So what can in practical terms fully halt illegal immigration?

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Reform has won by a landslide .... immigration is probably by the look of it the biggest issue. What can realistically without breaking laws be done to really halt this with a big impact ? What would Farage actually do ? Would and should we as a country break some laws to get this done and speak to what people really feel is an issue ? (Many countries do). This is not in labour's dna so I doubt anything will come if it now ... but if you've thought about it or you have solutions what are they ?
And if you are opposed- why and what's the answer ?

What does that remind me of? Yes, "Germany for the Germans" ("Deutschland den Deutschen") "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer"... Both well known slogans born in the last century. It's been a staple of ethnocentric thinking in Central Europe but never a British tradition.

Yes and so they throw away their passport.
But then they can’t claim asylum. Then they can’t bring their family over. And when do we stop? When we have how many million? What if 10 million want to come here? Because that is a realistic point. Even if it’s valid, the conversations need to be had. Do we keep raising taxes until we are done and every single person can take no more. I may not be right, but when we lived in West Africa, every single young man wanted to come to the UK.

Have you visited many families in this accommodation?

I have

Last family I worked with had water dripping through the light fitting in a house that would not have been able to be let on the open market.

So yes, thats 4 people, 2 adults and 2 kids they had, no housing costs, no bills, no council tax. 200 quid a week to pay for food, travel, clothes, toiletries, cleaning stuff, haircuts etc

Education is free obviously, so is health care.

Objectively, this entire post is utter bollocks.

Why would the entire family be unemployed? The majority of pip claimants are working.

Child benefit accounts for about 4% of tha total bill and pension about 40%.

I agree! And I apply the same to the businesses whose staff need state benefits to top up meagre wages.

No it doesn't because you didn't live in that time. I've never heard that phase so apologies if there is some Nazi thing but I'm not aware.

Australia says you assimilate and become Aussie or else get out. Japan, doesn't want you. This is what I've heard so not just Poland.

Yet you want to invite a load of people that a different and completely different culture to your country and expect it to all get along.

By the way a girl in Spain had her throat slit yesterday by a visitor..... Jews attacked in the UK... When are you going to realise that we need something done? The streets are not safe . And that's not all people who move in here and that's also local people who are causing issues as well.

It's absolutely terrifying.

I think Britain has lost its identity therefore anyghing goes.

So not provided.

(I know this by the way, my work includes working with asylum seeking families)

Because they care for children? More beneficial.

A disabled child won't be working. My point is that the parents are taking much more then they are generating. It's now more state benefits paid out than received in income tax.

So that’s the NHS closing down now then. Should be fine sounds like a luxury anyway.

Education and heath care are anything but free.

Who do you think pays for that?

Wheres the post?

To the client. Im saying they dont have to pay for that

Obviously.

So not net contributors to the economy. Neither are the asylum seekers or many migrants. So we're just adding and adding to the problem of non net contributors.

All care systems also and schools.

It’s free to them, but we all pay for it.

And it increases the pressure on the services.

Because they don’t have to. And How is that fair on the closest countries? they DO take the majority as it is.

selfish as fuck this country. It disgusts me.

Our youth unemployment rate is climbing. Why can't our young people do the jobs that we need? Don't give them a choice.

I just love the assumption that all immigrants are scrounging off the system don’t work and don’t pay tax.

So, just to bust some myths. I immigrated here (legally). Haven't taken one benefit in my life. Not one penny but yes I do use medical
services etc but I pay the highest amount of tax possible.

I wasn’t allowed to claim for anything. I had to show how I could financially support myself for two years. Couldn’t have a council house if I wanted one. Would have been denied and made to leave. No UC even if I needed it.

The real problem in all of this is the wait time to process people and their claims not that they are claiming.

Not every immigrant coats the country money. In fact, I have contributed far more than a lot of British born people over my working life and didn’t go to school here so didn't cost the state for that either.

The ignorance and discrimination is astounding. Or am I just the right kind of immigrant?!?!

They dont throw away their passport, Ive worked with hardly any asylum seekers who dont have any documents, its fairly rare becuase it would prevent the seeking of asylum

What is difficult to prove is what country someone came from to seek asylum from. They may not be seeking asylum from their national/citizen country.

And as posters keep pointing out, you have to have agreement for someone to be returned, either to a previous country they travelled through or the country you think they are seeking asylum from.

I didnt say no one pays for it. Is there a comprehension fail here?

I was setting out what the client receives and what they get free.

They get education for their children free and NHS care free. You understand this yes?

Healthcare, elderly care and education. Yeah luxury areas of our country for sure. Good thing immigrants aren’t the answer then.

Obviously not everyone is like you. Why would they be? Some people coming here work and others don't or are involved in the whatever it's called now economy.

There are more and more people who are just thick and getting thicker by the day.

i bet none of the Deform voters knew the pledges that the party would do locally. Councils do bins, care homes, parks. Not immigration and asylum. As that is the UK government that does that.

Specifically the Home Office, As if someone wants to apply for a visa and gets rejected, the person - appellant, can try to appeal the Home Office’s rejection through a tribunal. It’s lengthy process has put off people applying for a visa

Anyone who reads the Daily Mail should automatically lose their right to vote.