So what can in practical terms fully halt illegal immigration?

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Reform has won by a landslide .... immigration is probably by the look of it the biggest issue. What can realistically without breaking laws be done to really halt this with a big impact ? What would Farage actually do ? Would and should we as a country break some laws to get this done and speak to what people really feel is an issue ? (Many countries do). This is not in labour's dna so I doubt anything will come if it now ... but if you've thought about it or you have solutions what are they ?
And if you are opposed- why and what's the answer ?

Also many want to go to the UK as they have friends, cousins etc here

I do wish these immigrants that the UK is not the land of milk, honey and dreams.

You seem a bit confused. You said this man came here to escape the death penalty. He didn’t, he claimed to have applied for asylum to avoid a ‘lengthy jail sentence’ according to the first article you posted. His defence team said this was actually not his conviction but his brother’s. In any case, escaping a sentence for murder does not make someone eligible for asylum, so had he made that claim it would have been rejected, and even if he claimed on other grounds it’s likely he would have been rejected because of the seriousness of the conviction.

This case is not an example of a person coming to the UK to escape the death penalty for rape, and/or because the UK is ‘lenient’ on rape.

I’ve seen videos and news articles of people saying they regret it as it’s not the paradise they thought it would be.

yawn.
Believe me you are a world away from being all knowing.

I have friends in Algeria. I don’t want to live there.

So a country without freedom of religion. I don’t want that for my country.

Putting them in where?

I’d assume without checking that costs in Australia would be lower as they’re farther away from other countries.

Er…I’m agreeing with you!

Sorry - thought you were being sarcastic.
Totally my fault.
I have lived in Tehran and been spat at by men in the streets. I worry about all those Iranians coming in on boats.

You and I are singing from the same hymn sheet, I should have chosen a different emoji!

Now that reform have control in Newcastle-under-Lyme they can easily stop boats full of immigrants sailing up the Mersey and down the Trent & Mersey Canal. Job done.

Agree as well.

I have visited Tehran - about nine years ago now - and didn’t have this experience at all. It sounds horrible, but what were the circumstances? My dentist here is Iranian, my ex husband was half Iranian and most Persian/Iranian people in know here and in Canada (only a handful I should say) are abundantly polite and respectful, I’ve always found it to be a beautiful culture.

You’ll soon have people come on here and tell you they’re regularly spat at by British men in the streets, and men from the third world are no different to the men here.

They have no idea. Yes we have bad men here but that doesn’t mean we should minimise how women are treated in some cultures in the world.

Why would it end boat crossings?

When people get a no through the paper shuffling route they eould just take the boat surely?

Ugh that’s awful.

In that case they would be immediately deported as their claim had already been processed and rejected.

But it probably won’t be rejected. Let’s be realistic, most claims seem to be approved and those that are rejected tend to be Albanians.

Those pesky disabled people not working beyond their capabilities eh?🙄

In my life I have never been spat at by a British man. I have never been flogged. I have never been a slave to a man. This is normal practice in many of these countries.

More like their benefits are cut if they work more than 16 hours!

@Allseeingallknowing
What is the reason?
Please explain.

I already have, but I acknowledge some find working more than 16 hours debilitating . Most would not want to risk losing benefits

We have pupils in our school from Tehran. Girls.
They are amazing. But the stories they tell from their homeland are shocking. Did you live there?

In France they aren't given homes