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To think 7yo deliberately hurting 2yo is not normal?

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Xante · 10/05/2026 15:50

7yo SS has repeatedly hurt my 2yo DD. It’s not done in upset or anger, more play-fighting, but I feel it’s completely unacceptable. SS is generally a sweet boy who wants love and approval, but this is making me actively dislike him.

How can we deal with this?

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Goldenbear · 10/05/2026 23:16

Xante · 10/05/2026 17:21

I don’t think he’s a psychopath. He’s seven, he’s had to code-switch between different houses and expectations for his whole life,and he’s struggling with appropriate behaviour with peers as well as his other sisters, who he regularly gets into scraps with too. For that reason I don’t think it’s just jealousy, and I don’t think it’s particularly premeditated, more that this is the way he plays and interacts as standard... Which is obviously completely unacceptable and unwelcome from everyone in his life, not just DD. I don’t think the issue is just with DD iyswim, but her safety is my primary concern.

DP backs me about it, but does think some level of roughhousing and accidents between children is normal. As a nerdy bookish only child it is alien to me and I accept maybe I am on one extreme.

The only time I’ve ever raised my voice to any of SC is on this matter (and once when one did something dangerous). It makes me incredibly angry. SS sulks then apologises, then goes home to his mum’s and I assume forgets all about it til next time.

How many children does your DP have- is he able to spend enough time with them all?

addictedtotheflats · 10/05/2026 23:40

I have a 7 year old and 2 year year old and this is not normal. Yes my 7 year old might get a bit carried away in games but he would never inflict pain or bruising or drop her on concrete just because.

raisinglittlepeople12 · 10/05/2026 23:45

Could he be picking up that you prefer the baby? Disliking a child isn’t very mature or empathetic. As a parent figure it’s your job to love and nurture SS, including working out why negative behaviours are arising and supporting them to overcome them.

Xante · 11/05/2026 06:53

Moonnstarz · 10/05/2026 21:46

How often do they see their dad as you say her they aren't here that often? Do you mean coming to your house or just in general that he doesn't see his dad that often?

It sounds tricky if you don't see them often to be the ones to enforce the boundaries and if you don't have them at yours regularly it's easier for things to slip due to lack of consistency and routine.

They’re with us every other weekend and for seven weeks of school holidays (the majority of which are spent with family, so there’s more adults around and he’s more likely to be getting 121 from someone). His mum moved away when they split.

From what SDs have said, it sounds like they regularly spend time with babysitters and other family instead of their mum, and that discipline is very inconsistent. As such I suspect they have created their own system which consists of SDs telling off SS, him lashing out at them, and the little sister there avoiding him.

I’m sure he would prefer more 121 time (he already gets more than anyone else). I’m sure he’d be happier as an only child, frankly. But that doesn’t mean he’s allowed to hurt his sisters.

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Xante · 11/05/2026 07:01

Flightyflora · 10/05/2026 21:54

@Xante is your daughter safe at night when he is in the house ? Can he get into her bedroom ?

No, she cosleeps with me. He’s always slept like a log too. But I’ll be honest and say we’ve been looking to move, and I’ve been very drawn to homes that have rooms on different floors so I could put him somewhere he wouldn’t be anywhere near her.

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Needspaceforlego · 11/05/2026 07:29

The more you write the more sorry I feel for him.
It sounds like he's being bullied by his older sisters, and is treating the younger sisters the way he is being treated.

He had lots of up heaval in his short life. Split parents, being left with babysitters, inconsistencies. Possible ASD.

He sounds a very unhappy wee boy. I think you should try to get professional help for him.
I think finding out if he does have ASD / ADHD would be a good starting point. I know its not exactly cheap but i don't think you can afford to wait for CAHMS.

Moonnstarz · 11/05/2026 07:41

Needspaceforlego · 11/05/2026 07:29

The more you write the more sorry I feel for him.
It sounds like he's being bullied by his older sisters, and is treating the younger sisters the way he is being treated.

He had lots of up heaval in his short life. Split parents, being left with babysitters, inconsistencies. Possible ASD.

