, especially if she abuses it. These are not her children.

Your husband sounds more concerned with pleasing his mother than doing what is best for his children, because having her disrupt their naps, feed them all the treats she wants, and spoil them as she sees fit is not okay. Also, having lived through this before, it tends to only get worse with time, in an effort to buy the children's affection.

I would stop handing over your children to her if you don't actually need the childcare. She can stop by and visit while you are home and have a family visit, or your DH can take the kids to her. She will still see the grandchildren, so really, she has nothing to complain about. She has asked for too much and then abused the opportunity.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 13/05/2026 21:38

MyLittleNest · 13/05/2026 21:27

Your MIL is deliberately undermining your parenting. This is not okay.

She is not entitled to all this one on one time, especially if she abuses it. These are not her children.

Your husband sounds more concerned with pleasing his mother than doing what is best for his children, because having her disrupt their naps, feed them all the treats she wants, and spoil them as she sees fit is not okay. Also, having lived through this before, it tends to only get worse with time, in an effort to buy the children's affection.

I would stop handing over your children to her if you don't actually need the childcare. She can stop by and visit while you are home and have a family visit, or your DH can take the kids to her. She will still see the grandchildren, so really, she has nothing to complain about. She has asked for too much and then abused the opportunity.

Perhaps she wants to be treated the same as the OP’s mother.

jinglejanglescarecat · 13/05/2026 21:39

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 13/05/2026 21:38

Perhaps she wants to be treated the same as the OP’s mother.

Well then she needs to act more like her then!!

5128gap · 13/05/2026 21:49

Tbh, I wouldn't think much of your H if he didn't advocate for his mother to have the children. It actually makes a refreshing change to hear of a man trying to include his mum and encourage her role as equal grandma, rather than taking the path of least resistance and allowing her to be second fiddle.
You need to encourage him to tell his mum how difficult it is for him if she let's the DC do whatever, and that if it continues he'll have to put babysitting on hold until they're older, because the hassle next day is too much to cope with.

SconehengeRevenge · 13/05/2026 21:51

I've not read te full thread, just @wndqstn posts, so apologies is already suggested, but I'd say you have 3 choices...

DH makes it clear that your rules are your rules. She follows them, or...

Stop the "date nights"

Sleepovers at granny's house?

AnotherNameChange1234567 · 13/05/2026 21:55

Trinketmarch · 13/05/2026 16:28

The fact that you remember it suggests that you were probably quite old. Feeding large quantities of cake to a 2 year old is not ok. It's actually not caring to do that. Or to keep tiny children up late to the extent that they are miserable.

She died when I was 9 and had been ill before that, so no, I was not old. I would say I noticed it from around 6 years old.

Papersquidge · 13/05/2026 21:59

At the end of the day, they are your children. If you genuinely have a need for childcare then it’s great she can help out. Otherwise, she isn’t entitled to look after them regularly. Visit while you guys are there, yes, but that’s as far as it needs to go.

You have nothing to justify. It’s a perfectly reasonable boundary.

Oooohthatsfancy · 13/05/2026 22:04

Its threads like this that install fear in me that my lovely sons will be married one day, I hope they marry someone that will respect the relationship between mother and son.
I know that relationship would change but it’s so horrible to read some replies.
Why is it always the in laws that are in the wrong. Never the daughter’s parents.
I think the GM sounds lovely and loves having your children and spoiling them a little.
My children still joke about their picnics in bed and ice cream for breakfast when being with their nan.
Give her and your husband a break.

Burntt · 13/05/2026 22:11

I completely get where you are coming from and it is a complete pain in the arse no denying that. BUT your kids won’t need naps forever and if you burn this bridge now then when kids are older and naps and a slice of cake are not deal breakers you will wish she was happy to babysit more often.

id have her babysit the minimum that keeps her happy and prepare for a bit of a challenge with overtired children when you get home. DH deals with that. Yes it’s hard to listen to but don’t make yourself a martyr needlessly. And in a few years you will have babysitting on hand when you actually will appreciate it.

I don’t have family support and omg I wish I did. I also don’t know if there were any issues between my mother and my paternal grandmother but she did babysit when I was tiny then it stopped and she just wasn’t involved in my life and I just don’t know that side of my family at all. After my dad died I never see them and there are loads of them. I still see my maternal family because they were around. I would not be surprised to learn my paternal grandmother disregarded instructions my mother gave and got pushed out then wouldn’t babysit when we were older. I remember my mother moaning no one helped her when I was an older child but all those who babysat when I was tiny stopped for whatever reason I was not privy too. My mother was very controlling and I can see it likely was because things were not done her way babysitters were cut off. And yes when it’s got fall out behaviour that’s a pain for the parents but kids are not young and needing that nap and screen time rules forever and if you burn that bridge now will you regret it? My mother, who was never a good mother to me, now feels fully able to disregard my instructions if she babysits- winding my SEN son up to such extremes she now won’t sit for him because she cannot cope. So you need to look at your situation and work out why she is this way- is it that she just loves the kids and wants to have quality time with them not paying attention to what you say about the fall out and with your childrens aging this will become a non issue or is she not someone you ever want around your children because it’s more about her way or no way and it will be no loss to loose that from your children’s life?

