AIBU to find drag on mainstream TV disrespectful to women?

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AIBU to think that drag is derogative woman face and unacceptable.

Women are oppressed by men, for example;

• 1 in 4 women will be raped by a man in their lifetime.
• Men generally hold most of the power and wealth, 90% of the ultra-wealthy in the world are men.
• Men are less likely to experience sexual harassment and often have more freedom of movement without fear of violence.
• Men are generally free from unpaid caring roles
• Women are more likely to be objectified by men and valued for their body and youth whereas men are not and this creates a power imbalance.

With this in mind AIBU to think drag on main stream TV such as this 'artist' is totally unacceptable.

He has made fun and a jokes about lactation in grotesque fashion, squeezing cream out of his huge fake tits into a cup and has made fun of pregnancy and wears comedy size 'tits' and 'arse'.

The portrayal of any group's body or bodily functions in a grotesque manner for humour should surely be considered unacceptable, particularly when it mirrors historical patterns of oppression. Shouldn't it?

The link is twitter
Drag Race

For those that don't have twitter I have added some screen shots.

@Dollymylove “just switch it off”

its not about us seeing it - it’s about society seeing it and we can’t switch it off for them by just switching it off ourselves

Yes. It is no different to white men in blackface.

Maybe it’s the internalised mysogeny

I believe drag also got a spring board across the “working man’s” clubs of Britain - loads of men love it

The particular drag act you mention is grotesque and derogatory towards women, but I don’t think all drag acts are. Sometimes drag queens are just gay men having fun with a type of glamour that they aren’t “allowed” to have in their day-to-day lives, and other times, drag acts are tribute acts to female celebrities. My SIL saw one with a guy who dressed up like Avril Lavigne circa 2002 and lip-synced a couple of her songs on stage. It wasn’t mocking or derogatory, just him having fun pretending to be someone else.

I wonder if there’s often difference between comedy drag acts and musical drag acts. A lot of the comedy ones do seem to center around stereotypes of women.

Yes - aligning with oppressor class

No worries! I know these threads move fast and there are a shitload of posts. AND I fucking ramble on!!! 😬
edit: typo

If it’s about him just having fun pretending to be someone else why would it need to be done publically?

The black and white minstrel show didn't make people racist.
People were already racist that's why the show was aired.
It appealed to many of the white population at the time because they were racist.
As racism started to be called out it was dropped from air and nowadays people can see what the vast majority of white people couldn't see at the time. It was offensive.

If you can't see that the pictures of the drag artist I pasted in the OP are offensive then perhaps your children's children will in the future.

That’s like asking, “Why do actors need audiences? Why don’t they just put on plays in their homes with no one watching?”

If it's about glamour, then why not dress like a more flamboyant David Bowie? Or an even wilder Harry Styles?

Why the need for fake breasts, the emulation of exaggerated female characteristics, or the need to take on female pronouns and a feminine name?

It's clearly about becoming a caricature of a woman.

Because they are trying to communicate something with a story for the audience

We had a Drag Artiste come to the library for a storytelling session. Talk about conditioning children to accept this as normal from an early age
No one went by the way

Well it’s making money out of making fun of women, such an easy target.

It’s crass and makes me wonder how many men see women as these outrageous collection of body parts, as figures of fun, are jealous of our biological bodies and biological abilities.

It’s hard to imagine equality having ever been a thing when this stuff is promoted on mainstream tv.

I don’t think the issue here is so much that it is drag, but rather he’s mocking womanhood. A lot of drag is an appreciation of femininity and a valid art form, but this is not very tasteful

And the gross names of women's body parts

Cheryl Hole
Penny Tration
Kitty Beaverhausen
Madame Ovary

etc...

Kenny Everett did!!!

Again, I think it depends on the act. Billing yourself as, say, Crystal Chandelier and singing on stage wearing an evening gown is a different thing from billing yourself as Harriet Minge and making jokes about sagging breasts and hot flashes.

I think there's good drag and bad drag. Some I find funny, some not so much. I can't get too worked up over it.

Is it bollocks. There's nothing feminine about drag, it bastardises the feminine in a grotesque display of the female form. It is to the appreciation of femininity as the human caterpillar is to the appreciation of surgery.

It's a good question. Most women seem to find it offensive and I don't know any men who would be remotely interested in watching anything drag related. So who is there audience?

But they must be getting the viewing figures I guess so someone must be watching.

Why?

Is billing yourself as an 'articulate' and 'educated' black man, crooning on stage in a suit in full blackface, really that 'different' to billing yourself as a black gangster from Detroit who does derogatory rapping about black people?

Should we be allowing blackface if it's 'classy'?

There's a drag artist in my town who's getting increasingly popular, to the extent that he's hosting a stage at the local free festival. I just don't get it.

That is precisely why it was taken off air because it was racist

Full points for trying really hard to remain oblivious to your own hypocrisy.