AIBU to find drag on mainstream TV disrespectful to women?

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AIBU to think that drag is derogative woman face and unacceptable.

Women are oppressed by men, for example;

• 1 in 4 women will be raped by a man in their lifetime.
• Men generally hold most of the power and wealth, 90% of the ultra-wealthy in the world are men.
• Men are less likely to experience sexual harassment and often have more freedom of movement without fear of violence.
• Men are generally free from unpaid caring roles
• Women are more likely to be objectified by men and valued for their body and youth whereas men are not and this creates a power imbalance.

With this in mind AIBU to think drag on main stream TV such as this 'artist' is totally unacceptable.

He has made fun and a jokes about lactation in grotesque fashion, squeezing cream out of his huge fake tits into a cup and has made fun of pregnancy and wears comedy size 'tits' and 'arse'.

The portrayal of any group's body or bodily functions in a grotesque manner for humour should surely be considered unacceptable, particularly when it mirrors historical patterns of oppression. Shouldn't it?

The link is twitter
Drag Race

For those that don't have twitter I have added some screen shots.

Also allowing gay men to get away with saying things about women straight men couldn't get away with - it’s like it slips in another way

It’s no different to blackface IMO. But if you don’t laugh along you’re seen as uptight. YANBU.

Then you don't understand what the term sex class means then, or basic comprehension because no one on this thread has blamed an individual for anything.

Do you really not see a connection between those societal power dynamics and the use of "humour" to degrade and shame women?

People from the oppressor class dressing up as caricatures of the class that is currently being discriminated against and has historically been oppressed, and aping their stereotyped behaviour - whether through a negative or positive lens - is distasteful and inappropriate.

It's as simple as that, really.

Apologies. Fair enough.

No worries, it's an emotive topic x

I also got easily confused as the OP seemed to drastically misunderstand me, so I thought you had as well. OP, I can’t answer a question about an opinion that isn’t even mine. You’d have to directly ask the people who have that opinion. 👍

I also think that it's women who enjoy things like drag race not heterosexual men.
So what's OP got to say about that? Cause I don't know a single man who watches it. Not even gay men.

I'm very gender critical for what it's worth.

As long as when the clothes and make-up come off the performer and he's NOT claiming to be a woman, I'm OK with drag.

women do drag too - as kings and queens

Again an irrelevant question. It was taken off air years ago because of the racist connotations. I was only a kid when it was broadcast and I had no interest in it at all

Women also fought against the suffragettes.
Women also blame rape victims for wearing the wrong clothes or taking the wrong route home.
Women also have internalised misogyny.

That's not new news.

men are not an oppressed class

So, racism is bad but misogyny is entertainment?

Totally agree. All of it - misogynistic crap. I hate anything to do with drag or men pretending to be women for laughs or being 'serious'. It's wrong. Its yet more evidence of the patriarchal society in which we live. Makes me feel a bit sick. I loved Paul O'Grady, he never had a misogynistic bone in his body - he was a very good man. But times have changed and he stopped it with the drag in the end. Les Dawson probably the same. They are not comparable to the likes of the OP.

sorry Dilettanteredragger, my fault for misunderstanding.
reading too quickly,

I didn’t have a problem with Drag, until a recent holiday when the drag queen was wearing g string of jewels with his penis tucked in, nipple tassels with half of a skirt. Extremely sexualised unlike the Christmas panto actors.

Your point seems to be that somehow the oppressive class - men are influenced by this new, harsher drag.
How can that be if they're not even watching it?

Do you think its ok to show racist content on TV because people can just turn the TV off?

I know what sex class means. I just think that you're wrong.

this was explained really well a few posts op

oppressor class degrading women
women have less value
experience more violence from oppressor class

Well said

I don't watch it, but I've seen various bits and pieces of it because it's so ubiquitous in the media. The BBC went through a phase of reporting on all things drag all the time a while ago. You don't actually have to watch these shows to be influenced by them.

The issue is not that men are influenced by drag. It's that drag is a mockery of an oppressed class by an oppressor class.

Many black people in the American South used to enjoy the very old travelling minstrel shows, and some minstrel shows even had black members in the troupe (or all black troupes, rarely) - does that mean that minstrel shows aren't racist?

Why is it not okay to showcase casual racism, but it is okay to showcase casual sexism?

Your understanding seems to be limited on this subject.

Drag doesn't cause the male sex class to oppress, rape and objectify women.
BUT because the male sex class does rape, assault and objectify women, a man dressing up as a stereotype of a women from a male perspective becomes extremely offensive to many women. 76% on this thread alone.