EndlessTreadmill · 13/05/2026 22:20

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 13/05/2026 13:41

Isn’t the whole ‘sugar high’ something that has been debunked?

Agree. I think she sounds annoying and silly, but you sound controlling and very rigid. Unless it’s every day, it’s not the end of the world if kids have a large slice of cake or skip a nap (are they even still having naps at 6??). Even going to bed late, I am VERY surprised that there is such an impact the next day.

Bumblingbee92 · 13/05/2026 22:51

Oooohthatsfancy · 13/05/2026 22:04

Its threads like this that install fear in me that my lovely sons will be married one day, I hope they marry someone that will respect the relationship between mother and son.
I know that relationship would change but it’s so horrible to read some replies.
Why is it always the in laws that are in the wrong. Never the daughter’s parents.
I think the GM sounds lovely and loves having your children and spoiling them a little.
My children still joke about their picnics in bed and ice cream for breakfast when being with their nan.
Give her and your husband a break.

Depends wether you’ll respect your future DIL as the mother of your Grandchildren.

There’s a difference between treating your grandkids and flat out going against their parents wishes.

Just an FYI to grandparents who want to spoil their grandkids; buy berries. They cost a fortune, all kids love them and no parent will complain.

Also my toddler loves steak and lamb chops. Funny enough no family member has took her out for her to nibble on a mix grill. That’s the kind of core memories/treats/being the ‘fun’ family member I can get onboard with. Not sneaking them chocolate (when they are allowed treats, just not after eating a donut..) and being told ‘don’t tell mummy’ like I’m the bad guy/in the wrong.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 13/05/2026 23:10

Bumblingbee92 · 13/05/2026 22:51

Depends wether you’ll respect your future DIL as the mother of your Grandchildren.

There’s a difference between treating your grandkids and flat out going against their parents wishes.

Just an FYI to grandparents who want to spoil their grandkids; buy berries. They cost a fortune, all kids love them and no parent will complain.

Also my toddler loves steak and lamb chops. Funny enough no family member has took her out for her to nibble on a mix grill. That’s the kind of core memories/treats/being the ‘fun’ family member I can get onboard with. Not sneaking them chocolate (when they are allowed treats, just not after eating a donut..) and being told ‘don’t tell mummy’ like I’m the bad guy/in the wrong.

Big difference between giving the kid some sweets and having to wrangle them in a cafe or restaurant though

Plus how many people remember anything from when they were toddler age? ‘Memories’ are for the parents/grandparents etc.

Maray1967 · 13/05/2026 23:31

EmeraldShamrock000 · 13/05/2026 21:21

His DC wellbeing? That’s a stretch, way to manipulate DH into choosing to hurt his mother.
A piece of cake, a late night once a month with a DGM is very healthy for a child’s wellbeing.
I hope these children are boys, OP can experience her future DIL’s parenting handbook.

Clearly not, when they’re in a state afterwards. How is that healthy? My gran didn’t behave like that. We had fun times but we had normal meals and bedtimes when we were at hers. Why is that something that DGPs are excused from?

Maray1967 · 13/05/2026 23:34

EndlessTreadmill · 13/05/2026 22:20

Agree. I think she sounds annoying and silly, but you sound controlling and very rigid. Unless it’s every day, it’s not the end of the world if kids have a large slice of cake or skip a nap (are they even still having naps at 6??). Even going to bed late, I am VERY surprised that there is such an impact the next day.

Surely it doesn’t take much imagination to understand that this type of ‘care’ can leave some DC in a state? My two would have been ok after an occasional late night, my niece as well, but not my nephew - he did not cope well at all and SIL had to be very strict on bedtimes or they all paid the price the next day.

CurlewKate · 14/05/2026 06:56

I really don’t understand the “the baby’s not a toy” category of comments. Of course he’s not. But I got a huge amount of fun from playing with my babies, dressing them up, taking cute pictures-basically treating them, in Mumsnet terms, like particularly wonderful dollies. And I saw no reason why other people who loved them shouldn't have some of that fun too. I actually didn’t need much babysitting because I was a SAHM with a capable partner and didn’t go many places I couldn’t take a baby to. But if our friends and family-particularly our parents- wanted a turn with this lovely new “toy” of course they could. They tended to come home from my parents covered in paint and from my in laws wearing 97 layers of hideous lacy frills and a bonnet-but everyone had had fun and the babies learned that they were part of a larger family who loved them and different people do things differently. Win:win.

HoldMyWine · 14/05/2026 07:43

Another MIL who can’t do right for doing wrong and will always be second best to your mother. I can’t wait until my son’s have children.

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