He sounds a very unhappy wee boy. I think you should try to get professional help for him.
I think finding out if he does have ASD / ADHD would be a good starting point. I know its not exactly cheap but i don't think you can afford to wait for CAHMS.

I agree. Usually children who bully others do have a lot going on in their lives which triggers them to behave this way.
It sounds like a total lack of consistency within his main home, then the fact his parents are separated means more inconsistencies in parenting, both parents will appear to him to have moved on and be more interested in their new families.
I think you do need to sort things now else he will be a difficult teenager.

Needspaceforlego · 11/05/2026 08:02

My last post i said 'you should get professional help' I meant you as a couple but to be fair its not really your responsibility it needs to be his Dad and Mum.

BudgetBuster · 11/05/2026 08:19

His life sounds absolutely hectic!

He's 7. He has two homes. One of which he spends hardly any time in. The other he has lots of babysitters and is kept away from a sibling. During summer holidays he's off with loads of family (who he may not see very regularly either) and away from his main home for a very long time (given his age). He has 2 new younger siblings, one in each home. He has 2 new step-parents.

I can't imagine how he'd be expected to act like a rational child tbh.

Xante · 11/05/2026 08:43

Needspaceforlego · 11/05/2026 07:29

The more you write the more sorry I feel for him.
It sounds like he's being bullied by his older sisters, and is treating the younger sisters the way he is being treated.

He had lots of up heaval in his short life. Split parents, being left with babysitters, inconsistencies. Possible ASD.

He sounds a very unhappy wee boy. I think you should try to get professional help for him.
I think finding out if he does have ASD / ADHD would be a good starting point. I know its not exactly cheap but i don't think you can afford to wait for CAHMS.

I feel sorry for him too. I do think that with consistency and proper boundaries, he’d flourish. But unfortunately I’m not in a position to enforce it. We’d happily have him more but his mum wouldn’t agree.

I don’t think he has autism personally, I think he’s the product of his environment: little consistency or structure, far too much screen time, multiple caregivers from the start, and busy households. I do suspect ADHD.

An example conversation:

Me: please put your coat on, it looks like it might rain
SS: do you think it might rain?
Me: yes, so put your coat on
SS: is it going to rain today?
Me: I don’t know but the clouds are grey
SS: so you think it might rain?
Me: yes
SS: should I put my coat on?
Me: yes
SS: Oh! So do you think it’s going to rain today?
Me: please just put your coat on SS
SS: why?

And so on… It’s like he’s learnt that talking gets attention so he just speaks. I don’t get cross with him but it is very wearying. If he’s the same at school, as well as ignoring personal space and being too physical, I can fully see why other kids don’t want to play with him.

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C152 · 11/05/2026 08:55

I think you're being too generous in your view of your stepson, OP; probably because there isn't really a solution. If you stay, you MUST keep your DD with you at all times when your stepson is in the house; you cannot leave her alone for even 1 minute. If you leave, you'll have to trust your ex to keep his son away from your DD, and you know he won't. I feel bad for both you and your DD.

It speaks volumes that you're thinking of new homes with bedrooms on different levels so that you can keep your stepson away from your daughter. This isn't normal. Your stepson's behaviour isn't normal. How will she keep herself safe, even if your stepson has a bedroom on a different floor? When she's old enough to sleep in her own room, will you tell her to lock the door, even though it presents a fire hazard? The more I think about it, the more I think you have to leave and come to a custody arrangement where DD is not with your ex whilst your stepson is there.

ViciousCurrentBun · 11/05/2026 09:03

He is doing it deliberately, there is a lot more at play here. I remember being very jealous of my step baby sister when she was born. We never got on that well though she was the bully towards me, she was the same size as me when she was 3 and I was 6 as I was very small. He feels pushed out plus his life sounds way more hectic than our childhood mechanics.

We have a lot of siblings that are a lot older than us 12 year plus. Her behaviour never improved, as an adult I can state she takes pleasure in causing others pain in anyway she can. When Mother died we all cut her off.

TheBlueKoala · 11/05/2026 09:11

Xante · 11/05/2026 08:43

I feel sorry for him too. I do think that with consistency and proper boundaries, he’d flourish. But unfortunately I’m not in a position to enforce it. We’d happily have him more but his mum wouldn’t agree.

