AIBU to find drag on mainstream TV disrespectful to women?

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AIBU to think that drag is derogative woman face and unacceptable.

Women are oppressed by men, for example;

• 1 in 4 women will be raped by a man in their lifetime.
• Men generally hold most of the power and wealth, 90% of the ultra-wealthy in the world are men.
• Men are less likely to experience sexual harassment and often have more freedom of movement without fear of violence.
• Men are generally free from unpaid caring roles
• Women are more likely to be objectified by men and valued for their body and youth whereas men are not and this creates a power imbalance.

With this in mind AIBU to think drag on main stream TV such as this 'artist' is totally unacceptable.

He has made fun and a jokes about lactation in grotesque fashion, squeezing cream out of his huge fake tits into a cup and has made fun of pregnancy and wears comedy size 'tits' and 'arse'.

The portrayal of any group's body or bodily functions in a grotesque manner for humour should surely be considered unacceptable, particularly when it mirrors historical patterns of oppression. Shouldn't it?

The link is twitter
Drag Race

For those that don't have twitter I have added some screen shots.

Please could you answer this question because if it's ok for those men to mock women because they are gay and oppressed themselves then, as white women are oppressed too, do you think it would be ok for white women to dress up on main stream TV and mock/parody black women in an inaccurate stereotype of how some white women see black women for laughs? Because that is exactly what this is.

Also same with Dick Emery, Stanley Baxter and Hinge & Bracket. None of them wore huge fake boobs.

All this punching up, down and sideways is ridiculous. It's nothing but misogyny, no matter who is doing it.

We also live in a world where women in some countries are treated like they are dirty for their natural periods, they are made to sleep in the outhouses with no sanitation until their period is over. Their bodily functions seen as disgusting. And her is a man depicting women's bodily functions as grotesque and something to laugh about.

With this in mind do you still think it's ok for men, any men, to depict women's bodily functions in a grotesque way for laughs. The bodily function of breast feeding to me isn't something that is funny, especially depicted in such an awful way. Dehumanising.

Drag shows are very popular entertainment. The proper professional Drag queen's arent pretending be women, they are playing a part.
If you dont want to see it on TV there is an off button to switch it off

I agree with this entirely

Even if it is punching sideways, it's not Ok. If you're beside us, then stand with us. Don't mock and degrade us.

I agree with this although there was a little bit of ageism involved in some of the character's played by Les Dawson and Hinge and Bracket. But in general terms towards older women it was fine.

Then why do they emulate female secondary sexual characteristics, and have 'she' and 'her' used in reference to them?

Perhaps people should've just 'switched off' the minstrel shows?

You seem to have grossly misunderstood me.

My point: they think they’re punching sideways, but they’re actually punching downwards. So yes, it would be exactly like a white woman mocking a black woman. It’s a power dynamic. Hope this clarifies it for @MrCollinsandhisboiledpotatoes as well?

Perhaps they did switch off the minstrel show. Thats their prerogative

Really though, it's just unnecessary, huge tits or not. Just as blackface is distasteful even if they're not doing an offensive portrayal of black people.

The only time men need to do 'acts' as women is if boys at a single sex school are putting on a play, and need someone to play the female character.

So just to be clear, you don't have an issue with either drag, or minstrel shows being broadcast?

I think you've missed understood me
I'm not saying they're punching sideways
I'm saying that even if they were it would still be unacceptable

YANBU. It is revolting woman hatred.

Irrelevant question, The minstrel show is no longer broadcast on TV

What if there were an audience who found it entertaining? What if it were televised by the nation's broadcaster, so that you could not avoid your licence fee going towards it and registering your protest by turning it off made no difference?

When did I say they’re punching sideways or that punching sideways is acceptable? So why quote me?

I'll take that as a yes, given your previous comments.

I think it’s very telling that b&w minstrels have been cancelled whilst Drag rages on unchallenged. The voices calling against racism get listened to, the voices calling against mysogyny get ignored. Drag is the equivalent of blackface.

You're being over sensitive. I am on your side. I am agreeing with you. I quoted you to expand on your point.

And how do you think Black people felt whilst it was showing and white people were enjoying the parody of the then oppressed group for fun.

I think that it's one hell of a leap to say that Les Dawson, Paul O'Grady, Barry Humphries and those two guys who played Hinge and Bracket are somehow responsible for men raping women.

And no I don't think that white women dressing up as black women is the same, either.

I don’t have time to read the post but wanted to say - thank goodness someone else thinks so

I can’t believe the bbc are so hooked on drag - complete mysogeny in my book

They are contributing to the degradation of women
Which then leads to a more misogynistic society.
Which then leads to more attacks on women