To start to think reform will be voted in next time, and they will be running the country

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I’ve been a life long labour voter, but I’m starting to think reform will be elected next time
mainly just due to so many criminals that want to harm us being allowed in and allowed to stay
and uncontrolled immigration

I think they are going to win it on this reason alone
every single day there’s a news story usually more than one someone’s been raped by one of these criminals one the other day even said he didn’t understand what rape is and he thought rape was just sex

what do you all think ?
Will reform be running the country soon ?
if they are are the capable of running things in other areas ?
if they take over how do you see that actually panning out ?

I thought that at first. But changed my mind on reading the last part. I have never known a Reform supporter want to open a discussion to explore Reforms capability in other areas and consider the consequences in all areas of a Reform government. Any straying into these unchartered waters is typically swiftly intercepted, and we are firmly guided back to the crimes of immigrants, and told if we support any other party we don't care about their victims.

I’d never consider voting for either Labour or Reform but again, just for a giggle:

Labour vs Reform impact for Example Household:

• £80k joint income
• Renting
• 2 kids in state school
• Uses NHS
• Receiving child benefit

🧾 1) Income & tax
Labour

• Has committed (so far) to:
• No income tax rises for basic earners
• No NI rise for employees
• May tweak thresholds or stealth taxes, but nothing dramatic

👉 Likely outcome:

• Roughly similar take-home pay
• Maybe slightly squeezed over time (inflation, thresholds)

Reform

• Lower income tax across the board

👉 Likely outcome:

• £300–£1,000/year better off

👉 Winner: Reform (on pure take-home pay)
But this is only one piece of the puzzle…

👶 2) Child benefit & family support
Labour

• Strong emphasis on:
• Protecting child benefit
• Expanding childcare support
• Keeping or extending free school meal access

👉 Outcome:

• Stable or improved support

Reform

• Focus on cutting welfare spending overall
• Less clarity on protecting child-specific benefits

👉 Outcome:

• Uncertain → possible reduction or tightening

👉 Winner: Labour (more security for families)

🏥 3) Healthcare (this is huge)
Labour

• Major focus on rebuilding the National Health Service
• More funding, staff, reduced waiting lists

👉 For this family:

• Direct, meaningful improvement in daily life

Reform

• Push toward:
• Private healthcare incentives
• Less clear NHS funding growth

👉 For this family:

• Still reliant on NHS
• Risk of:
• Longer waits
• Reduced access

👉 Winner: Labour (by a mile here)

🏫 4) Schools
Labour

• Focus on:
• More teachers
• Breakfast clubs
• Investment in state schools

👉 Outcome:

• Better or more supported school environment

Reform

• Less emphasis on increasing funding
• Possible pressure if overall spending is reduced

👉 Outcome:

• Uncertain → possible decline in resources

👉 Winner: Labour

🏡 5) Renting & housing
Labour

• Policies aimed at renters:
• Renters’ reform (more rights, stability)
• Housebuilding targets
• Ending no-fault evictions

👉 Outcome:

• More stability, potentially better conditions

Reform

• Focus more on:
• Homeownership
• Tax cuts

👉 Outcome:

• Less direct help for renters

👉 Winner: Labour

🔌 6) Cost of living
Labour

• Targeted help:
• Energy transition (long-term savings)
• Some targeted cost-of-living support

👉 Outcome:

• Moderate, gradual improvement

Reform

• Immediate relief:
• Scrapping VAT on energy

👉 Outcome:

• Short-term noticeable savings

Personally at the next General Election I plan to vote for whichever candidate is most likely to keep Reform out (subject to not voting for a candidate who is as right wing or even more right wing than the Reform candidate). Which party that is will vary by constituency, and our first past the post system means it's sometimes not obvious, but I'll do my best to identify which candidate is most likely to keep Reform out in the constituency where I live.

Did you prompt ChatGPT to produce this from the point of view of an idiot?

It will help if Reform do well at these elections. Let them try and make the difference they claim they can, then the voter will see and feel the repercussions.