I don’t think he has autism personally, I think he’s the product of his environment: little consistency or structure, far too much screen time, multiple caregivers from the start, and busy households. I do suspect ADHD.

An example conversation:

Me: please put your coat on, it looks like it might rain
SS: do you think it might rain?
Me: yes, so put your coat on
SS: is it going to rain today?
Me: I don’t know but the clouds are grey
SS: so you think it might rain?
Me: yes
SS: should I put my coat on?
Me: yes
SS: Oh! So do you think it’s going to rain today?
Me: please just put your coat on SS
SS: why?

And so on… It’s like he’s learnt that talking gets attention so he just speaks. I don’t get cross with him but it is very wearying. If he’s the same at school, as well as ignoring personal space and being too physical, I can fully see why other kids don’t want to play with him.

That sounds like my autistic DS1 now 16 tbh. He is extremely anxious and I need to repeat the same things over and over. It's not that he doesn't "get it" on an intellectual level but he needs reassurance and repetion gives him that. I'm not going to lie to you ; he's exhausting to be around and I'm his mother who loves him very much.

HAPPILYMARRIEDSINCE2012 · 11/05/2026 09:13

catipuss · 10/05/2026 15:58

That does sound like jealousy, he was the baby and only child now he has this interloper, it needs handling carefully, but he needs plenty of extra attention and big boy praise, a difficult situation.

This

Xante · 11/05/2026 09:25

I’m sure he is jealous of DD, his other baby sister, and his big sisters, for various reasons, but I don’t know what can be done about it. DD has her parents living together, doesn’t have to travel, doesn’t often have babysitters, and has more attention and clubs because she is mostly an only child, with more toys and clothes here because she actually lives here.

SS already gets more 121 time with DP and me than anyone else when he’s here, he gets routine and structure, he gets plenty of physical exercise, he gets praise and encouragement and rewards for hard work and nice playing, which he embraces fully.

DP will speak again to the school and his mum. I don’t know what else I can do personally except keep DD away from him at all times (which will seem like a punishment to him, and probably increase resentment, because he likes to be with me and her).

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Needspaceforlego · 11/05/2026 09:27

Xante · 11/05/2026 08:43

I feel sorry for him too. I do think that with consistency and proper boundaries, he’d flourish. But unfortunately I’m not in a position to enforce it. We’d happily have him more but his mum wouldn’t agree.

I don’t think he has autism personally, I think he’s the product of his environment: little consistency or structure, far too much screen time, multiple caregivers from the start, and busy households. I do suspect ADHD.

An example conversation:

Me: please put your coat on, it looks like it might rain
SS: do you think it might rain?
Me: yes, so put your coat on
SS: is it going to rain today?
Me: I don’t know but the clouds are grey
SS: so you think it might rain?
Me: yes
SS: should I put my coat on?
Me: yes
SS: Oh! So do you think it’s going to rain today?
Me: please just put your coat on SS
SS: why?

And so on… It’s like he’s learnt that talking gets attention so he just speaks. I don’t get cross with him but it is very wearying. If he’s the same at school, as well as ignoring personal space and being too physical, I can fully see why other kids don’t want to play with him.

You sound like you have the patience of a saint.
I gave up fighting about coats years ago. My compromise is take it with you.
My now 8yo hates coats, as a 2/3 yo he'd drop his shoulders so it slid off before I could zip it. Or he'd unzip before I could get mine on.
My teen loves coats - even in summer!

Is there some sort of mediation, family therapy available to both his mum and dad?

Xante · 11/05/2026 09:42

TheBlueKoala · 11/05/2026 09:11

That sounds like my autistic DS1 now 16 tbh. He is extremely anxious and I need to repeat the same things over and over. It's not that he doesn't "get it" on an intellectual level but he needs reassurance and repetion gives him that. I'm not going to lie to you ; he's exhausting to be around and I'm his mother who loves him very much.

You have my sympathies! It is very wearying. I don’t think it’s anxiety so much for SS as just wanting to have a conversation, any conversation, because that means he’s getting the other person’s attention.

