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AIBU for making DD12 give up her treat for eating more than her share of a takeaway?

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SongsOfSongs · Today 09:23

My DD12 is a big eater and honestly can be quite greedy. She has often tried to take more than her fair share when sharing food with her sister DD11. This weekend, we ordered takeaway and there was a side for the two of them to share. Typically they will divide the side up to start with so there are no complaints about either of them eating too much of it. However, we were in the middle of watching a movie when the food came. I told DD12 to divide the side up and she said "oh, it's ok, we can share it reasonably" and I said fine since we were in a hurry. Maybe 10 minutes later I look and she has eaten all but 2 pieces of the side (out of 30 maybe?). I ask DD11 if she's had any and she bursts into tears and says no. DD12 says sorry repeatedly and that she didn't mean to do it.

It wasn't something that was easy to rectify at the time, so we said that DD12 would owe DD11 something. DD12 is in secondary school and gets an extra pound or so each week to spend on a treat at lunchtime on Wednesdays. AIBU to tell DD12 that she needs to buy the Wednesday treat and bring it home for her sister tomorrow? If there is a better suggestion, please let me know!

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GingerdeadMan · Today 10:44

KidsDoBetter · Today 10:37

Oh ffs. Google Almond mom

Poor kid must be genuinely hungry to nom through a box of beans 😞

dontmalbeconme · Today 10:44

Why was DD2 fannying around and not eating her edamame beans? I mean, she could literally reach over and take a handful or two and put them on her plate. She didn't, yet turned on the waterworks because her sister ate more. I can sense the dynamic here.

SongsOfSongs · Today 10:44

Cakeandcardio · Today 10:12

Well is she going through a growth spurt? I was a skinny kid but when I was growing, I was always starving. I remember feeling hungry a lot. Food isn't something to be bullied over. Being labelled as 'greedy' as s child is not kind or helpful. It is just a label that will stay with her as she grows. Perhaps show compassion and find out the cause of the eating?

But no. I wouldn't punish for this. If you are concerned about weight then you need to re-evaluate your role in that as children should not be having takeaways often

People jump to so many conclusions on here, yet it always still manages to shock me a bit!

No, I am not concerned about DD12's weight (she is quite thin) and they had sushi and edamame from the takeaway. We get a takeaway once or twice a month.

OP posts:
GingerdeadMan · Today 10:45

SongsOfSongs · Today 10:41

If I'm plating up their dinners, I always give DD12 more food. However, this was a takeaway where they chose their meals and which they've had multiple times before. I was not withholding food from her and there was plenty more food in the house if she was still hungry.

FGS take responsibility for dealing with it if this is known issue.

Just divide up the food yourself. Job done.

No need for all the wailing and judgement.

Greengage1983 · Today 10:46

EvangelinaMae · Today 10:28

I don't think I've seen a more dysfunctional thread on here tbh.

And all over what sounds like fucking popcorn chicken.

I feel sorry for the 12 yr old, jesus Christ.

When you say dysfunctional, you mean the people saying there should be no consequences for a secondary-age child depriving her sister of her share of their something they were both looking forward to, after saying she would share it sensibly, right? I agree. I feel so sorry for the younger children in these families who think it's OK for the older sibling to just walk all over them and take their stuff with no consequences.

godmum56 · Today 10:46

Smartiepants79 · Today 09:32

It’s not about food in general it’s about this specific food . It wasn’t hers to eat.

except it is about food in general because it happens often. This is not greed or bad behaviour this is an eating disorder or organic problem.

romanholidays · Today 10:47

Food should never be used as a punishment.

Greengage1983 · Today 10:47

GingerdeadMan · Today 10:44

Poor kid must be genuinely hungry to nom through a box of beans 😞

What a ridiculous thing to say.

SongsOfSongs · Today 10:49

LittleMissClutter · Today 10:22

Two questions:

  1. Given that you know what she's like, why didn't you dish it up?
  2. If you were just watching a movie, why were you 'in a hurry'?

We were in a hurry to get back to the movie, so I said ok. As I said elsewhere, I thought it was possible DD12 was now mature enough to handle fairly sharing food and it was worth a punt because we hadn't tried in quite a while. Obviously not though!

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GingerdeadMan · Today 10:50

Greengage1983 · Today 10:47

What a ridiculous thing to say.

Why? 🤷‍♀️

Its not the type of moreish snack food that's easy to gobble too much of if you're casually eating in front of the tv eg crisps.

Whysnothingsimple · Today 10:50

Is she overweight? Is her sister underweight? My 13 year old eats loads more than me and if watching a film people don’t consciously eat. Maybe she’s just eating what’s in front of her because she’s hungry. I’m not sure you can expect a child to stop eating whilst watching a film get up and get food out the kitchen because they’ve noticed they’ve had half.

Your description of your own daughter as “greedy” is awful and judgemental. If your that concerned you should have insisted on sharing the sides (you were too busy to split some peas? Reallly?) or kept an eye on them for signs of what you say is a pattern of behaviour.

No matter what your intentions punishing your DD1 in relation to food choices will create food issues. Try education and boundary setting before an issue arises. And if you’re calling your DD greedy in your head, trust me, she hears it loud and clear in your behaviour and reactions

AmethystDeceiver · Today 10:51

SongsOfSongs · Today 10:49

We were in a hurry to get back to the movie, so I said ok. As I said elsewhere, I thought it was possible DD12 was now mature enough to handle fairly sharing food and it was worth a punt because we hadn't tried in quite a while. Obviously not though!