Locally, Reform leader of the council makes wild claims about ‘saving billions’ 😂(if only the council budget was that much) …, another is always on the news for fraud and ripping off customers. Bring it on.
In another LA, a 19 year old was the elected member for Children’s Services, holding to account the Director of CYPS, for education outcomes, early years and safeguarding of the most vulnerable children and young people in the locality … in public meetings and in council overview and scrutiny.
I could about manage that councillor role now , with my 30 years+ in education and inclusion. I would not have had a clue at 19!

Be ready for benefit cuts, loosening of workers rights and Farage to make his millions and move to France ( when due to Brexit, the rest of us can’t.).

When the GE comes Reform will not be voted in given the mess they will have created.

Policies aimed at renters are no good when landlords are selling up. I know 2 people who are now homeless because of it, and we are likely to be soon too. There is literally nothing to rent. The odd property that comes up is out of our price range and snapped up straight away

The policies aren’t aimed at renters, they’re aimed at evil Landlords who commit the heinous crime of renting out a flat. Every labour policy is aimed at hurting a particular group who they don’t like; farmers, independent school children, higher earners, business owners, private pension savers, people with private sector jobs . The fact that it messes up everything else is really not as important as hurting these groups. People like this shouldn’t be anywhere near power.

All parties have mucked it up. I can’t get stressed about it. Life will do as it does.

Nope. Reform couldn’t run a bath.

Locally loads of ex rentals for sale, prices really great, owners accepting offers lower than market value.
More people able to buy - bit of TLC - the houses are great. Increases security and own decisions.

Providing they have a deposit and get accepted for a mortgage.

I’m sure many people renting will buy if they can, but it’s not that simple as lets buy a house because the price is good.

I don’t think the greens are mad. I think other parties have tried their best by gaslighting us about the greens and now find themselves at the gaslighters last weapon - saying their victim is just mad to discredit them.

Yes, it would be a good time to be a first time buyer with no chain. Bad to be a renter, landlord or somebody trying to sell as part of a chain.

I agree, but OP’s question was do we think it will happen. On this trajectory, yes it will happen.

Unfortunately, we're stuck with the latter, although I'd like to see proper jail sentences.
We shouldn't be stuck with the former though - as an immigrant, behaviour should be impeccable or out you go.

Surely workers rights have a problem if they aren’t competitive and benefits need sorting big time by whoever gets in!

If Reform do well in local
elections they’ll absolutely mess it all up totally before the next GE so they won’t have a chance.

I think it's pretty much widely accepted, even by people who would never admit it openly, like most Labour voters, that Reform are a certainty for the next general election, yes. Whether it's a majority or a coalition remains to be seen, but they are going to be in government one way or another.

’A good time to be a FTB with no chain’.

Are you quite certain about that? At a point in the cycle when we have falling asset values, firming monetary policy, rising unemployment, and Labour’s damaging fiscal policy.

In terms of the new landlord tax and legislation, it’s the one group I could think of who might possibly benefit. Agreed otherwise it’s a really bad time for everyone.

Well who are on the watch list?

According to Oxford University's Migration Observatory study published in 2025, "Overall, if we control for age and sex, non-citizens were slightly less likely to be in prison than UK citizens"

Yes, absolutely - for the lowest common dominator in regard to intelligence just to be fully inclusive for all voters in this country. Originally the analysis I was given back would’ve been too tough for many to understand. Hope that helps. Oh and you didn’t actually think I’d be spending time on this without AI did you, it doesn’t mean it’s not a good guide

To the person above listing Reform - “Stop the Boats” and most of that list aren’t policies. They’re broad, nebulous aims, that many people of all political complexions would probably agree with Nothing on that list tells us voters what Reform are going to actually DO to achieve those aims.

What are their policies for stopping the boats? Gunboats in the channel? Action against the gangs? Opening safe routes to claim asylum? What???

The way Reform talk about it, there’s a switch they can flick to stop them overnight.

It's a matter of degree-isn't that obvious.

If the numbers show one less arriving on a boat then it can be honestly said that numbers are down. if that one person chose to make use of the highly popular lorry route instead of a boat, then it can still be honestly said that the number of those arriving by small boat are down.

There will always be those though, like your good self @TopPocketFind, that will just never think to question the statement that boat crossings are down. They say as you have done : Down is Down..." How else would you define down?"

This bunch of weasels rely on simple minded folk to do so and, as you have demonstrated so ably, it works!