So what can in practical terms fully halt illegal immigration?

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Reform has won by a landslide .... immigration is probably by the look of it the biggest issue. What can realistically without breaking laws be done to really halt this with a big impact ? What would Farage actually do ? Would and should we as a country break some laws to get this done and speak to what people really feel is an issue ? (Many countries do). This is not in labour's dna so I doubt anything will come if it now ... but if you've thought about it or you have solutions what are they ?
And if you are opposed- why and what's the answer ?

Legal immigrants might already have them, but UK citizens do not which means that someone not having one isn't necessarily illegal. If everyone in the UK legally had one, it would be easy to spot the illegal ones!

We did it covertly by funding and arming proxies because we didn’t want it to go communist.

They'll work to the terms of reference and the remit they have.

We oversee their part of border control in terms of people leaving their shores but we pay handsomely for it. And its not foolproof, you can see that by the numbers arriving.

We take in far fewer than our fair share by any quota you can think of.

So rising crime and disease in the country then

Do you know how many people arrive with TB and latent TB? (amongst other things)

So when they’re sick, what happens? We’re already letting people off paying who come on holiday from other countries and have ops and babies here, so can’t really do that. While you’re waiting for them to contribute through working, who is going to accommodate them?
Detention centres while processing, basic medical and dental care, for which the applicant will have an amount deducted when they’re allowed to work if granted asylum. No cousins, aunts uncles allowed to come over and join them.

I'm not sure it's so much a misunderstanding, rather politicians such as Ed Davey have been pushing a disingenuous narrative on this topic.

But the accommodation and healthcare are still a problem and financial burden, no matter how much anyone tries to minimise them. What do you suggest we do?

Germany and Denmark as well as Australia are all much more successful than the U.K. It is perfectly possible to control illegal entry humanely and within the law and international agreements when the political will is there.

The real anger, IMO, is not so much at the illegal migrants themselves, it is more anger at the attitude of the political establishment who seem to be pretending that it isn't a problem, it isn't costing huge amounts of money that could be spent on other things, and that anyone who complains about the situation is a bigoted racist who must be silenced.

If we cannot deport foreigners who commit crimes, and then end up paying for them to be able to stay here, then people are not going to be happy. They are going to be even more unhappy when they themselves are struggling to meet their own CoL.

Asylum status and ILR should be reviewed regularly and revoked where appropriate. It's far too easy to get citizenship here, if migrants cannot support themselves and their families it should be granted in only the most exceptional of circumstances. These are measures that have been introduced in Denmark and have had positive results.

We fix our accommodation and healthcare systems.

Doable

But no political will for it. And the public dont care either.

Yep and just because it was on I went to listen to a very well known BBC news journo speak on various things and who repeated the same lines as are on here. No wonder people repeat misinformation. It’s dire.

This! Include the other emerging trends such as Deliveroo, care homes and illegal Gangmasters and the criminal controls and you’d start to get somewhere but it’s larger than any agency can deal with.

Because of language. Connections. Opportunities.

If you and your family were at threat of torture or death due to some personal feature, what would you do?

Australia doesn't let in boat people

Yes politicians too and some of the media.

And yet so many of them need translators as they can’t speak English.

’opportunities’ is not a reason for asylum, that makes someone an economic migrant.

What comfy life and free benefits would that be? If you are applying for a legal right to remain you don’t have any access to benefits and have to show that you can financially support yourself for two years. You cannot claim benefits.

People claiming asylum get basic benefits while they are processed. So what comfy benefits and free benefits exist then?

Er no. Asylum seekers do get money..somewhere to live, fed, money and then when their asylum is processed they get all the same benefits as everyone else.

Accommodation, utility bills, food all paid for. Usually they get clothes and phones and all basic needs are taken care of. Plus a small allowance for anything extra. I would call that a benefit, wouldn’t you?

What else do you want to give to classify it as a comfy benefit, a car allowance?

Yes I said the basic benefits which is often a hotel and like £7 per week. Hardly the life of Riley.

And if they claim to be children it's even better

You’re interpreting benefits as state benefit handouts. See recent posts of free accommodation, hearing, food, medical treatment, taxis, legal aid.

Whet would that cost your standard British Citizen?

Us friggin muggins are paying for all of this!!

Many ordinary people would like to have their accommodation, utility bills and food all inclusive.

A shared hotel and like £7 a week. Yeah hotels do have water and heating so these are covered. Not a comfy life to most people.

They aren’t taking council houses (not allowed) not are being in the process of immigrating (not allowed).

You mean free accommodation, heating, food and the rest. Where can I claim mine? Anyone?