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Was I U to tell a doctor she’ll understand when she’s a mum?

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Calmondeck · 06/05/2026 21:28

I usually hate when people say things like “you’ll only understand when…”, “you don’t know because you’ve never…” etc etc

But today I found myself telling a newly graduated doctor that she won’t understand until she’s a mother.

For context, a neighbour (aged 4) had a huge crash on their bike. Their helmet was dented from the impact and they had blood gushing from their forehead. There were no other adults around, just myself and my children, I attended to the child until his mother found him. At this point the child and I were covered in so much blood that both our shirts were soaked.

By coincidence the mother had a friend present, a newly graduated doctor, who told us proudly that she’s so used to seeing screaming children and overly anxious parents that she’s immune to it. She just walks into anxious rooms and “ignores the vibe”.

There was a pause, and I found myself saying she’ll understand if she ever becomes a mother.

She didn’t say anything in reply.

This has got under my skin. My child fought cancer for several years at an age where his doctors really relied on my husband and I to interpret his pain, translate toddler speak, spot symptoms etc. The team told us on day 1 of the diagnosis that no one knows the child better than the parents (they actually said mother but I chose to ignore this slightly patriarchal view) and they needed us to be vocal. My husband and I, who are pretty relaxed, originally thought “we’ll trust the professionals (ie the doctors)” but realised quickly that we really did need to point out things.

I see this neighbour almost daily, and will run into her doctor friend undoubtedly over the coming days (she is staying with them). Would it be unreasonable to tell her she needs to stop being immune to upset kids and their appropriately concerned parents?

OP posts:
Ladyzfactor · 08/05/2026 10:01

Redpaisley · 07/05/2026 20:52

I think the parents assume that they become better humans after they had kids. Reality is with time and experience most humans develop more humility and empathy.

Some of the kindest, most selfless humans i have meet have been child free, and some of the most selfish have had children. I've noticed that a lot of people that were selfish and self absorbed before kids stay that way after having kids, they just use their children as an excuse for their behavior. They're not being awful, they're just being momma bears.

Snakebite61 · 08/05/2026 10:38

Calmondeck · 06/05/2026 21:28

I usually hate when people say things like “you’ll only understand when…”, “you don’t know because you’ve never…” etc etc

But today I found myself telling a newly graduated doctor that she won’t understand until she’s a mother.

For context, a neighbour (aged 4) had a huge crash on their bike. Their helmet was dented from the impact and they had blood gushing from their forehead. There were no other adults around, just myself and my children, I attended to the child until his mother found him. At this point the child and I were covered in so much blood that both our shirts were soaked.

By coincidence the mother had a friend present, a newly graduated doctor, who told us proudly that she’s so used to seeing screaming children and overly anxious parents that she’s immune to it. She just walks into anxious rooms and “ignores the vibe”.

There was a pause, and I found myself saying she’ll understand if she ever becomes a mother.

She didn’t say anything in reply.

This has got under my skin. My child fought cancer for several years at an age where his doctors really relied on my husband and I to interpret his pain, translate toddler speak, spot symptoms etc. The team told us on day 1 of the diagnosis that no one knows the child better than the parents (they actually said mother but I chose to ignore this slightly patriarchal view) and they needed us to be vocal. My husband and I, who are pretty relaxed, originally thought “we’ll trust the professionals (ie the doctors)” but realised quickly that we really did need to point out things.

I see this neighbour almost daily, and will run into her doctor friend undoubtedly over the coming days (she is staying with them). Would it be unreasonable to tell her she needs to stop being immune to upset kids and their appropriately concerned parents?

They have to keep emotion out of it. They have a job to do. You were out of order.

YourShyLion · 08/05/2026 10:44

Ridiculous, insensitive and insulting thing to say and given your hyperbole in your post, I'd say that she definitely had a point.

You want a medical professional to ignore the hysteria as she obviously did here. It's completely unhelpful for them being as unnecessarily emotional as others. If you note she obviously picks up on the vibe so she's not unaware, she just knows it's completely unhelpful to feed into it when aiding the patient.

nomas · 08/05/2026 11:41

Carandache18 · 07/05/2026 19:25

At least she had the grace not to reply that you would understand better when you were a doctor.

Indeed.

janj52301 · 24/05/2026 20:23

I have a female GP friend, she fully admitted she was hopeless with pregnant women until she had her own children and was much more empathetic after that

Mintytp · 24/05/2026 20:31

janj52301 · 24/05/2026 20:23

I have a female GP friend, she fully admitted she was hopeless with pregnant women until she had her own children and was much more empathetic after that

Is she hopeless with other demographics then? Old people? Men? People with any type of medical issue she’s never experienced?

Elsvieta · 24/05/2026 20:33

She'll understand what? That bleeding kids and parents of bleeding kids are distressed? She knows already.

Anyone who's seeing a doctor is a bit anxious about something. There's degrees of it, obviously, but nobody's having a great time. Doctors know this. Personally the last thing I want is a doctor who seems panicked. I want a vibe of "this is fixable, I'm going to sort it and you're going to be totally fine". The more seriously ill / injured I am, the more true this is.

She has people she loves. She's seen them ill, in pain, scared, maybe dying. She knows how scary it is. She's been on the other end. There's nothing else she needs to understand.

janj52301 · 24/05/2026 21:46

Mintytp · 24/05/2026 20:31

Is she hopeless with other demographics then? Old people? Men? People with any type of medical issue she’s never experienced?

no just pregnant women complaining of morning sickness very niche!!

Mintytp · 24/05/2026 21:53

janj52301 · 24/05/2026 21:46

no just pregnant women complaining of morning sickness very niche!!

Why though? Why did she have such a mental block regarding empathy for just pregnant women? Seems very odd. That someone would be perfectly able to empathise with every other condition that could make you feel sick or unwell but just not morning sickness.

Confuserr · 25/05/2026 01:16

janj52301 · 24/05/2026 20:23

I have a female GP friend, she fully admitted she was hopeless with pregnant women until she had her own children and was much more empathetic after that

Sounds like your friend was (probably still is) a bit of a shit doctor

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