So just don't do it again! Learn your lesson, and move on. The drama...

Fast800goingforit · Today 10:51

Clogblog · Today 09:33

I would ask DD12 what she thinks is the best way to make it up to her sister - if she is genuinely sorry, her answer might surprise you and it is more likely to be effective if she believes in it

More generally she clearly has food issues. I think you're setting her up to fail with sharing a side if she struggles with binge eating

You cannot say the OP's older DD has food issues. We have no idea what meals are like at the OP's house and only the OP's word to go on.

I think her older daughter has apologised and there needs to be a conversation about consideration for others. No use of food as a reward or withdrawal of a treat as punishment.

Gymnopedie · Today 10:51

DD12 said they could handle it and I thought it had been a while since we'd tried so maybe she had matured and would be more mindful. I learned my lesson!

Of course it was DD12 who said they could handle it - her way. What did she think she meant when she said she couldn't help it?

But you have bigger problems. You say she is often mean to DD11. What are you doing about that?

SongsOfSongs · Today 10:53

Sidebeforeself · Today 10:29

Sounds like you just wanted us to agree with you OP.

I mean isn't that sort of the point of asking on AIBU? Obviously you hope you've made the right decision and you hope others agree with you. At the end of the day, I'll probably stick to my decision, but who knows, maybe I'll be convinced otherwise. Listening to other reasonable points of view is good and the loonies just give me something to laugh at.

OP posts:
GingerdeadMan · Today 10:56

Well if everyone who disagrees with you is a 'loony', I guess there's no point discussing anything is there?

Bit self righteous and dismissive.

Good luck with your beans.

Caddycat · Today 10:57

RoseField1 · Today 10:40

Chomping through a whole bowl of edamame beans does not indicate an eating disorder FFS

Umm, the greed does. OP said DD is greedy generally so this is not an isolated event. The need to share was pointed out to her and yet she couldn't help but eat the whole lot. That sort of compulsion suggests there is an issue, especially if it applies to a side rather than a bowl of sweets.

NeverDropYourMooncup · Today 10:57

SongsOfSongs · Today 10:24

It was a big pot of edamame pods, not chips or something.

So you're creating all this and getting the internet to join in over about 50kcals of little green beans?

Buy two lots next time.

Greengage1983 · Today 10:57

KidsDoBetter · Today 10:42

It doesn’t. But your mother being obsessed with your eating and punishing your over endamame will give her one.

You mean, your mother insisting on fairness, and not letting you eat your sister's share of the treat as well as your own?

tachetastic · Today 10:57

Greengage1983 · Today 10:41

Oh come on, it's not unreasonable to expect children to gain skills as they get older, and to give them an opportunity to practice those skills. Especially when a secondary-age child has just said "I have this skill now, I am ready to put it into practice". She's not a toddler.

Perhaps, but then you let DD12 demonstrate this newfound restraint she has never shown before when it’s your own supper at stake, not her little sisters, or at least you monitor whether she is in fact demonstrating that skill rather than happily eating your own dinner in front of the tv and only picking up the fact that she doesn’t yet have that skill when her little sister’s food is eaten.

Scandalicious · Today 10:58

An 11 year old crying because they have fewer edamame pods is something!

It’s good that your DD12 is not overweight but even still I would avoid turning food and appetite into a moral issue. I wouldn’t use the term greedy in your thinking about this, as I don’t really think it’s appropriate. I probably would have just gone with apology and reminder to be more thoughtful next time, although next time just divide them up. It’s easy when watching a movie to forget to count remaining edamame beans. If a punishment is that important to you, definitely make it one that is unconnected with food. Even if your DD just gives the treat money to her sister so her sister can buy whatever with it.

CatsMagic · Today 10:58

I think letting kids graze over a takeaway is a terrible idea so you have to accept the fault here
as the parent.

Plating up a portion is a much better way of being able to enjoy your food , takeaway food is designed to make you want more so grazing is a sure fire way to eat more than you should , especially when you add in watching movie and being 12.

And I am by no means a competitive under eater, I enjoy my food , part of that is knowing that if I grazed over a takeaway I would over eat!

Lomonald · Today 10:59

SongsOfSongs · Today 10:53

I mean isn't that sort of the point of asking on AIBU? Obviously you hope you've made the right decision and you hope others agree with you. At the end of the day, I'll probably stick to my decision, but who knows, maybe I'll be convinced otherwise. Listening to other reasonable points of view is good and the loonies just give me something to laugh at.

If you think posters are "loonies" for trying to offer a different perspective or even help you with your Dd and her attitude then I think that is telling.

CatsMagic · Today 11:00

OK I have just seen the updates and that all this drama is over a pot of beans.

Get a bloody grip OP .

Greengage1983 · Today 11:02

GingerdeadMan · Today 10:50

Why? 🤷‍♀️

Its not the type of moreish snack food that's easy to gobble too much of if you're casually eating in front of the tv eg crisps.

Well it is if you like Edamame beans! Which both the girls obviously do, to have chosen it for themselves and be arguing over it.

If you're still hungry after your dinner, you can have a bowl of cereal, some fruit, yoghurt or a slice of toast (or all of those!), but you don't get to nick your sister's food! For god's sake, how is that fair on the sister? What sort of lesson is that teaching the 12 year old going forward - that she can take what she likes and sod anyone else?