When he’s in a good place - well rested, recent exercise, calm environment, ideally no other children around - he can focus and be great company. He’s clever and funny, and does really well at school and sports when he applies himself. But it’s not just feasible for him to be the centre of attention all of the time in a household of four kids.

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Xante · 11/05/2026 09:59

Needspaceforlego · 11/05/2026 09:27

You sound like you have the patience of a saint.
I gave up fighting about coats years ago. My compromise is take it with you.
My now 8yo hates coats, as a 2/3 yo he'd drop his shoulders so it slid off before I could zip it. Or he'd unzip before I could get mine on.
My teen loves coats - even in summer!

Is there some sort of mediation, family therapy available to both his mum and dad?

I imagine there would be private family therapy available, but his mum doesn’t think there’s a problem, so wouldn’t engage, and I don’t know how much value there’d be in doing it without her.

That conversation was just an example of how he’ll keep a conversation going over absolutely nothing… He will put on the coat or do whatever’s requested without arguing, but he won’t let a conversation die.

Another example from last weekend:

Me: remind me we need more eggs when we get to the shop!
SS: do you like eggs?
Me: yes, what’s your favourite way to eat them?
SS: I don’t eat eggs
Me: but you had some boiled eggs for breakfast
SS: actually I do like eggs, do you like eggs?
Me: yes
SS: have you ever eaten an egg?
Me: SS, we ate eggs for breakfast together this morning. You saw me eat eggs
SS: but did you see me eat an egg?
Me: yes
SS: when did you last eat an egg?

It’s just repetitive hogwash rather than an actual conversation. I don’t know if this is symptomatic of something.

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BudgetBuster · 11/05/2026 10:09

Xante · 11/05/2026 09:59

I imagine there would be private family therapy available, but his mum doesn’t think there’s a problem, so wouldn’t engage, and I don’t know how much value there’d be in doing it without her.

That conversation was just an example of how he’ll keep a conversation going over absolutely nothing… He will put on the coat or do whatever’s requested without arguing, but he won’t let a conversation die.

Another example from last weekend:

Me: remind me we need more eggs when we get to the shop!
SS: do you like eggs?
Me: yes, what’s your favourite way to eat them?
SS: I don’t eat eggs
Me: but you had some boiled eggs for breakfast
SS: actually I do like eggs, do you like eggs?
Me: yes
SS: have you ever eaten an egg?
Me: SS, we ate eggs for breakfast together this morning. You saw me eat eggs
SS: but did you see me eat an egg?
Me: yes
SS: when did you last eat an egg?

It’s just repetitive hogwash rather than an actual conversation. I don’t know if this is symptomatic of something.

Repetitive hogwash?
He's a young child making conversation...

Xante · 11/05/2026 10:18

BudgetBuster · 11/05/2026 10:09

Repetitive hogwash?
He's a young child making conversation...

Maybe I haven’t represented it well, but often, it’s not like a normal conversation where two people listen and respond to each other. It’s incredibly repetitive and I don’t think he’s really aware of what I’m saying or what he’s saying, he’s just saying words.

SDs didn’t communicate like this at 7, nor do my friends’ children, nor does DD and she’s only just learning to speak. All children talk nonsense sometimes but this is almost every conversation with SS. It’s a struggle to get him to read a page of a book (even though he is a competent reader) because he’s so easily distracted.

I do wonder if it’s symptomatic of ADHD.

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BudgetBuster · 11/05/2026 10:22

Xante · 11/05/2026 10:18

Maybe I haven’t represented it well, but often, it’s not like a normal conversation where two people listen and respond to each other. It’s incredibly repetitive and I don’t think he’s really aware of what I’m saying or what he’s saying, he’s just saying words.

SDs didn’t communicate like this at 7, nor do my friends’ children, nor does DD and she’s only just learning to speak. All children talk nonsense sometimes but this is almost every conversation with SS. It’s a struggle to get him to read a page of a book (even though he is a competent reader) because he’s so easily distracted.

I do wonder if it’s symptomatic of ADHD.

