To think the main Mumsnet demographic are out of touch politically

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Reform.are smashing the polls yet any Reform voter is despised and ridiculed on here.

The nature of these elections means that lots of councils can't be won by Reform because there aren't enough seats up for grabs to win a majority. This is a crazy system really because it obviously forces a lot of Councils into a position of no overall control even though it's obvious that if all seats were available then they would be won by a party. No overall control is arguably the worse of all outcomes.

You need to look at the number of Councillors each party is winning or losing to understand what is really going on.

That’s no surprise. Westminster has almost always been Tory in my lifetime.

I agree with that, except it's not 60% of the population but 60% of the turnout which, based on a 40% turnout shows that approximately 89% of the total electorate have not opted to vote for Reform. That puts the op's claim that non Reform voters are all out of touch somewhat into question!

As sure as night follows day they'll fuck up
Which is a good thing I'd rather they're shown for incompetence at local level rather than National level.

People feel very strongly about Reform. I would guess
that many Reform supporters keep quiet because they know they will get a pile on.

LB Westminster has historically been a conservative council for decades. The short Labour interim was just an aberration. It's returned to what it always was

I would like to point out that being desperate to flee from your war-torn country does not imply that you will not be importing attitudes that increase rape culture in the UK.

Not really since looking at mn you’d think Labour would do well, they haven’t. All the posts on percentages apply to Labour but even more so.

The op makes a valid point.

I bet you don't even see the bigotry in your own post do you?

I cannot stand this fanatical, American style politics, of just throwing around insults rather than debating and listening to others views. Its so childish and only benefits politicians.

I think we can assume both of these are true at once. There are loud voices shouting from both extremes, on MN and IRL.

I think the 'shy' voters are the ones considering voting Tory now. We'll see what happens over the next 2-3 years.

I would describe myself as centre right and in a general election would probably vote Conservative. I live in Wales and yesterday voted Reform for the first time, purely to stop Plaid having an overall majority. I'm impressed by Kemi Badenoch and have high hopes for her at next general election.

The largest minority though.

And I don't know if I agree with the OP's premise, but nothing they said demonstrated a lack of understanding of the electoral system IMO.

I detest Reform but can see why people are voting for them, anyone not up Labours arse gets lumped together, shot down and labelled far right and they are sick and tired of it. Those responsible for this are now reaping what they sowed. But it will still be someone else's fault.

Do enlighten us with your “experience” with this??
Im assuming you must be a political analyst of some sort 😂

Agree

I didn't say they had a lack of understanding

It’s not just the economic side of high immigration though it’s the watering down of our culture, it’s being made to feel like a foreigner in your own country, it’s people experiences of being heckled by migrants, the intimidation they feel when large groups of them hang around, it’s the fact they don’t feel their children are safe.

imagine sending your kid to school and then coming home saying no one spoke English in one of their classes (or they did but chose only to communicate to each other in a language other than English.

it’s people’s real experiences like this, not economics which drive many people to question immigration

ouch? I think it's more they need life support

Ha true.

Indeed. Labour just couldn't Hold it. Of course they couldnt..

And yet yesterday we had a poster expressing the view, which was agreed with by others, that Reform voters shouldn't be allowed a vote.

I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

I don't believe you're posting in good faith at all so I'd just like to say that MrsBennets posts are informed and interesting, unlike your own.

I can understand different perspectives but that is not the issue here. It is about having non negotiable boundaries and values that mean I don't listen to or vote for people who are racists/xenophobic/pretend to be a "man of the people" while getting funded by shady billionaires.

But then Labour won it. And now of course, rather than holding it, they've only gone and Lost it again. Who knew they'd be so tragic? Well, most people now at least.

This is what the op means. That she’s ‘not posting in good faith’.