AIBU to find drag on mainstream TV disrespectful to women?

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AIBU to think that drag is derogative woman face and unacceptable.

Women are oppressed by men, for example;

• 1 in 4 women will be raped by a man in their lifetime.
• Men generally hold most of the power and wealth, 90% of the ultra-wealthy in the world are men.
• Men are less likely to experience sexual harassment and often have more freedom of movement without fear of violence.
• Men are generally free from unpaid caring roles
• Women are more likely to be objectified by men and valued for their body and youth whereas men are not and this creates a power imbalance.

With this in mind AIBU to think drag on main stream TV such as this 'artist' is totally unacceptable.

He has made fun and a jokes about lactation in grotesque fashion, squeezing cream out of his huge fake tits into a cup and has made fun of pregnancy and wears comedy size 'tits' and 'arse'.

The portrayal of any group's body or bodily functions in a grotesque manner for humour should surely be considered unacceptable, particularly when it mirrors historical patterns of oppression. Shouldn't it?

The link is twitter
Drag Race

For those that don't have twitter I have added some screen shots.

Ok so I posted yabu before I clicked the link, apologies! Generally no issue with drag or panto dames but that's a bit much for mainstream TV.

No problem with drag in general for general comedy. Thinking Les Dawson and Paul O'Grady here.
As long as they're not men calling themselves women when out of it, I have no strong opinions on it.
What I hate is this general conflation of drag and transgender stuff.

Les Dawson and Paul O'Grady were men. They never called themselves women so fair enough.

What is more, nobody thought that they were.

Yabu to think that all the things you list, while ranging from not good to downright horrible, have got anything to do with drag, though.

Just don't see the connection.

I just can't see the difference between drag and the black-and-white minstrels from decades ago - both equally bad.

In the same way I can't understand how that Rachel woman who said she was black was freely hated when a man who says he's a woman isn't.

I don’t really understand your ‘women are oppressed by men’ list in relation to drag - by that logic surely you’d think men need banning from main stream tv. I haven’t clicked your link though

This. Drag is really no different to minstrel shows. YANBU, OP.

Couldn't agree more OP.

Thinly veiled misogyny.

Those pictures are disgusting

Paul O'Grady as Lily Savage certainly said "she" was a woman, or rather, "one of the girls". That kind of humour - and Les Dawson in drag - is pretty harmless though. Dame Edna too. We all knew they were playing a character and they were very funny. Same with panto dames.

The new drag though is a long way from them, I think. I find it extremely distasteful. The pics the OP has posted - hardly Les Dawson, is it?

YANBU, OP.

Who watches this crap. It's not even funny. There must be a demand for it as otherwise they'd stop.

Totally agree

Its disrespectful womanface plain and simple, no other group are expected to put up with this shit, always us innit! We are being reduced to a costume to wear or mock, by the same group that oppress us.

Sorry, I probably wasn't clear enough.

When you have a sex class (men) that are statistically a danger to the other sex class (women) and part of that danger is the fact that many men see women through their own lens of a collection of body parts for their own gain.
For example we know that at least 1 in 4 women will be raped by a man in their lifetime simply because they are biologically women.

When men dress as women and grotequely depict women's body parts and bodily functions as something to laugh about I think the comedy is steeped in misogyny.

There are some real morons out there, who would be slightly more intelligent if they had full lobtomonies

Men are welcome on main stream TV as long as they don't grotesquely portray women's bodily functions and body parts the way only some men see (but no women) them for laughs

I have always thought this.

Drag mocks women. We are being mocked by men - our historical oppressors.

Drag is as bad as blackface and you will not convince me otherwise

Yes, you are right, op. It's the monstrous imitation of this kind of drag that displays nothing but contempt for women.

Don't agree based on your list of victimhood points for women, but agree that drag is a perverse and grotesque mockery of women and has no place on mainstream TV.

Well yeah Paul. O'Grady referred to her as she but so what? When not in character, he was a man.
Barry Humphries was the same about Dame Edna. All part of the joke.
All I'm saying is that not all drag is offensive, maybe the newer stuff is, I agree.

I don't see the link between Dame Edna, Lily Savage, Cissy and Ada, Hinge and Bracket and men raping women.

It puzzles me who the target audience is
generally women hate it
can’t see men being interested
most of my gay friends hate drag

The things I listed are things that happen to women by men as a sex class.

That same sex class is on main stream TV depicting women as a sum of a pair of tits and milk squirting from them for laughs.

I'd like to ask if you think it would be ok for white women to dress up on main stream TV and mock/parody black women in an inaccurate stereotype of how some white women see black women for laughs? Because that is exactly what this is.

I agree with you, i have always hated this kind of drag , I believe as you that it mocks women and in the past few years it’s become worse .

There are so many added layers to this. All the contestants on the last episode I watched of Drag Race were homosexual men - if you’re a man and your whole social circle prioritizes men, then yes, women are going to be seen as a group that it’s acceptable to mock. “we’re oppressed too!” Maybe you are, but heterosexual men don’t target your group for SA and rape the way women have been historically targeted. And that makes the humour very different - they think it’s punching sideways, but it’s really punching down, and good humour used to involve punching “up.”

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Should have no place on TV in 2026

The link is that men oppress women, still today we have to make decisions and change our behaviour because of male oppression.

For example getting a taxi home even if you want to walk because you are worried about being attacked by a man. Or choosing to get into a particular train carriage simply because the other one had a lone male in it. Or keeping quiet and keeping your head down on the street when you are a young teen when men heckle at you.

So when that sex class depict women as exaggerated body parts for laughs and exaggerated bodily functions for laughs it becomes unacceptable because they oppress that same sex class every day.

The link is how men, as a sex class treat women generally, and then parody us through their own lens on main stream TV