It's symptomatic of the utter chaos he is living through tbh.

His poor little life sounds insane.

Enigma54 · 11/05/2026 10:35

Please safeguard that little girl. You are her MOTHER! This isn’t the usual rough and tumble between siblings. This is clear abuse. That 7 year old boy needs professional help and quick!

Remember the Jamie Bulgar case OP???

Xante · 11/05/2026 10:37

BudgetBuster · 11/05/2026 10:22

It's symptomatic of the utter chaos he is living through tbh.

His poor little life sounds insane.

It’s not insane or utter chaos; something like 50% of children’s parents break up before they turn eighteen, many of which will go on to have other children. Seeing family during holidays and using babysitters isn’t child abuse. He’s loved in both homes.

His life is unstructured and inconsistent though and like I’ve said repeatedly, I feel sorry for him and can see why his environment is making him behave like this. I am worried for him because I can see his life ending up badly if he can’t form appropriate relationships or focus, and I don’t want that for him.

I don’t see what more I can do personally to improve his life whilst prioritising DD’s safety though. Realistically I need to take a big step back from him now, to put her first.

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StillAGoth · 11/05/2026 10:52

I did query ADHD with the school - via DP - and we had to do a questionnaire, as did his mum. It was decided he didn’t have it.

I do wonder if it’s symptomatic of ADHD.

OK.

The questionnaires have been completed and submitted and the professionals have decided, based on these, that he doesn't meet the threshold for further investigation into ADHD at this stage. That doesn't mean he definitely doesn't have it. But it does mean that it's not something that is going to be pursued at this stage unless you pay to go private, when they still might decide he doesn't meet the threshold for assessment.

What you do have though is a child who is living in less than ideal circumstances, whose life is chaotic for a 7 year old.

Before you pin your flag to the mast of ADHD and decide its that and nothing else, I would strongly recommend that you get real life professional advice and support for him and yourselves in terms of parenting a child who has experienced trauma.

There are certain traits of adhd and autism that are mimicked in trauma responses in children. A lot of parents feel more comfortable with the idea that their child is autistic or has adhd rather than trauma, for exanple, because the latter carries a sense of 'blame' or responsibility. And not all of those children will have been exposed to trauma so it's not likely to he an explanation anyway. But your stepson has and you feel yourself that he's a product of his environment.

What you have described in terms of the repetitive conversation could, for example, be an example of him trying to keep himself 'alive' in the conversation. To know that he is still 'there' and can be seen and recognised by other people. It's how he knows he exists. Because while you're talking to him, he can't be invisible.

To give you an example, my son was a similar age when his sister was born in quite traumatic circumstances. Within a few weeks, his grandad and his wife had a child who was very ill and had a number of significant disabilities. For about 6 - 12 months, my 7 year old son asked me in all seriousness if he was a ghost now or invisible because his parents both disappeared into hospital with his sister and then his grandad disappeared as he and his wife became understandably consumed with their own baby and putting things into place for her. This was despite his dad and I only being away from him a for a relatively short time and other family members being brilliant in their support. But he did effectively lose a grandad who had been very involved in his life up to that point.

You say his mum isn't supportive. In reality, the whole situation has been created by the decisions the adults around him have made. His parents split up, you and his dad were in a serious enough relationship for him to have a half sibling at 5, he's been living between two houses, there are parenting issues at home with the older siblings and his relationships and there is talk of isolating him further within the family (keeping him away from the toddler). I'm not saying this to blame anyone but there is responsibility on all parts for this situation and in terms of resolving it.

If you approached it with his mum in a way that meant she felt included and where the focus was on supporting the child rather than blame on the adults, do you think she is likely to be less defensive about her little boy being criticised? Would she be more likely to engage?

What have school noticed? What can his school offer in terms of pastoral support? Have his parents had a meeting with school so that everyone understands what is happening for this little boy? What have they said?

Nearly50omg · 11/05/2026 10:57

Why haven’t you and his father sorted out psychiatric referral for him by now?!! He’s 7!!! What happens when he’s 17 and he’s doing the same thing but worse as you’ve written it off as “play” and other crap?